How to Confront ISIS

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
How to Confront ISIS

There may be a responsible way to fight the Islamic State, but the U.S. will have to leave its boots in the closet and the drones in the hangar.


Harvard professor Stephen Walt suggests that a policy of containment and patience will result in ISIS creating a limited state and eventually joining the rest of the civilized world. He argues that many other governments currently in power — such as those in the Americas, China, Russia, and Israel — were built on brutal and coercive means. Yet Walt does not consider any moral frame in the outcome of these nations. Should the world have waited for the Nazis to become civilized?

The people of the region opposing and ready to fight ISIS and their allies, including the United States, must demonstrate a clear and consistent moral basis in all of their acts. We cannot fight ISIS while routinely killing civilians in the process. We must peel back the layers of support for ISIS by engaging the local community to work with us out of their own beliefs — and not just solely for our payments. Each layer of support to ISIS requires the engagement of a different community.

In the long run, promoting sectarianism in Iraq by arming the Sunnis in the Anbar region will help strengthen ISIS, a sectarian Sunni group. Eventually many Sunnis will go back to their roots and support their own group against Iranian Shia and foreign infidels. Already an explosion of sectarianism mixed with a generous supply of weaponry has engulfed the whole region.

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Larry Gude

Strung Out
Another mother####er that refuses to see fundamentalism for what it is. :tap:

The REASON we win if we leave, militarily, is because they will go back to peacefully consuming one another in the vicious battle of the 'proper' inheritors of the throne that keeps them busy when we let them BECAUSE the desire, the belief, the trust in fundamentalism as THE way is simply their way. Why can't we accept that? Why can't we just ####ing understand that and accept it? Especially when it will work in our national interests????
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
Another mother####er that refuses to see fundamentalism for what it is. :tap:

The REASON we win if we leave, militarily, is because they will go back to peacefully consuming one another in the vicious battle of the 'proper' inheritors of the throne that keeps them busy when we let them BECAUSE the desire, the belief, the trust in fundamentalism as THE way is simply their way. Why can't we accept that? Why can't we just ####ing understand that and accept it? Especially when it will work in our national interests????

Only if they decide that killing each other for control is more important than spreading to other lands. Your conclusion also assumes they all have the exact same priorities, if they did Europe would not be full of Muslims trying to spread shara law.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Then why do you think they will stay contained in their own countries then, because for the past 700 years they have not.

How many times have Muslim armies invaded North America in, say, the last billion years?

And how many times have US armies invaded THEIR Holy Lands in the last, oh, 25 years?

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PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
How many times have Muslim armies invaded North America in, say, the last billion years?

And how many times have US armies invaded THEIR Holy Lands in the last, oh, 25 years?

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In the past they have made it pretty far considering they were using horses and camels from Spain to south east Asia. Now we have this new thing called an airplane.
 
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