Disaster Aid?

ylexot

Super Genius
I'm curious if anyone has heard anything about aid coming from other countries? When Indonesia was hit by the tsunami, many coutries provided aid (although most of it came from the US). Now that we have a disaster to deal with, is anyone else helping us?
 
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Bruzilla

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I heard on the news today that Japan is sending their earthquake SAR and recovery teams over, of course that was before the reports that the locals were shooting at the rescuers, and that they are willing to open their strategic oil reserves to the US if needed.
 

Triggerfish

New Member
ylexot said:
When Indonesia was hit by the tsunami, many coutries provided aid (although most of it came from the US).

:confused: Last time I heard it was Australia and Germany that provided the most aid to Indonesia.

Australia 1 billion Australia$ US$ 787,000,000
Germany 500 million Euros US$ 674,000,000
Japan US$ 500,000,000
Canada US$ 345,000,000
U.S. US$ 345,000,000

To be considered most it have to be more than half.......
Yes, the American people sent rescue workers, ships, troops, and private donations but so did other countries.
 
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Triggerfish

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TOKYO — The Japanese government will provide $200,000 in cash to the American Red Cross and offer up to $300,000 worth of tents, blankets and other supplies for victims of Hurricane Katrina, Chief Cabinet Secretary Hiroyuki Hosoda said Friday.

Japanese automakers have also announced emergency aid packages, with Toyota Motor Corp pledging a total of $5 million to support activities of the Red Cross and the Friedkin Disaster Relief Fund. Nissan Motor Co said it and its employees will offer a total of $750,000 and 50 pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles for Red Cross workers. The Japanese Red Cross Society decided to provide $200,000 to its U.S. counterpart.
http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=2&id=347992
 

ylexot

Super Genius
Triggerfish said:
:confused: Last time I heard it was Australia and Germany that provided the most aid to Indonesia.

Australia 1 billion Australia$ US$ 787,000,000
Germany 500 million Euros US$ 674,000,000
Japan US$ 500,000,000
Canada US$ 345,000,000
U.S. US$ 345,000,000

To be considered most it have to be more than half.......
Yes, the American people sent rescue workers, ships, troops, and private donations but so did other countries.
Source? Only thing I could find was this:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/graphics/tsnumai_relief/flash.htm
It says Japan and then the US, but could be old data.

Most does not always mean more than half. For example, Clinton the most votes, but did not get more than half of them.

BTW, after your home is destoyed, which aid is more useful to you? A crisp $100 bill or food, medicine, and a bunch of troops helping you clean and rebuild. Aid isn't measured solely in dollars and the dollars from the country needs to include the private donations to be at all telling. We are a country of people, not of the government (or we used to be).
 
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Bruzilla

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I was watching one of the evening shows on FNC last night and they had Michael Chertoff, the head of homeland security on, and he was asked about the fact that over 20 countries had made offers of aid and assistance, and that they had all been refused or deferred. He verified that there have been many offers of aid and assistance from foreign countries, but that these countries were being asked to hold off doing anything until the US gets its own act together, or words to that effect. Basically he didn't want the headache of trying to coordinate a bunch of foreign entities in the disaster area while dealing with everything else that's going on. That or he's afraid of what the ramifications would be if a bunch of foreign aid workers gets shot up while delivering aid.
 

nomoney

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Bruzilla said:
I was watching one of the evening shows on FNC last night and they had Michael Chertoff, the head of homeland security on, and he was asked about the fact that over 20 countries had made offers of aid and assistance, and that they had all been refused or deferred. He verified that there have been many offers of aid and assistance from foreign countries, but that these countries were being asked to hold off doing anything until the US gets its own act together, or words to that effect. Basically he didn't want the headache of trying to coordinate a bunch of foreign entities in the disaster area while dealing with everything else that's going on. That or he's afraid of what the ramifications would be if a bunch of foreign aid workers gets shot up while delivering aid.
:yeahthat: the offers are out there, we are just not accepting any as of right now.
 
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Bruzilla

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The EU just offered to open it's oil reserves to the US, but once again, it doesn't do us any good.
 

