Ivanka Trump used personal email for White House business

[Bushy23]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46271021

 

[Sapidus]

"Speaking later on "New Day," former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci made a similar point.
"Well, certainly I think it's hypocritical. I think even Ivanka, if she was interviewed about, she'd have to say it was a mistake. You can't do that in that position," Scaramucci told Camerota.
"There had to be a reason why she was doing that. The same thing I would say about Secretary Clinton," he added. "I think it's a serious matter. I'm not making light of it."
Ivanka Trump used personal account for emails about government business
Ivanka Trump used personal account for emails about government business
On Monday, The Washington Post reported the White House conducted an investigation into Trump's email usage and that she used her personal email address for much of 2017."


Cue the chants of "Lock Her up" at the next Trump rally

 

[mAlice]

What's good for Hillary....

 

[This_person]

"Speaking later on "New Day," former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci made a similar point.
"Well, certainly I think it's hypocritical. I think even Ivanka, if she was interviewed about, she'd have to say it was a mistake. You can't do that in that position," Scaramucci told Camerota.
"There had to be a reason why she was doing that. The same thing I would say about Secretary Clinton," he added. "I think it's a serious matter. I'm not making light of it."
Ivanka Trump used personal account for emails about government business
Ivanka Trump used personal account for emails about government business
On Monday, The Washington Post reported the White House conducted an investigation into Trump's email usage and that she used her personal email address for much of 2017."


Cue the chants of "Lock Her up" at the next Trump rally

From the article:

Ms Trump sent the emails before she was briefed on the rules, her lawyer says.
...
How serious is this?
A Trump administration official told CBS News that Ms Trump's emails did not contain classified information, and what had occurred was basically a lack of understanding of the rules. Ms Trump stopped using her personal address for government correspondence after she was informed that she should not be doing so, the official said.

Apples and bricks - not even on the same scales with one another.

 

[Toxick]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46271021

Toxick's accurate prediction:


Democrats, for whom illicit email usage was never a big problem will suddenly realize how much of a horrible national security threat email usage really is.
Republicans, who have been chanting "Lock Her Up" for the last two years will suddenly realize that illicit email usage is not really a problem after all - or how this is not really the same thing.




Spoiler alert: This will be all CNN talks about until Christmas, and every late night talk show host has a massive gushing priapism right now.

 

[Sapidus]

From the article:



Apples and bricks - not even on the same scales with one another.

As usual you find a way to minimize and give these grifters the benefit of the doubt while doing the exact opposite to dems.


Even your own pull quotes show she used her personal email for most of 2017 which was long after she was briefed.

And you are fine with Trump using a unsecured iPhone to this day.


One more example of hypocrisy from you.

 

[This_person]

As usual you find a way to minimize and give these grifters the benefit of the doubt while doing the exact opposite to dems.


Even your own pull quotes show she used her personal email for most of 2017 which was long after she was briefed.

And you are fine with Trump using a unsecured iPhone to this day.


One more example of hypocrisy from you.

I think Ivanka should receive the proper punishment for using personal e-mail, not be given a pass.

I've never once commented on Trump using an iPhone (didn't know he used an iPhone, to be honest), so I'm not sure where you are getting my opinion on that from.


However, comparing using personal e-mail and then stopping when told to with being told NOT to up front, as the senior cabinet member, but using it anyway to send and receive Top Secret information all while your server has Chinese spying software on in and you are lying to the American people about it ("what, you mean like with a cloth?") is beyond stupid.

To recap: Invanka should receive the punishment her crime deserves and in keeping with history on such things, so should Clinton.

 

[Kyle]

"Speaking later on "New Day," former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci made a similar point.
"Well, certainly I think it's hypocritical. I think even Ivanka, if she was interviewed about, she'd have to say it was a mistake. You can't do that in that position," Scaramucci told Camerota.
"There had to be a reason why she was doing that. The same thing I would say about Secretary Clinton," he added. "I think it's a serious matter. I'm not making light of it."
Ivanka Trump used personal account for emails about government business
Ivanka Trump used personal account for emails about government business
On Monday, The Washington Post reported the White House conducted an investigation into Trump's email usage and that she used her personal email address for much of 2017."


Cue the chants of "Lock Her up" at the next Trump rally

When Hillary gets locked up first!

EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER THE LAW

 

[Rommey]

It isn't illegal as long as the personal emails are forwarded to an official email account to be preserved. I think the optics are what is wrong here, but there are significant differences between Hillary's and Ivanka's use of private email.

1. Ivanka stopped using private email once she was briefed on the rules. It's not clear if she forwarded the private emails to an official account, so that's a legitimate thing to determine. Hillary continued to use her private email even after the story broke and she never forwarded her emails to an official account. It was only after a subpoena did she turn over emails and its clear that many were not.
2. According to the White House official, she didn't send any classified information. Again, it's a legitimate thing to determine. It's been proven already that Hillary did send/receive classified emails.
3. Ivanka didn't set up a private server in her house...unlike Hillary.

if it's proven that Ivanka sent classified material over her private email, then she should be subjected to what ever the law allows.

