seekeroftruth
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1 Chronicles 4: 24 The descendants of Simeon:
Nemuel, Jamin, Jarib, Zerah and Shaul;
25 Shallum was Shaul’s son, Mibsam his son and Mishma his son.
26 The descendants of Mishma:
Hammuel his son, Zakkur his son and Shimei his son.
27 Shimei had sixteen sons and six daughters, but his brothers did not have many children; so their entire clan did not become as numerous as the people of Judah. 28 They lived in Beersheba, Moladah, Hazar Shual, 29 Bilhah, Ezem, Tolad, 30 Bethuel, Hormah, Ziklag, 31 Beth Markaboth, Hazar Susim, Beth Biri and Shaaraim. These were their towns until the reign of David. 32 Their surrounding villages were Etam, Ain, Rimmon, Token and Ashan—five towns— 33 and all the villages around these towns as far as Baalath.[g] These were their settlements. And they kept a genealogical record.
34 Meshobab, Jamlech, Joshah son of Amaziah, 35 Joel, Jehu son of Joshibiah, the son of Seraiah, the son of Asiel, 36 also Elioenai, Jaakobah, Jeshohaiah, Asaiah, Adiel, Jesimiel, Benaiah, 37 and Ziza son of Shiphi, the son of Allon, the son of Jedaiah, the son of Shimri, the son of Shemaiah.
38 The men listed above by name were leaders of their clans. Their families increased greatly, 39 and they went to the outskirts of Gedor to the east of the valley in search of pasture for their flocks. 40 They found rich, good pasture, and the land was spacious, peaceful and quiet. Some Hamites had lived there formerly.
41 The men whose names were listed came in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah. They attacked the Hamites in their dwellings and also the Meunites who were there and completely destroyed[h] them, as is evident to this day. Then they settled in their place, because there was pasture for their flocks. 42 And five hundred of these Simeonites, led by Pelatiah, Neariah, Rephaiah and Uzziel, the sons of Ishi, invaded the hill country of Seir. 43 They killed the remaining Amalekites who had escaped, and they have lived there to this day.
Nemuel, Jamin, Jarib, Zerah and Shaul;
25 Shallum was Shaul’s son, Mibsam his son and Mishma his son.
26 The descendants of Mishma:
Hammuel his son, Zakkur his son and Shimei his son.
27 Shimei had sixteen sons and six daughters, but his brothers did not have many children; so their entire clan did not become as numerous as the people of Judah. 28 They lived in Beersheba, Moladah, Hazar Shual, 29 Bilhah, Ezem, Tolad, 30 Bethuel, Hormah, Ziklag, 31 Beth Markaboth, Hazar Susim, Beth Biri and Shaaraim. These were their towns until the reign of David. 32 Their surrounding villages were Etam, Ain, Rimmon, Token and Ashan—five towns— 33 and all the villages around these towns as far as Baalath.[g] These were their settlements. And they kept a genealogical record.
34 Meshobab, Jamlech, Joshah son of Amaziah, 35 Joel, Jehu son of Joshibiah, the son of Seraiah, the son of Asiel, 36 also Elioenai, Jaakobah, Jeshohaiah, Asaiah, Adiel, Jesimiel, Benaiah, 37 and Ziza son of Shiphi, the son of Allon, the son of Jedaiah, the son of Shimri, the son of Shemaiah.
38 The men listed above by name were leaders of their clans. Their families increased greatly, 39 and they went to the outskirts of Gedor to the east of the valley in search of pasture for their flocks. 40 They found rich, good pasture, and the land was spacious, peaceful and quiet. Some Hamites had lived there formerly.
41 The men whose names were listed came in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah. They attacked the Hamites in their dwellings and also the Meunites who were there and completely destroyed[h] them, as is evident to this day. Then they settled in their place, because there was pasture for their flocks. 42 And five hundred of these Simeonites, led by Pelatiah, Neariah, Rephaiah and Uzziel, the sons of Ishi, invaded the hill country of Seir. 43 They killed the remaining Amalekites who had escaped, and they have lived there to this day.
g. 1 Chronicles 4:33 Some Septuagint manuscripts (see also Joshua 19:8); Hebrew Baal
h. 1 Chronicles 4:41 The Hebrew term refers to the irrevocable giving over of things or persons to the Lord, often by totally destroying them.
I almost titled this Dead Hamites. Check out verse 41. They attacked their cousins, the Hamites and killed them all for pasture land. then 500 of them went on to invade the country of Seir.
