The Transgender Movement Is Not Interested In Compromise

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The trend of aggressive trans activism is of course most pronounced in academia, where social justice mobs are becoming more frequent, while reason and objectivity are in precipitous decline. Recently, the notion that biological sex, like gender, is merely a social construct has gained traction on the editorial boards of magazines like Scientific Americanand prestigious academic journals like Nature, which published an editorial in October arguing against classifying sex “on the basis of anatomy or genetics,” and asserting that, “The idea that science can make definitive conclusions about a person’s sex or gender is fundamentally flawed.”

Thankfully, there are still some academics willing to point out that sex does not exist on a spectrum, that it is in fact so binary in humans as to be among the most statistically verifiable phenomena in nature.

For believing this, and daring to say so in public, academics are increasingly facing harassment and threats of violence. In Britain, a scholar on human rights law at the University of Reading who had the temerity to assert that sex is fixed at birth said she recently received an anonymous 3:30 a.m. phone call from someone who told her she “should be raped and killed.” The professor also reported that after a recent debate about changes to gender law, her office door was covered in urine and she was targeted online.


The Transgender Movement Is Not Interested In Compromise
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
The trend of aggressive trans activism is of course most pronounced in academia, where social justice mobs are becoming more frequent, while reason and objectivity are in precipitous decline. Recently, the notion that biological sex, like gender, is merely a social construct has gained traction on the editorial boards of magazines like Scientific Americanand prestigious academic journals like Nature, which published an editorial in October arguing against classifying sex “on the basis of anatomy or genetics,” and asserting that, “The idea that science can make definitive conclusions about a person’s sex or gender is fundamentally flawed.”

Thankfully, there are still some academics willing to point out that sex does not exist on a spectrum, that it is in fact so binary in humans as to be among the most statistically verifiable phenomena in nature.

For believing this, and daring to say so in public, academics are increasingly facing harassment and threats of violence. In Britain, a scholar on human rights law at the University of Reading who had the temerity to assert that sex is fixed at birth said she recently received an anonymous 3:30 a.m. phone call from someone who told her she “should be raped and killed.” The professor also reported that after a recent debate about changes to gender law, her office door was covered in urine and she was targeted online.


The Transgender Movement Is Not Interested In Compromise

It's all BS the product of perverted and sick minds.

And the really insane thing is we are supposed to accept these mentally ill people so we don't hurt their crazed feelings.
 

Salmon

Well-Known Member
There should be not compromise when it comes to the civil rights of the LGBTQIAP community. This includes their right to use the rest room that correlates to their gender identity. Also, they should be addressed by their preferred pronoun.
 

Salmon

Well-Known Member
Gender is not Spectrum, but Binary

Your flawed theory fails to capture biological characteristics of gender. While most bodies have one of two forms of genitalia, which are classified as “female” or “male,” there are naturally occurring intersex conditions that demonstrate that sex exists across a continuum of possibilities.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
There should be not compromise when it comes to the civil rights of the LGBTQIAP community. This includes their right to use the rest room that correlates to their gender identity. Also, they should be addressed by their preferred pronoun.

While I am first to admit that EVERYTHING is a right that is not specifically excluded as such in our constitution (IAW the tenth amendment), one person's right is reasonably curtailed when it conflicts with someone else's. I can blare my stereo as loud as I want, but when the noises crosses my property line, there are limits because my neighbors have the right to NOT listen to it. Men have the right to use women's rest rooms right up to the point that the same restroom is expected to be occupied by more than one person - then the rights of the other people take precedence (as it is the "women's" rest room, not the "cross-dresser's" rest room).

People should be called by what they want to be called - I agree with that. If a man wants to be called Caitlyn, people should call that man Caitlyn. However, it is very difficult to communicate when words have no real meanings. Take pronouns for example. If I call a group of people "him", I'm excluding all but one person in that group, so it is actually wrong to call multiple people by a singular pronoun. Same with calling a man "she", or a woman "he".
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Your flawed theory fails to capture biological characteristics of gender. While most bodies have one of two forms of genitalia, which are classified as “female” or “male,” there are naturally occurring intersex conditions that demonstrate that sex exists across a continuum of possibilities.

See, that's where you're wrong. There are two sexes. Period. Everything else is a mutation.

