US DOJ NY prosecutors Trump commited two felonies

[Sapidus]

“The filing by New York prosecutors does not explicitly name Trump, but rather refers to an "Individual-1" that it says Cohen "acted in coordination with and at the direction of" in steering payments to silence Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, the women claiming they had affairs with Trump before the 2016 election.

The document notes that Cohen worked for "Individual-1" as a personal attorney after the person "had become the President of the United States" and previously worked for the person when they "began an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States."

"In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1," the document states.“



https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...en-filling-means-trump-committed-two-felonies

 

[Midnightrider]

“The filing by New York prosecutors does not explicitly name Trump, but rather refers to an "Individual-1" that it says Cohen "acted in coordination with and at the direction of" in steering payments to silence Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, the women claiming they had affairs with Trump before the 2016 election.

The document notes that Cohen worked for "Individual-1" as a personal attorney after the person "had become the President of the United States" and previously worked for the person when they "began an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States."

"In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1," the document states.“



https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...en-filling-means-trump-committed-two-felonies

That could be anybody

 

[Sapidus]

That could be anybody

“I never knew him”. He was basically a coffee boy”

 

[Gilligan]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/us/politics/trump-cohen-payment-legal-issues.html

Recent history suggests that it can be tricky to prove that the motive behind such a payment was political rather than personal. In 2012, the Justice Department prosecuted John Edwards, the former Democratic senator from North Carolina, over payments from wealthy donors that were used to hide his pregnant mistress while he ran for president. Mr. Edwards’s lawyers argued that he was instead trying to hide the affair from his wife.

 

[Sapidus]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/us/politics/trump-cohen-payment-legal-issues.html

Having the tapes makes it much less so which unless you’ve lived under a rock for her last two years you would know Cohen was smart enough to do on many occasions

 

[Gilligan]

Having the tapes makes it much less so which unless you’ve lived under a rock for her last two years you would know Cohen was smart enough to do on many occasions

Recent history suggests that it can be tricky to prove that the motive behind such a payment was political rather than personal. In 2012, the Justice Department prosecuted John Edwards, the former Democratic senator from North Carolina, over payments from wealthy donors that were used to hide his pregnant mistress while he ran for president. Mr. Edwards’s lawyers argued that he was instead trying to hide the affair from his wife.

 

[vraiblonde]

Good luck with that.

 

[Midnightrider]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/us/politics/trump-cohen-payment-legal-issues.html

So you are saying, like Edwards, he is guilty it’s just going to be hard to convict him? :sad:

 

[Gilligan]

So you are saying, like Edwards, he is guilty it’s just going to be hard to convict him? :sad:

This.

Recent history suggests that it can be tricky to prove that the motive behind such a payment was political rather than personal. In 2012, the Justice Department prosecuted John Edwards, the former Democratic senator from North Carolina, over payments from wealthy donors that were used to hide his pregnant mistress while he ran for president. Mr. Edwards’s lawyers argued that he was instead trying to hide the affair from his wife.

 

[Sapidus]

Good luck with that.

Doesn’t seem Mueller needs luck. He’s got the truth in his side and is doing a bang up job with more to come

 

[Sapidus]

This.

Except in this case it won’t be hard to prove Melania knew what she was getting InTo based on his past

 

[vraiblonde]

This.

John Edwards used campaign money to set up his girlfriend. Trump used his own money. There's the enormous difference and why the zombots are in for a huge disappointment.

All Mueller has is the hope that he can get Trump to testify under oath so they can catch him in a lie. That's all they've got. But so far they don't have any compelling reason to subpoena him. That will change when the Dems take power in the House in January - my understanding is that they don't really need a reason. Just because it's a crappy blatant partisan political tactic that has never been pulled before doesn't mean they won't do it.

Think about it: the Dems and their media minions have spent over two years hammering home the message that Trump is everything evil. They have based it on nothing, but the natives are restless and want blood, so they are going to have to throw them some meat. We're already seeing rumblings from the base - #blexit, #walkaway, etc. Nancy and Chuck and the rest of them have painted themselves into a corner and now they have to figure out how to get out of it.

 

[Midnightrider]

This.

I know, “you are right” is impossible for you to type

John Edwards used campaign money to set up his girlfriend. Trump used his own money. There's the enormous difference and why the zombots are in for a huge disappointment.

All Mueller has is the hope that he can get Trump to testify under oath so they can catch him in a lie. That's all they've got. But so far they don't have any compelling reason to subpoena him. That will change when the Dems take power in the House in January - my understanding is that they don't really need a reason. Just because it's a crappy blatant partisan political tactic that has never been pulled before doesn't mean they won't do it.

