Someone give me a car crash...

Larry Gude

Strung Out
...PLEASE!!!

Our 12 year lied to my face this PM. Stone cold busted and refuses to come clean.

She's been a fibber for years and it's her big flaw in an otherwise pretty darn good kid.

...she just came clean...I'll get back to you...:bawl:
 

vraiblonde

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*whew* Just finished giving her the talk about why honesty is important, how nothing she can do will get her in as much trouble as lying will, and how now we can't believe anything she says because she's branded a liar.

Why can't these kids realize that, whatever you do, you're not going to get in near as much trouble for that as you will for lying about it?????
 

sleuth

Livin' Like Thanksgivin'
Originally posted by vraiblonde
Why can't these kids realize that, whatever you do, you're not going to get in near as much trouble for that as you will for lying about it?????

Probably for the same reason they can't learn the concept of delayed gratification. It's pretty similar.

The immediate response to lying to you is that they have peace in the short-term. That's all that matters.
 

Christy

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Originally posted by Larry Gude
...PLEASE!!!

Our 12 year lied to my face this PM. Stone cold busted and refuses to come clean.

She's been a fibber for years and it's her big flaw in an otherwise pretty darn good kid.

...she just came clean...I'll get back to you...:bawl:

:poorbaby:

Was it a big bad lie or just a dumb lie? Nothing serious I hope. :poorbaby:
 

vraiblonde

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Originally posted by Christy
Was it a big bad lie or just a dumb lie? Nothing serious I hope.
Dumb lie BUT she did lie, so maybe she's lying about what she lied about? :crazy:

Larry pulled in the driveway as she was coming around the side of the house. She sees him, turns around and runs back around back. So Larry follows her - "why did you run away?" She's like "no reason :whistle:" Larry says, "Don't lie to me - why did you run back around the house when you saw me pull up?"

"Dad, I SWEAR nothing's going on!!"

Well, obviously something's going on so Larry starts getting pizzed. She keeps swearing it's nothing and Larry gets madder and madder.

So he drags her back over here and I get out of her that she had some neighbor boys over in the back yard and she was afraid Larry would get mad. Why she thought he'd get mad about boys in the yard, who knows - but she's definitely grounded for lying about it. :cussing:
 

Nanny Pam

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Originally posted by vraiblonde
Dumb lie BUT she did lie, so maybe she's lying about what she lied about? :crazy:

Larry pulled in the driveway as she was coming around the side of the house. She sees him, turns around and runs back around back. So Larry follows her - "why did you run away?" She's like "no reason :whistle:" Larry says, "Don't lie to me - why did you run back around the house when you saw me pull up?"

"Dad, I SWEAR nothing's going on!!"

Well, obviously something's going on so Larry starts getting pizzed. She keeps swearing it's nothing and Larry gets madder and madder.

So he drags her back over here and I get out of her that she had some neighbor boys over in the back yard and she was afraid Larry would get mad. Why she thought he'd get mad about boys in the yard, who knows - but she's definitely grounded for lying about it. :cussing:

:whew: teenagers.....

:huggy: It will get better, I promise. Hang in there.
 

Pete

Repete
Mine is a fibber too. I hope it is not genetic because his mother is a pathelogical liar. I mean a bad liar not just little. Anyway when he started fibbing I tried talking to him but it got worse. Being the neanderthal I am I just got fed up and the next time I caught him in a lie I came down very hard. Grounded, loud lecture, cold shoulder the works. It has been good since. I catch him almost everytime. I think I have him convinced that I have supernatural lie detecting power, works for me. :shrug:
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
we're going through this with the DQ right now too, and tell her the same thing ... "you won't get in near as much trouble for whatever you did wrong as you will if you lie about it." :banghead: hers are mostly little things, like she'll say she doesn't remember what she did to get put in time-out at daycare or something. but i'm hoping if we grill it into her now, she'll be more honest when the time comes that it's bigger things ... like boys in the back yard. :lol:

:huggy:
 

vraiblonde

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Or maybe it will NEVER get better. Maybe they'll all grow up to be pathological liars. Then they can run for President and win two terms! :yay:
 

Larry Gude

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Close...

