Chicago releases video of shooting
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This is an unfortunate incident. In hindsight the kid wasn't a threat to the officer. But given today's climate on the street, the police are uber vigilant. At least the outcome wasn't fatal. I'm not sure how to fix this issue so that cops get to go home to their families at the end of their shifts and their guns are discharged as a last resort.
For every example as the OP, there are just as many where the police hesitate to use deadly force and it ends up in tragedy for the police. Just as there are multiple incidents where the police were a bit trigger happy. I'm reminded of the video where a community agitator(like obama was) participating in hands on police training scenarios. Typical stuff that police run into on a daily basis. In all the scenarios the dude ends up making the incorrect calls. He hesitates when he should be aggressive and is too aggressive when he doesn't need to be. At least in the end he admits that when you have split seconds to make a decision, it's not as easy as it appears in hindsight.
For every example as the OP, there are just as many where the police hesitate to use deadly force and it ends up in tragedy for the police. Just as there are multiple incidents where the police were a bit trigger happy. I'm reminded of the video where a community agitator(like obama was) participating in hands on police training scenarios. Typical stuff that police run into on a daily basis. In all the scenarios the dude ends up making the incorrect calls. He hesitates when he should be aggressive and is too aggressive when he doesn't need to be. At least in the end he admits that when you have split seconds to make a decision, it's not as easy as it appears in hindsight.
Do you have a link?
Chris0nllyn
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Where does it say the trooper "hesitat[ed] to use deadly force"?
Put simply, if he'd been quicker on the trigger, the role of dead-guy would have been reversed.
I wanna go home to my family ... Troops in combat zones, have stricter Rules of Engagement
Chris0nllyn
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He was shot approaching a car and surprised. How did he hesistate to use force?
Did he shoot upon approach?
Chris0nllyn
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Who? The cop or the perp?
Who were we discussing?
black dog
Free America
Yep..... One would think the same or stricter rules would apply at home with our own citizens.
Chris0nllyn
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I don't understand why it's so hard to answer a simple question. No one can read your mind, so you'll have to include some details in your posts, as tough as that may be.
I'm not interested in 15 pages of word games. I get what Monello was saying, but your link by no means backs up his claim.
Chris0nllyn
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Why? Citizens don't care about it and as long as "it's how I was trained",or "I feared for my life", or "in this day and age" is a reasonable justification for shooting an unarmed person you followed around, nothign will change.
black dog
Free America
Why? We have rules of engagement while overseas... LEO in my opinion should have rules of engagement here at home.. Even more so when a citizen isn't armed.
Based on the "hesitat[ed]" reference it looks like you are interested in just that.
In either case, we were discussing the "cop" not whatever mystery person you are dreaming about now.
They should but they don't. How do we get the multitude of Federal, State, and Local LE agencies to adopt a set of ROE nationwide?
Chris0nllyn
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And we don't have that here. We have union-protected LEOs hiding behind "training" and "fear". Something oridinary citizens are not afforded.
This idea (not by you), that the "times" are bad to be a cop is laughable. The idea that their perceived fear somehow trumps the rights of American citizens to go about their business, not breaking any laws, is also laughable.
But what do you do when we, the people, allow it? We're told that being a police officer is a dangerous, thankless, job and any criticism of their actions is met with "well, it could have been worse". We hold certain peers to a higher standard/class of people and training has caused a greater divide between the people and police. You don't change the mindsets of millions of people overnight, and apparently not when cops #### up either.