Think about it: the Dems and their media minions have spent over two years hammering home the message that Trump is everything evil. They have based it on nothing, but the natives are restless and want blood, so they are going to have to throw them some meat. We're already seeing rumblings from the base - #blexit, #walkaway, etc. Nancy and Chuck and the rest of them have painted themselves into a corner and now they have to figure out how to get out of it.

Don’t you mean ‘trump is currently claiming he used his personal money’?

The first claim was that it was Cohens money, cohens idea, and trump didn’t know. :shrug:

 

[Sapidus]

John Edwards used campaign money to set up his girlfriend. Trump used his own money. There's the enormous difference and why the zombots are in for a huge disappointment.

All Mueller has is the hope that he can get Trump to testify under oath so they can catch him in a lie. That's all they've got. But so far they don't have any compelling reason to subpoena him. That will change when the Dems take power in the House in January - my understanding is that they don't really need a reason. Just because it's a crappy blatant partisan political tactic that has never been pulled before doesn't mean they won't do it.

Think about it: the Dems and their media minions have spent over two years hammering home the message that Trump is everything evil. They have based it on nothing, but the natives are restless and want blood, so they are going to have to throw them some meat. We're already seeing rumblings from the base - #blexit, #walkaway, etc. Nancy and Chuck and the rest of them have painted themselves into a corner and now they have to figure out how to get out of it.

Don’t you think the fact that he surrounds himself with criminals, has a history of cheating on his taxes has committed fraud to the tune of $25 million has paid hush money to effect the outcome of an election might be some compelling reasons? ( the last being the actual issue with the payments not where the payments came fromPer se)

You mean this two extremist groups started by Republicans?

Mueller has waited this long because Trumps sycophants in office are only too willing to sweep his misdeeds under the rug so they can keep using him as the pawn he is. Once we take back the house and they have gotten all the can the wil will dump him and say they were lied to and didn’t realize the depths of his crimes and try to save their political
Careers but for most it will be too late

 

[Gilligan]

Except in this case it won’t be hard to prove Melania knew what she was getting InTo based on his past

It won't , eh? An attorney, you are quite obviously not.

 

[Gilligan]

I know, “you are right” is impossible for you to type

It could work in Mr. Trump’s favor that he and his lawyers had a long history of using legal avenues to try to fight off damaging claims. That history could form the basis of an argument that Mr. Cohen’s payment to Ms. Clifford — and Mr. Trump’s reimbursement of it — would have happened whether or not he was running for president.

 

[GURPS]

You mean this two extremist parties started by Republicans?

Be Specific - What Extremist Parties :shrug: Like The Weathermen ?

Mueller has waited this long because Trumps sycophants in office are only too willing to sweep his misdeed under the rug

and you wonder why I call you out on your FANTASY and Innuendo

syc·o·phant
/ˈsikəˌfant,ˈsikəfənt/Submit
noun
noun: sycophant; plural noun: sycophants
a person who acts obsequiously toward someone important in order to gain advantage.
synonyms: yes-man, bootlicker, brown-noser, toady, lickspittle, flatterer, flunky, lackey, spaniel, doormat, stooge, cringer, suck, suck-up
"I thought you wanted a competent assistant, not a nodding sycophant"

so they can keep using him as the pawn he is.

a Sycopahnty is NOT A Person that would be USING Trump you mindless T w a t

Once we take back the house

WTF does 'taking back the house' have to do with dumping Trump or saving Political Careers

and they have gotten all the can the wil will dump him and say they were lied to and didn’t realize the depths of his crimes and

Who is THEY ?

try to save their political Careers but for most it will be too late

WT Actual F are you taking about



More of YOUR Fantasy, Supposition, Innuendo and Assumptions

 

[Sapidus]

You think egomaniac is going to submit to open court all the other women he has paid off when he wasn’t running for office?

He’s much to stupid and self obsessed to do that to the point where he would rather go to jail

 

[Gilligan]

He’s much to stupid and self obsessed to do that to the point where he would rather go to jail

Do you breathe without assistance?

How much jail time did Slick Willy serve?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

 

[vraiblonde]

I know, “you are right” is impossible for you to type

If you are ever right about something, I'll type it.

As it stands, you knee jerk on emotion - Duke lacrosse, anyone? - and present your emotional outbursts as "facts", then you demand I agree with you just because you feel SO strongly about it and want it SO bad and you're going to call me names if I don't.