...I didn't follow her around back. It was already obvious something was up. I just 'casualed' inside and said 'what up?'.

The reflex to lie is what is so maddening. My suspicion is the two BIQ (boys in question) are questionable young lads. I don't know them very well. There are other neighborhood boys I know better whom she would not have reacted this way. In any event, she overreacted so abnormally that it was a no brainer.

Anyone, she broke (finally!) and she started feeling bad (I hope and believe) for the right reasons; dissapointing us and placing our relationship in jeopardy. I think asking her how she'd feel if her kid lied to her was the last straw.

Anyway, she is showing a contrition that is new for her. She has a bit o' larceny that worries us sometimes. We also had a big, fat hug and she really started sobbing and said 'dad, I'm really sorry'.

Later I got a 'I'm not glad but I am glad in a way that today happened. Know what I mean?'. Lotta words for our cat burgler. She took her punishment with nothing but deserving acknowledgement, zero protest.

Maybe we (she) grew a bit today?

:clap: or :confused:
 

sleuth

Livin' Like Thanksgivin'
I didn't lie too much as a kid, but when I did... it was the silent treatment. My mom saying "I don't talk to liars" was the only response I could get for hours...

Eventually, I outgrew it, and if something happened that I didn't want to tell my parents, I didn't lie. I just didn't mention it at all, and if they asked me about it, I would say, "I'd rather not talk about it."

Most of the time that kept me from lieing, because most of the time they didn't press. They knew I could be trusted to make mostly good decisions, and they knew that when I promised something I meant it.
 

Tonio

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Never lied like that, but if I broke something, I tried to cover it up by fixing it without my parents knowing about it. If they found out, I 'fessed up.

When I was about 7, I kicked the screen door closed because I thought it would be cool, and the glass broke. I started screaming because I thought I was really going to get it from my parents. My mother thought I was screaming because I hurt myself.
 

vraiblonde

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When I was in 10th grade I skipped school and hitchiked to Malcolm, NE with a girlfriend and shot pool all day. We caught a ride back and, thinking we were going to be slick, had the guy drop us off at the school bus stop so the neighbors wouldn't see me getting of of some guy's car and tell my Mom.

My Mom just happened to be driving by as I was getting out of the car. :ohwell:

She jumps out, grabs me and my friend, hauls us in the car and starts yelling - "Where were you???" I said, "We were at school - that's Jodie's brother and he gave us a ride home."

BAM! She backhanded me right in the mouth! "Don't lie to me!!! Where WERE you????" Me: "I SWEAR, Mom! We were at school!"

BAM! She backhands me again! Me: "*boo hoo* We skipped school and hitchiked to Malcom to shoot pool all day *boo hoo*" :lmao:

I can count on one hand the number of times my Mom has ever hit me in my life - each time was because I had skipped school, got caught and tried to lie my way out of it.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Originally posted by vraiblonde
When I was in 10th grade I skipped school and hitchiked to Malcolm, NE with a girlfriend and shot pool all day...

Wow, it feels like I missed out on a lot. I graduated high school pure as the driven snow. Never skipped, never drank, never did drugs, never smoked, never looked at porn, never had anything close to a real date.
 

Ken King

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Originally posted by Tonio
Wow, it feels like I missed out on a lot. I graduated high school pure as the driven snow. Never skipped, never drank, never did drugs, never smoked, never looked at porn, never had anything close to a real date.
Were you in a nunnery?
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Originally posted by Ken King
Were you in a nunnery?

:lol: No, I was picked on a lot in elementary school, so as I got older I became more reclusive. I came out of my shell somewhat in college.
 

vraiblonde

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Well, I was bad bad BAD when I was a teen. If I were my Mom, I'd have drowned me at birth. That's probably why I'm so strict with my kids - I KNOW what they'll do, given half a chance. :lol:
 
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