The Wall

SamSpade

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(Sorry - not about Pink Floyd)

In a 3 *trillion* dollar budget (albeit as much as two-thirds is dedicated and unable to be subject to the whims of negotiation)
it seems to me that the difference between a 1.6 billion dollars and 5 billion dollars is ridiculously trivial.

I realize 3.4 billion is a lot of money - but when you're talking trillions - it's chump change.
Why do they want to SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT over what amounts to a few bucks?
 

Hijinx

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(Sorry - not about Pink Floyd)

In a 3 *trillion* dollar budget (albeit as much as two-thirds is dedicated and unable to be subject to the whims of negotiation)
it seems to me that the difference between a 1.6 billion dollars and 5 billion dollars is ridiculously trivial.

I realize 3.4 billion is a lot of money - but when you're talking trillions - it's chump change.
Why do they want to SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT over what amounts to a few bucks?

Why do the Democrats want to fill America with Spanish speaking people who want to come here to receive benefits, and not to become citizens.
Why do the Democrats want more Muslims in America when they can go to Dearborn and see into the future?
Why do the Democrats want open Borders where there is no vetting , and people with nefarious intentions can just walk in.

It's pretty obvious that Democrats just do not care who comes across our border, in fact they are against borders.
Nancy Pelosi can walk around her city and see the encampments of the homeless, the immigrants, and people who crap in the streets, and she wants that for all of America.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
Well they talked about this yesterday.

Schumer's most credible argument - which I don't think was credible - was that it was a waste of money
and won't fix anything. Because, you know, walls don't stop or hinder movement of people I guess.

3.7 billion dollars. THAT's what they're quibbling over.

I just looked at something I'd forgotten about - the California High Speed Transit.
A 100 billion dollar train that will more or less accomplish nothing.

And the Dems still want it, even though by now, the people of California mostly oppose it.
So it's bizarre that the argument is "too much money". Democrats never have a problem
spending buttloads of money for stuff they want.

What I'd FORGOTTEN completely was that they were willing to give him 25 billion -
if he got on board with keeping the Dreamers and the immigration lottery.

I have to think this is not pragmatism or immigration - this is making Trump look bad
because he will fail at one of his biggest campaign promises - to build the wall. Pelosi has even
gone on record repeatedly saying a wall is "immoral". I never get this - apparently a BORDER
wall is 'immoral' but a wall around their homes is - well that keeps people out, right?
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Well they talked about this yesterday.

Schumer's most credible argument - which I don't think was credible - was that it was a waste of money
and won't fix anything. Because, you know, walls don't stop or hinder movement of people I guess.

3.7 billion dollars. THAT's what they're quibbling over.

I just looked at something I'd forgotten about - the California High Speed Transit.
A 100 billion dollar train that will more or less accomplish nothing.

And the Dems still want it, even though by now, the people of California mostly oppose it.
So it's bizarre that the argument is "too much money". Democrats never have a problem
spending buttloads of money for stuff they want.

What I'd FORGOTTEN completely was that they were willing to give him 25 billion -
if he got on board with keeping the Dreamers and the immigration lottery.

I have to think this is not pragmatism or immigration - this is making Trump look bad
because he will fail at one of his biggest campaign promises - to build the wall. Pelosi has even
gone on record repeatedly saying a wall is "immoral". I never get this - apparently a BORDER
wall is 'immoral' but a wall around their homes is - well that keeps people out, right?

Good Post.
 

Bushy23

Active Member
Why is there even a negotiation? Trump said over and over and over and over and over and over and over again Mexico was going to pay for it. Why are you okay with him lying and now we are paying for it? Imagine the Democrats did that?! Would you be okay with it? You snowflakes all got your panties in a bunch when a certain someone said if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan.......
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Why is there even a negotiation? Trump said over and over and over and over and over and over and over again Mexico was going to pay for it. Why are you okay with him lying and now we are paying for it? Imagine the Democrats did that?! Would you be okay with it? You snowflakes all got your panties in a bunch when a certain someone said if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan.......

:yawn:

You snowflakes all got your panties in a bunch when a certain someone said if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan.......