Where you're right is that, within those two sexes there are a multitude of "gender" characteristics. A woman can have a manly beard, for example (though, without unnatural chemical stimulation, that is pretty rare). "Gender roles" refers to what are societal norms for the two sexes, and it is a gender-natural thing in accordance with our society for women to exclusively wear skirts and high heels (for example). So, a man wearing a skirt and high heels is acting outside the norms of his gender, thus trans-gender actions. That does not make him a female, but he is acting outside of his gender norm. Thus, if you say that gender preferences exist across a wide spectrum, you'd be right.

As you stated it, you are wrong.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
No, it’s settled science.

Ah, no those are not part of a naturally occurring normal spectrum, anymore than a vehicle made with parts not up to spec are normally functioning vehicles. Random mutations in DNA that express themselves as as outside the norm do not change the norm. But lets be honest here, the distribution of naturally occurring physically intersex persons is far, far outstripped by those who feel that way.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
No, it’s settled science.

Actually, science does not back up your position.

The differences go FAR beyond genitalia, which is why mutilating one's genitalia to try to change gender does nothing but harm a person physically - and psychologically.

The differences between men and women go deep into the very chromosomes that make us up.

An Actual Scientific Journal said:

The main differences between males and females are the X and Y chromosomes. Among humans, two X chromosomes make a woman, and an X and a Y chromosome make a man. However, there are other differentiating features between these chromosomes. Some differences include size, number of genes and even abnormal chromosome pairings. In some species, animals have a different sex-determining system, as they use a Z and a W chromosome.

Working Genes
While the male Y chromosome and female X chromosome differ in size, they also vary in the number of working genes on the chromosome. The X chromosome contains more than 1,000 working genes, and the Y chromosome has less than 100 working genes. Although males have an X chromosome, it behaves very differently when there is another X chromosome present compared to its behavior when a Y chromosome is present. Of the working genes on the X chromosome, 200 to 300 are unique to sex, so only 700 to 800 of the working genes are shared and active in both males and females.

View attachment 126230
 

gemma_rae

Well-Known Member
Your flawed theory fails to capture biological characteristics of gender. While most bodies have one of two forms of genitalia, which are classified as “female” or “male,” there are naturally occurring intersex conditions that demonstrate that sex exists across a continuum of possibilities.

Which are commonly known as birth defects.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
The LGBT community and the transgenders have a right to do anything they like.
They can dip their wick in each other exhaust pipe or gobble the goop to their heart's content.

I have the right not to accept their sick assed perversions.

It's just that simple. Transgendered men after the operation are still men who have been mutilated. Women are still women with a digit dick that does not ejaculate sperm.
There are 2 genders and a few freaks of nature.
 

GregV814

Well-Known Member
remember the old days was when they'd just say, "we're here, we're queer and in your face!!!" ? Now its a third gender eh Fishface???
 

GregV814

Well-Known Member
so, tell us old wise salmond, what do you identify yourself as ??? a fire hydrant??? a begonia?? a well educated sophisticated progressive that wears a pink p hat???
 

BOP

Well-Known Member
so, tell us old wise salmond, what do you identify yourself as ??? a fire hydrant??? a begonia?? a well educated sophisticated progressive that wears a pink p hat???

A non-child support and alimony-paying jail bird? Just a guess, right Jimmy/Salmon?
 

terbear1225

Well-Known Member
Quoting in the (most likely vain) hope that more people will read it and/or have it sink in. Far too many people use the terms sex and gender interchangably even though the words refer to two vastly different things.

See, that's where you're wrong. There are two sexes. Period. Everything else is a mutation.

Where you're right is that, within those two sexes there are a multitude of "gender" characteristics. A woman can have a manly beard, for example (though, without unnatural chemical stimulation, that is pretty rare). "Gender roles" refers to what are societal norms for the two sexes, and it is a gender-natural thing in accordance with our society for women to exclusively wear skirts and high heels (for example). So, a man wearing a skirt and high heels is acting outside the norms of his gender, thus trans-gender actions. That does not make him a female, but he is acting outside of his gender norm. Thus, if you say that gender preferences exist across a wide spectrum, you'd be right.

As you stated it, you are wrong.
 
Top