Homosexuality and lesbianism are an abomination in the eyes of God. Neither the marriages nor the "clergy" should be accepted by any Chrisitan religion.trisha said:With all the publicity about gay marriage, I ask what's the deal on some religions relaxing about ordained gays and lesbians? Is this something you agree or disagree about?
Railroad said:Homosexuality and lesbianism are an abomination in the eyes of God. Neither the marriages nor the "clergy" should be accepted by any Chrisitan religion.
Welcome aboard, BTW.
morganj614 said:God loves everyone. Good morning, BTW.
virgovictoria said:For the most part, unless angered, I try not to mix into politics or religion. I won't resign myself to a label or strict adherence to one path of thinking. I feel that each of us believes or disbelieves in a God, Gods, god, a higher power of powers that are greater than we humans are... Individuals are spiritual, individuals are religious. Some are not. Some have faith. Some can believe that there lies a goodness in themselves for the sake of humanity and/or for the hopes of eternal peace or because of Christianity and what God gave for our sins.
With that said, regardless of a person's sexuality, if he or she wants to carry a message of God, a higher power, of Christianity, of spirituality, of peace and serenity then openness of heart and mind and acceptance should be greater than anything else. Willingness, forgiveness, peace and unity is what I feel it is all about. If you don't feel that you can be comfortable with a homosexual sharing the gospel, then don't attend their church. Just don't hinder their desire to spread the message.
As always, my opinion.
True statement - He loves everyone, including the worst of the worst, but that doesn't mean He accepts our sins.morganj614 said:God loves everyone. Good morning, BTW.
Railroad said:True statement - He loves everyone, including the worst of the worst, but that doesn't mean He accepts our sins.
Seems simple, doesn't it?virgovictoria said:If you don't feel that you can be comfortable with a homosexual sharing the gospel, then don't attend their church.
Right answer.vraiblonde said:Seems simple, doesn't it?
It's like - what was it, the Episcopalians? - that ordained that gay minister and everybody was up in arms. But the Episcopalian powers that be approved it. So if you, as a member of the Episcopalian faith, don't like it, the logical thing to do would be change religious persuasions, because you are no longer at one with that brand of Christianity.
I will not speak to other religions. I live a way of life which is a relationship with Jesus. I am a Christian. If you are a Christian, then you must believe the word of God, the Bible. If you don't, then what do you place your faith on? That is a rhetorical question. That said, the Bible states that homosexual acts are an abomination to God. Read the account of Sodom and Gomorrah, Genesis 18:20 - 19:29. These entire cities were destroyed by God for the sin of homosexual behavior.morganj614 said:So I am going to hell for all my sins? According to the way I was brought up, all sins are forgiven as we are born of sin. Anyway, I am outta this thread, I hate to think there are conditions on one's spirituality or holiness. Have a beautiful day!
Matthew 7:21-23
This is just one of many places. I used this one since it is the New Testament and is a quote from Y'shua (Jesus.). I do this because many want to dismiss the account of Sodom and Gomorrah as being from the Old Testament. There are references to homosexual behavior being not acceptable in the New Testament as well.<sup id="en-NASB-23338">21</sup>"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. <sup id="en-NASB-23339">22</sup>"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
<sup id="en-NASB-23340">23</sup>"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
1 Corinthians 6:8-10
Seems pretty clear cut to me.<sup id="en-NASB-28476">8</sup>On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren. <sup id="en-NASB-28477">9</sup>Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
<sup id="en-NASB-28478">10</sup>nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
Or, as many have done, reject the Episcopal organization and consider it an anathema. The Bible also confirms that as we get closer to the last day, many will fall away from the Truth. The Episcopal organization has done just that by rejecting God's word for political correctness.vraiblonde said:Seems simple, doesn't it?
It's like - what was it, the Episcopalians? - that ordained that gay minister and everybody was up in arms. But the Episcopalian powers that be approved it. So if you, as a member of the Episcopalian faith, don't like it, the logical thing to do would be change religious persuasions, because you are no longer at one with that brand of Christianity.
2ndAmendment said:I will not speak to other religions. I live a way of life which is a relationship with Jesus. I am a Christian. If you are a Christian, then you must believe the word of God, the Bible. If you don't, then what do you place your faith on? That is a rhetorical question. That said, the Bible states that homosexual acts are an abomination to God. Read the account of Sodom and Gomorrah, Genesis 18:20 - 19:29. These entire cities were destroyed by God for the sin of homosexual behavior.
God loves everyone, but He hates sin. Period. You can be forgiven all your sins, but that requires repentance. True repentance is the turning away from all sin including sexual sin. It doesn't matter whether in human wisdom people don't believe that there are conditions on salvation; the Bible says there are.
This is just one of many places. I used this one since it is the New Testament and is a quote from Y'shua (Jesus.). I do this because many want to dismiss the account of Sodom and Gomorrah as being from the Old Testament. There are references to homosexual behavior being not acceptable in the New Testament as well.
Seems pretty clear cut to me.
Railroad said:Homosexuality and lesbianism are an abomination in the eyes of God. Neither the marriages nor the "clergy" should be accepted by any Chrisitan religion.
Welcome aboard, BTW.
vraiblonde said:Let me point out that Leviticus is in the Old Testament. If you are going to take the teachings in the Old Testament as literal gospel, then you must also believe that a woman is unclean for 40 days after having a baby - longer if that baby is a girl. You must also believe that a rape victim must marry her attacker and that women should be stoned to death for pre-marital sex.
No picking and choosing, please.
God can use anyone or any experience to reach someone. Does He use sinners? You bet. Does He approve of sin? Emphatically, NO!virgovictoria said:I do not know Bible verse, but my experience has been that it is the desire of the Lord to spread the word of the Lord. If the message can be reached by more people via a person they are comfortable with - NOT based on their homosexuality, but, just so happens to be homosexual in addition to being religious, wouldn't the greater good lie in spreading the message? To reach more people and spread faith?
No picking and choosing. I believe every word of the Bible.vraiblonde said:Let me point out that Leviticus is in the Old Testament. If you are going to take the teachings in the Old Testament as literal gospel, then you must also believe that a woman is unclean for 40 days after having a baby - longer if that baby is a girl. You must also believe that a rape victim must marry her attacker and that women should be stoned to death for pre-marital sex.
No picking and choosing, please.
Sorry Dems, you are wrong.dems4me said:Those laws were chosen then as a guideline, etc...
I think everyone is a sinner, haven’t you realized by now that the Bible has it set up that way? Some people its homosexuality... doesn't mean you are condemned to hell, etc... it just means they are HUMAN and no different than you or I. However its a sexual preference that deviates from the norm so it gets made fun of - just the same as if a kid was born and walked around with 10 arms or something. Things in this world happen for a reason and its not up to us to judge others and decide how this world, that belongs to God should be run. .... JMHO
Matthew 7:21-23
<sup id="en-NASB-23338">21</sup>"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. <sup id="en-NASB-23339">22</sup>"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
<sup id="en-NASB-23340">23</sup>"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
"Just Your Humble Opinion" has nothing to do, absolutely no bearing on scripture. If opinion matter instead of the Bible, everyone could do anything they wanted and still be in God's grace. That is not what the Bible says. If you are a Christian, the Bible has to be your final authority on all things spiritual. If it is not, you a fooling yourself.1 Corinthians 6:8-10
<sup id="en-NASB-28476">8</sup>On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren. <sup id="en-NASB-28477">9</sup>Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
<sup id="en-NASB-28478">10</sup>nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.