 

[Midnightrider]

It isn't illegal as long as the personal emails are forwarded to an official email account to be preserved. I think the optics are what is wrong here, but there are significant differences between Hillary's and Ivanka's use of private email.

1. Ivanka stopped using private email once she was briefed on the rules. It's not clear if she forwarded the private emails to an official account, so that's a legitimate thing to determine. Hillary continued to use her private email even after the story broke and she never forwarded her emails to an official account. It was only after a subpoena did she turn over emails and its clear that many were not.
2. According to the White House official, she didn't send any classified information. Again, it's a legitimate thing to determine. It's been proven already that Hillary did send/receive classified emails.
3. Ivanka didn't set up a private server in her house...unlike Hillary.

if it's proven that Ivanka sent classified material over her private email, then she should be subjected to what ever the law allows.

that begs the question "what server did she use?"

 

[Sapidus]

Lock her up!!!!!

 

[This_person]

It isn't illegal as long as the personal emails are forwarded to an official email account to be preserved. I think the optics are what is wrong here, but there are significant differences between Hillary's and Ivanka's use of private email.

1. Ivanka stopped using private email once she was briefed on the rules. It's not clear if she forwarded the private emails to an official account, so that's a legitimate thing to determine. Hillary continued to use her private email even after the story broke and she never forwarded her emails to an official account. It was only after a subpoena did she turn over emails and its clear that many were not.
2. According to the White House official, she didn't send any classified information. Again, it's a legitimate thing to determine. It's been proven already that Hillary did send/receive classified emails.
3. Ivanka didn't set up a private server in her house...unlike Hillary.

if it's proven that Ivanka sent classified material over her private email, then she should be subjected to what ever the law allows.

 

[Rommey]

Even your own pull quotes show she used her personal email for most of 2017 which was long after she was briefed.

I don't think it's clear from the article when she was briefed. "Most of 2017" would be any time over 6 months, so if she wasn't briefed until August (for example) then "Most of 2017" would be before she was informed of the rules.
According to the article, "Ms Trump stopped using her personal address for government correspondence after she was informed that she should not be doing so".

 

[This_person]

that begs the question "what server did she use?"

Fair question. A private one, it seems:

That review revealed that throughout much of 2017, she often discussed or relayed official White House business using a private email account with a domain that she shares with her husband.

In a statement, Peter Mirijanian, a spokesman for [their lawyer], acknowledged that the president's daughter occasionally used her private email before she was briefed on the rules, but he said none of her messages contained classified information.
"While transitioning into government, after she was given an official account but until the White House provided her the same guidance they had given others who started before she did, Ms. Trump sometimes used her personal account, almost always for logistics and scheduling concerning her family," he said in a statement.

Mirijanian said Ivanka Trump turned over all her government-related emails months ago so they could be stored permanently with other White House records.

And he stressed that her email use was different than that of Clinton, who had a private email server in the basement of her home in Chappaqua, New York. At one point, an archive of thousands of Clinton's emails was deleted by a computer specialist amid a congressional investigation.

"Ms. Trump did not create a private server in her house or office, no classified information was ever included, the account was never transferred at Trump Organization, and no emails were ever deleted," Mirijanian said.
Like Trump, Clinton also said she was unaware of or misunderstood the rules. However, Clinton relied solely on a private email system as secretary of state, bypassing government servers entirely.

 

[Gilligan]

Lock her up!!!!!

Who..Hillary?..we certainly hope she will be.

 

[Rommey]

that begs the question "what server did she use?"

Since it's not specified, one can assume whatever company her email went through. I think it's safe to say that IF she were using a private server, the Washington Post would have had that information on the front page.

 

[Sapidus]

Fair question. A private one, it seems:

How do you infer that from this quote that mostly talks about Hillary? IS she was using gmail you are then taking her word for the content of the emails and dismissing the fact that she played fast and loose with the rules and set herself up to be hacked or have information stolen

 

[Sapidus]

Who..Hillary?..we certainly hope she will be.

But i thought two years was the arbitrary time period at which all investigations had to stop a la Mueller?

Guess Hillary is in the clear or does that only count for investigation you don't want to know the outcome of?

 

[This_person]

Since it's not specified, one can assume whatever company her email went through. I think it's safe to say that IF she were using a private server, the Washington Post would have had that information on the front page.

According to the Chicago Tribune, it was a private server - but not one set up in her house or office. Just a private service.

 

[This_person]

How do you infer that from this quote that mostly talks about Hillary?

It's called "reading comprehension".

" using a private email account with a domain that she shares with her husband."

IS she was using gmail you are then taking her word for the content of the emails and dismissing the fact that she played fast and loose with the rules and set herself up to be hacked or have information stolen

I actually said she should be punished in accordance with the policies and laws set forth based on the severity of her indiscretion. As should Hillary Clinton.

However, since gmail isn't a private domain Ivanka shares with her husband, we can rule that one out.