This is from the easy English site.
The Meunites (in verse 41) were a clan who lived in the town called Gedor. Gedor was in the territory of Judah. The Meunites were not Israelites. They were descendants of Edom.
This passage (4:24-43) shows the early family of Simeon (verses 24-27). Then it records the towns where his tribe lived (verses 28-31). And then it shows some of their later movements (verses 34-43).
The names here differ from the lists in earlier parts of the Bible (Genesis 46:10; Numbers 26:12). This is because some people had more than one name.
There was a count of the tribes in the time of Moses (Numbers chapter 1). This count showed that there were 59 300 people in the tribe of Simeon. At the same time there were 74 600 people in the tribe of Judah. Some years later, there was another count of the tribes (Numbers chapter 26). At this count the number of people in the tribe of Simeon had reduced to 22 200. The tribe of Judah had increased to 76 500 people. Simeon was the smallest tribe in Israel.
From then on, the rate of increase was less for Simeon than for Judah.
Over a long period of time, the tribe of Judah took control of these cities. When David became king, all of these cities and villages were in Judah.
The tribe of Simeon did not support the kings of Judah. The kingdom divided during the rule of Rehoboam. Simeon was one of the 10 tribes that formed the new country called Israel. The tribe of Simeon had to leave Judah. During the rule of Hezekiah, many of them went east to Gedor. There is some doubt about where Gedor was. But it seems likely that it was near the Jordan valley. The Meunites were a clan of Edom.
About 500 people from the tribe of Simeon went to Mount Seir. Mount Seir was across the Jordan river, in the country called Edom. Here they killed the last of the descendants of Amalek.
This passage (4:24-43) shows the early family of Simeon (verses 24-27). Then it records the towns where his tribe lived (verses 28-31). And then it shows some of their later movements (verses 34-43).
The names here differ from the lists in earlier parts of the Bible (Genesis 46:10; Numbers 26:12). This is because some people had more than one name.
There was a count of the tribes in the time of Moses (Numbers chapter 1). This count showed that there were 59 300 people in the tribe of Simeon. At the same time there were 74 600 people in the tribe of Judah. Some years later, there was another count of the tribes (Numbers chapter 26). At this count the number of people in the tribe of Simeon had reduced to 22 200. The tribe of Judah had increased to 76 500 people. Simeon was the smallest tribe in Israel.
From then on, the rate of increase was less for Simeon than for Judah.
Over a long period of time, the tribe of Judah took control of these cities. When David became king, all of these cities and villages were in Judah.
The tribe of Simeon did not support the kings of Judah. The kingdom divided during the rule of Rehoboam. Simeon was one of the 10 tribes that formed the new country called Israel. The tribe of Simeon had to leave Judah. During the rule of Hezekiah, many of them went east to Gedor. There is some doubt about where Gedor was. But it seems likely that it was near the Jordan valley. The Meunites were a clan of Edom.
About 500 people from the tribe of Simeon went to Mount Seir. Mount Seir was across the Jordan river, in the country called Edom. Here they killed the last of the descendants of Amalek.
I have to admit.... the fights the relatives of Shem and Ham as well as Jacob and Esau had were lifelong and deadly. I need to remember here... Jesus is from Shem's family. Ham's family was cursed by Noah for some reason.... so the prophesy was that Shem's family would outgrow Ham's family. So here we saw [verse 40] the Israelites [Shem's descendants] taking land that had belonged to Ham's descendants. Then, in the following verses, the descendants of Jacob [Israelites] murdered off the last of Amalek's tribe. Amalek was the grandson of Esau.... the redheaded twin brother of Jacob.... who sold his birthright for some stew. Their mother Rebecca even complained about them fighting while they were in the womb.
Now this commentary is from biblestudytools.org, and it adds an interesting twist.
Now the curses on Ham and Amalek had a further accomplishment, when they seemed dormant, if not dead; as had also the curse on Simeon, that he should be divided and scattered (Gen. 49:7): yet to him it was turned into a blessing, for the families of Simeon, which thus transplanted themselves into those distant countries, are said to dwell there unto this day (v. 43), by which it should seem they escaped the calamities of the captivity. Providence sometimes sends those out of trouble that are designed for preservation.
Cousins.... murdering cousins.... part of the plan.....
Cousins..... migration to better pastures and safer living.... part of the plan