Triggerfish

New Member
ylexot said:
Source? Only thing I could find was this:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/graphics/tsnumai_relief/flash.htm
It says Japan and then the US, but could be old data.

Most does not always mean more than half. For example, Clinton the most votes, but did not get more than half of them.

BTW, after your home is destoyed, which aid is more useful to you? A crisp $100 bill or food, medicine, and a bunch of troops helping you clean and rebuild. Aid isn't measured solely in dollars and the dollars from the country needs to include the private donations to be at all telling. We are a country of people, not of the government (or we used to be).


Did you even read the part that said other countries also sent private donations and people to help out? The $$$ in most situations are the recommended donation from private citizens. They announced that during the tsunami and they said so for Katrina. The reason for this is that they can purchase what they know is needed close to the local area. It can save a lot of money not having to ship things to the other side of the world. You think being a country of the people and not the government is unique? The Canadian government is a confederation, a government with a much weaker central government than the federal system of the U.S. Australia is also very individualistic.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=385809
http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=2767547
http://www.wahinesurfing.com/news.asp?Id_news=2407
http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/RMOI-6AJ9YG?OpenDocument
http://blogger.xs4all.nl/marcone/archive/2005/01/03/19687.aspx
The last is kind of questionable but it does have some useful links.

BTW your link is said the information is no longer available.
 
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Triggerfish

New Member
ylexot said:
Most does not always mean more than half. For example, Clinton the most votes, but did not get more than half of them.

It's how you worded it...... Most of it came from the U.S. would mean more than half was sent by the U.S. If you would have stated The U.S. sent the most aid, it would have meant the U.S. was the single biggest contributer.

I'm not usually a grammar Nazi but those 2 things mean completely different things.
 

Triggerfish

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According to Friday's Washington Post pg A15 offers have been offered by Venezuela, Israel, Russia, Japan, Canada, France, Hondorus, Germany, Jamaica, Australia, Britain, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Greece, Hingary, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Mexico, China, South Korea, The United Arab Emirates, NATO, and the Orgaization of American States.
 

Triggerfish

New Member
Bruzilla said:
The EU just offered to open it's oil reserves to the US, but once again, it doesn't do us any good.


So did Japan. No good? Maybe..... EU, Japan and others offering access to their oil reserves have lowered the cost of oil per barrel finally but not the price at the pumps yet.
 
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FromTexas

This Space for Rent
Triggerfish said:
So did Japan. No good? Maybe..... EU, Japan and others offering access to their oil reserves have lowered the cost of oil per barrel finally but not the price at the pumps yet.

That is because the price at the pumps has nothing to do with supply. It has to do with panic and price gouging.
 

Triggerfish

New Member
FromTexas said:
That is because the price at the pumps has nothing to do with supply. It has to do with panic and price gouging.

Yes, I know. Oh Well. :shrug: However I wouldn't say it has nothing to do with supply.
 
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Bruzilla

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FNC was reporting that 98 countries have offered assistance, and that the Mexican Army is sending a truck convoy containing water purification teams to New Orleans. It'll be the first time that Mexican Army has been on American soil since they lost the territory.
 

Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
Bruzilla said:
FNC was reporting that 98 countries have offered assistance, and that the Mexican Army is sending a truck convoy containing water purification teams to New Orleans. It'll be the first time that Mexican Army has been on American soil since they lost the territory.

Mexico lost the territory? Last I read Spain sold it to France. But that may just be the Eastern liberal press spin on things from the 1800's.
 

Steve

Enjoying life!
The list of international aid is here:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/09/06/international.aid/index.html/

Some gems...

Kuwait: $400 million in oil, $100 million cash
Saudi Arabia: $255 million from Aramco
Qatar: $100 million cash
United Arab Emirates: $100 million cash
India: $5 million
Japan: $1 million cash, generators, tents, blankets, bottled water
France: Tents, tarps, Meals Ready to Eat (MREs), water treatment supplies
Germany: MREs and high speed pumps
United Kingdom: MREs
U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs: U.N. Disaster Assessment and Coordination Team and logistics support


Does anyone see something really fcuked up here? And why we would we ever need the U.N. to coordinate shiznit for us??
 
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