Perspective on the U.S. Senate

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
as intended and as it is now.
MR. (OR MRS.) HYDE OR US SENATOR



The greatest lesson of the last few weeks may well have been the candid look we got at what the US Senate has become.



Originally conceived as a filter for legislation and Presidential actions that would account for the interests of EACH State; it has become little more than a collection of Lords and Ladies that rule by some mysterious right or by birth. The Constitutional intent for a body that would account for (i.e. "balance") the interest of each State on an equal basis disappeared with Cavalry charges and trench warfare in the First World War.



The Constitution stated in 1787, the year of ratification, that "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof.". This was how poor little Rhode Island was to have its interests respected every bit as much as big old New York or populous Massachusetts regarding Federal laws and actions. It was simple; it is nowhere else in the world practiced; and most of all IT WORKED.



The period of the First World War was one of turmoil both internationally and nationally. There was a positive outbreak of Amendments to the Constitution unlike any other period in our history (4 Amendments in 7 years). The second of these 4 Amendments to the Constitution read, "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof.".



This switch from election by your State legislature to election by voters made a subtle but very powerful change that has become more apparent over time, especially over the past 40 years. The last few weeks have highlighted just how fast this change is affecting everything from States rights to the Federal Judiciary and the attitude of US Senators.



When US Senators were elected by the State Legislature they represented the interests of the State. Today they represent whatever national or international special interest gives them the money and support they need to maintain their office. Would a Senator (like one of mine) support growing National Park Service arrogance to close roads through Parks and beaches along the ocean if the State Legislature were the ones that would reelect him? Of course not, but he gets reelected anyway. Why? Because national environmental groups from all over the country and Federal bureaucrats that benefit will not just vote for him: they will give him donations, write articles and news releases about him, volunteer for him, leak things to his staff, and campaign for him. State interests are where in this equation?



Similarly, when the US Senate ratifies an environmental Treaty or Convention that is used in US Courts to justify taking without compensation, or giving broad new Federal powers at the expense of State authority (Endangered Species, Invasive Species, Wildlands, Wilderness, Animal Welfare, Marine Mammals, etc.) would any State legislature send them back to do more of the same? Of course not, but the Sierra Club and The Nature Conservancy and PETA and The Humane Society of the United States et al will get him or her reelected. State interests are where in this equation?



Likewise when nominees for the Supreme Court are pummeled on behalf of national interest groups advocating issues like abortion and gay rights, one is forced to ask how is this the business or concern of someone supposedly representing the interests of a particular State?



In the aftermath of Katrina a US Senator was observed to be considering punching the President of the United States. Of course I would be locked up for saying that but like some ancient Lady, she flits away and is not even banished.



The point to consider is that US Senators have Devolved (not Evolved) since 1913, when the XVII Amendment was ratified, into preening peacocks. They are merely lucky US Representatives or lucky lawyers that were in the right place at the right time. Do you think either of us would stand a chance to beat one? Yeah right! They get not only the privileges of incumbency; each has a coterie of supporters from Boston to Los Angeles. The "interest of the State" is a quaint concept left in Civics Books in the Old Book Store. Senators maintain their power by playing ball with and representing national and international forces as representative of us and "our State" as the UN or the European Union.



They still have a lock on approving Treaties and Supreme Court nominees though. Plus ALL legislation must pass their arcane little scenarios of secret minuets and antiquarian rules' rulers. Why? If they are merely a House of Lords (as they were originally and specifically conceived NOT to be) we ought to do like the Canadians and British and Germans and Russians did and make them merely ceremonial costumes. Then the President and the House of Representatives could function like a Parliament and Prime Minister and get on with:

1.. Eliminating all State authorities.
2.. Declaring central authority over everything.
3.. Eliminating guns and hunting and private property and (fill-in-the-blank).
4.. Declare the US a Socialist Republic and just run the place through a "Committee".


I have grown to be convinced that of all the forces we face in putting the US back on a sound footing regarding the management of our environment and the plants and animals therein and so many other tasks before us, one of the greatest impediments is the present Lordly nature of the US Senate and it's inhabitants. The first "Native Ecosystem", as in Constitutional environment, that we should all push to restore is the US Senate. US Senators should be elected by State Legislatures and represent THEIR STATE otherwise they are worse than useless, they are dangerous. If the 17th Amendment cannot be repealed (shhh, the us senate would have to "pass" it first) I opt for just making them wear fancy capes and wigs on holidays in parades. Letting them think and act like they are doing something worthwhile other than working as long as they want and retiring millionaires is far worse for all of us than just paying them the money and telling them to go sit in some bar until the next holiday.



Jim Beers

18 Sep 2005

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Bruzilla

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Since ammending the Constitution is never an effort taken lightly due to the high level of concurrence needed, this article begs for some explanation of why the 17th Ammendment was needed if the original method for electing Senators was so great. Generally an ammendment is generated once things have "hit the fan", so it stands to reason that maybe the old way wasn't so great.

A quick look at some neutral articles on the subject reveals that there was little different between pre- and post 17th Ammendment Senate elections. Pre-ammendment elections were frequently based on who had the most powerful "big business" sponsors or who could offer the best bribes to the legislature... so aside from semantics nothing has really changed. Also, devisiveness between Democrats and Republicans in the state legislatures often got so extreme that they wouldn't complete a successful Senate election for up to four years, which left many vacancies in the Senate. Does anyone see any less devisiveness and rancor between Dems and Republicans?

In an ideal World, our senators would be fair and impartial honest brokers of power for the state legislatures, but the early to mid 1800s showed that graft, greed, and corruption trumps honesty anyday, and the post-ammendment Senate shows that this trend continues, just on a different level. It's a damn shame we don't live in that ideal World, but since we don't I think the repealing of the 17th ammendment would do nothing but trade one set of problems for another.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
I think the writer was implying that the international/national flavor would be taken out of the Senate. I concur.

Corruption is always a factor with people. Power and greed breeds corruption. The Founders were altruistic for the most part when it came to government. That quickly changed as others were elected. It is sad but a fact.
 
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Bruzilla

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A reading of the account of the situation that led to the adoption of the 17th ammendment reads almost exactly like an account of today's politics... except there's no mention of a Clinton or Schumer. :lmao:
 
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