That gross and total lie cost a lot of people a lot of money and lost health services. The cost of the wall is a drop in the bucket...and totally worth every dollar.
 
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PrchJrkr

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Why is there even a negotiation? Trump said over and over and over and over and over and over and over again Mexico was going to pay for it. Why are you okay with him lying and now we are paying for it? Imagine the Democrats did that?! Would you be okay with it? You snowflakes all got your panties in a bunch when a certain someone said if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan.......

Another one who can see into the future. Who's to say they won't pay down the road? Tell us how the climate change thingy works out too, will ya, since you have a crystal ball and all? At this point, what difference does it make?!
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Why is there even a negotiation? Trump said over and over and over and over and over and over and over again Mexico was going to pay for it. Why are you okay with him lying and now we are paying for it? Imagine the Democrats did that?! Would you be okay with it? You snowflakes all got your panties in a bunch when a certain someone said if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan.......

Since you seem to be ok with presidential misstatements like "if you like your health care provider, you can keep your health care provider" and the massive amounts of extra spending the average American now has on their health care, I presume you are also fine with the US paying for and constructing a wall? It's not the wall to which you object, it is the presidential statement that Mexico would pay for it?
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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Patron
I invite you naysayers to come to any border town, then tell me how fabulous it is to fill up with illegal immigrants and become Little Mexico.

Tell you what:

So far Monello and I haven't taken many pics of Corpus Christi because it's unappealing and not photogenic in any real way. But we'll venture out and snap some candids so you can see exactly why we need to not only build the wall, but deport all these people back to their own #### holes.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Imagine the Democrats did that?! Would you be okay with it?

If the Democrats were even remotely in favor of drastically curbing illegal immigration, I'd vote for them in a second. As it stands, they talktalk (Barry. Bill.) and then throw the doors wide open to every freaking third world criminal and drug dealer they can get their hands on.

PS, you know that new NAFTA deal? That's how Mexico will be paying for the wall.
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
How many immigrants are you personally sponsoring?

That is the #1 question to ask all elitist socialism turns into communism supporters. I don’t post much, anymore, because I am sick of their tirade against America, and Trump. I don’t listen to news much, either, anymore. It is exhausting and life goes on. They offer no solutions. They just tirade, bitch, moan, are uncivil, say ignorant poop, etc. God bless the USA, and go, Trump. :patriot: Btw, Melania is an immigrant, and became a citizen the correct way. The words that come to mind are shut up hypocrites.
 

BOP

Well-Known Member
Why is there even a negotiation? Trump said over and over and over and over and over and over and over again Mexico was going to pay for it. Why are you okay with him lying and now we are paying for it? Imagine the Democrats did that?! Would you be okay with it? You snowflakes all got your panties in a bunch when a certain someone said if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan.......

Wait, which MPD are you again?
 

BOP

Well-Known Member
I invite you naysayers to come to any border town, then tell me how fabulous it is to fill up with illegal immigrants and become Little Mexico.

Tell you what:

So far Monello and I haven't taken many pics of Corpus Christi because it's unappealing and not photogenic in any real way. But we'll venture out and snap some candids so you can see exactly why we need to not only build the wall, but deport all these people back to their own #### holes.

It's been years and years, but the last time I was in San Ysidro, it looked just as shiite-holish as most of TJ does.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
That is the #1 question to ask all elitist socialism turns into communism supporters. I don’t post much, anymore, because I am sick of their tirade against America, and Trump. I don’t listen to news much, either, anymore. It is exhausting and life goes on. They offer no solutions. They just tirade, bitch, moan, are uncivil, say ignorant poop, etc. God bless the USA, and go, Trump. :patriot: Btw, Melania is an immigrant, and became a citizen the correct way. The words that come to mind are shut up hypocrites.

You don’t even have your facts correct about that. She worked her illegally then used a genius visa claim she had talent no Americans had and then when she had no other options she married a rich buffoon to stay in the country.


You don’t wats hard the news because they tell you Truno is a conman and is going to end up in jail but if you ignore it it’s not real.
 
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