Open the door...we really need more!

Hessian

Well-Known Member
1922...-1924
By Steamship..through Ellis Island--passing through the Quota act & the Literacy act.
and they did not belong to a religion that vows the destruction of all Infidels.
and they signed up to serve in WWII even if it meant fighting against their original homeland.

...do you think these Abdullahs, Hakims, and Mahmouds will gladly enlist to help stabilize the Moslem world in a US uniform?
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
Hessian said:
1922...-1924
By Steamship..through Ellis Island--passing through the Quota act & the Literacy act.
and they did not belong to a religion that vows the destruction of all Infidels.
and they signed up to serve in WWII even if it meant fighting against their original homeland.

...do you think these Abdullahs, Hakims, and Mahmouds will gladly enlist to help stabilize the Moslem world in a US uniform?

Since I served with many of them, I doubt that they won't.

Should we now shut down our borders to refugees based upon their religion?

Isn't religous intolerance the very basis that caused the creation of this country?
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Im pretty sure that this country was not built on the promise of welfare for life.

Its time for a major revolt in this country when our own government is willing to house and feed and give welfare for life to a non resident, while we have natural born citizens starving and cold without shelter right in our own streets.

I say F the ragheads and take care of our own first.
 

Mikeinsmd

New Member
bcp said:
Im pretty sure that this country was not built on the promise of welfare for life. Its time for a major revolt in this country when our own government is willing to house and feed and give welfare for life to a non resident, while we have natural born citizens starving and cold without shelter right in our own streets. I say F the ragheads and take care of our own first.
:yeahthat: I'd be a little more forgiving if it was anyone but a bunch of Muslims.
 

harleygirl

Working for the weekend
Mikeinsmd said:
:yeahthat: I'd be a little more forgiving if it was anyone but a bunch of Muslims.
I have to agree with you. I talked with my step-son this morning from Iraq, who said the civil unrest there is out of control. He says he does not see them willing to be a democratic nation, he has never seen so many lunatics in all his life.
 

river rat

BUCKING GOAT
Thank your son for me...

harleygirl said:
I have to agree with you. I talked with my step-son this morning from Iraq, who said the civil unrest there is out of control. He says he does not see them willing to be a democratic nation, he has never seen so many lunatics in all his life.


and tell him to say thanks to his buddies too.

I have no one over there. So glad.
It must be hard to stay motivated and vigilant in a country whose countrymen can't appreciate the sacrafices that are being made by men and women from another land.
I know that some of them understand. I hope that he can interact with a few who do. :huggy:
 

Pete

Repete
Hessian said:
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2004-07/24/article04.shtml

I just don't understand what inspires our State Department to do this.
Is there a need for 7000 non-English speaking, poverty-stricken, generally unskilled Moslem immigrants in Philadelphia?
Just like the need for 3000 Somolians in central Maine.

This is Madness...how could we be so stupid?
I was in Maine when this problem got really ugly. Lewiston Maine was totally overwhelmed with a huge influx of Somoli's. The first batch were relocated to Lewiston for Somolia and went on welfare. They sent word back and the flood gates opened. Soon there were thousands ovewhelming the schools, welfare system, cleaning out the food banks, section 8 housing, it was terrible. Crime skyrocketed, tensions were everywhere.

Finally the Mayor of Lewiston after begging the federal government to stop the flow for months wrote a letter to the tribal leaders back in Somolia telling them not to send anymore people because the city could not take anymore. The press got ahold of it and within days he was catagorized as a horrible bigoted, racist monster.
 

Hessian

Well-Known Member
You do realize the multitude of problems we just have muddled into right?

A) Leaving a corrupt socialist system, where bribery is expected, black marketing is a way of life and racial discord is intense.

B) A number of these people will have a chip on their shoulder We still hear of sect violence between groups that brutalized each other over the centuries (ie Balkan Peninsula & Arminian issues). Revenge is a matter of restoring honor to them: They find someone from a rival group here....it will erupt all over again.

C) Their technology is 1960's at best...kids will adapt, parents will not.

D) The attitude of welfare is crippling...it is thought to be deserved, it decays the working spirit.

E) Moslems may have the lowest possible conversion to Christianity...and they will be settled near a mosque...that will even make assimilation near impossible.

F) There is no guarrantee that they will not give aid & comfort to enemies of the US because their loyalties are to Mohammed & Allah...and the money they give to the mosque could easily continue the war against us.

G) The tax $$ will be spent on housing help, food, needs, medical, retraining-when it could just as easily be spent on immigrants from western democracies who understand law, medicine, engineering, and technology.

again I say...we are so blindly stupid to open our doors to this.
 

Pete

Repete
MMDad said:
Since I served with many of them, I doubt that they won't.

Should we now shut down our borders to refugees based upon their religion?

Isn't religous intolerance the very basis that caused the creation of this country?
I think you have to examine the circumstances during the periods. In the late 18th to the early 19th centuries we had a great need for people. Westward expansion, industrial revolution created the need. At that time welfare was non existant, you came and made it or you starved.

There comes a time when all societies have to look at themselves and say we have reached our limit. While immigration was good for us for a period the government owes it to us to protect our economy and society.

JMO
 
Pete said:
I think you have to examine the circumstances during the periods. In the late 18th to the early 19th centuries we had a great need for people. Westward expansion, industrial revolution created the need. At that time welfare was non existant, you came and made it or you starved.

There comes a time when all societies have to look at themselves and say we have reached our limit. While immigration was good for us for a period the government owes it to us to protect our economy and society.

JMO
:yeahthat: Well said, Pete.
 
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