‘Keyword Warrants’

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
“Keyword warrants are a blatantly unconstitutional way to transform every Google search into a government tracking tool,” Albert Fox Cahn, executive director of the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project, told The Epoch Times in an email.

Law enforcement in the so-called keyword warrants seek records relating to searches in a bid to advance an investigation.

Most of the warrants, which are similar to geoforce warrants, have sought information from Google.

In one of the earliest known examples, a police officer in Hennepin County in 2017 asked Google to turn over details of any user in Edina who searched four terms, all containing the name “Douglas,” between Dec. 1, 2016, and Jan. 7, 2017.

Details sought included names, addresses, telephone numbers, dates of birth, social security numbers, and payment information.
The population of Edina is about 53,000.



 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
You aint seen nothing yet.
Tracking? Wait until the Government gets to look at every banking transaction you make over $600 dollars.
The only reason this crazy idea makes sense is so that the Government can track every citizens buying and spending habits. Something that is none of their business.
 

DaSDGuy

Well-Known Member
You aint seen nothing yet.
Tracking? Wait until the Government gets to look at every banking transaction you make over $600 dollars.
The only reason this crazy idea makes sense is so that the Government can track every citizens buying and spending habits. Something that is none of their business.
And instead of just demanding tax returns from our presidential candidates we can then demand a look at every banking transaction they have made over $600 dollars.
 

Bare-ya-cuda

Well-Known Member
Retailers will be able to skirt this by ringing you up in 2 or more transactions to stay under the 600 limit per transaction or just pay cash

Not saying your big box stores will but the business that sell merchandise we rather not have the government know we are purchasing certainly will be on board. If they won’t do it find one that will.

Government agents will have their hands full tracking home appliance and lumber purchases of millions of people.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
You aint seen nothing yet.
Tracking? Wait until the Government gets to look at every banking transaction you make over $600 dollars.
The only reason this crazy idea makes sense is so that the Government can track every citizens buying and spending habits. Something that is none of their business.

Of course.

Not only is it none of their business, but who doesn't have a monthly bank transaction of at least $600? Even if all you do is pay your rent, that's typically going to be at least $600, and paying a mortgage will be significantly more than that. So what Janet Yellen is really saying is that they will be monitoring the bank account of every single American, not to find tax cheats but to see what we're spending our money on. That's why they want to get away from using cash - because the government can't track it.

Imagine the manpower it would take to check out every single transaction over $600 that every American makes. The very thought of that is ridiculous, so what they're really doing is setting up triggers to alert them when a transaction occurs to, say, a gun dealer or some other Marxist unapproved activity.

This is Big Brotherism plain and simple. And it's just astonishing that so many Americans are okay with this.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Thought the proposal was reporting on accounts with a minimum $600 and not transactions of $600 or more.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Thought the proposal was reporting on accounts with a minimum $600 and not transactions of $600 or more.

My understanding is that they want to track transactions, but I'm willing to be schooled. Either way, it doesn't matter - the end result is every single American having their finances tracked by the government, and the only reason they'd do that is to go after us for buying things they don't want us to have. Like guns.

$600 is such a random number, certainly there's a reason why Yellen chose it.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
Sounds about the average price of a decent handgun these days.
Or a sweet tire/wheel combo for my golf cart.
160091
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
..... but who doesn't have a monthly bank transaction of at least $600?

My pay checks are over $ 600 a month

The IRS wants those Ebay / Facebook Markeplace Sellers ... those scofflaws not paying taxes on a few 1000 dollars a year in resales

Imagine the manpower it would take to check out every single transaction over $600 that every American makes.

Meh a few to review Computer reports

...... say, a gun dealer or some other Marxist unapproved activity.



:yay:
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
I buy most thing with cash, but of course my check comes by direct deposit, so I cash a lot of checks for CASH.
They will probably throw the book at me.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
So everyone take a little at a time out of your accounts until you have like $30 or $40K. On the day this goes into effect, put the money back. All of it, all at once, everyone at the same time.

Watch them explode.
 

Roberta

OLD WISE ONE
Of course.

Not only is it none of their business, but who doesn't have a monthly bank transaction of at least $600? Even if all you do is pay your rent, that's typically going to be at least $600, and paying a mortgage will be significantly more than that. So what Janet Yellen is really saying is that they will be monitoring the bank account of every single American, not to find tax cheats but to see what we're spending our money on. That's why they want to get away from using cash - because the government can't track it.

Imagine the manpower it would take to check out every single transaction over $600 that every American makes. The very thought of that is ridiculous, so what they're really doing is setting up triggers to alert them when a transaction occurs to, say, a gun dealer or some other Marxist unapproved activity.

This is Big Brotherism plain and simple. And it's just astonishing that so many Americans are okay with this.
What Americans and how do you know this?
 

HemiHauler

Well-Known Member
Of course.

Not only is it none of their business, but who doesn't have a monthly bank transaction of at least $600? Even if all you do is pay your rent, that's typically going to be at least $600, and paying a mortgage will be significantly more than that. So what Janet Yellen is really saying is that they will be monitoring the bank account of every single American, not to find tax cheats but to see what we're spending our money on. That's why they want to get away from using cash - because the government can't track it.

Imagine the manpower it would take to check out every single transaction over $600 that every American makes. The very thought of that is ridiculous, so what they're really doing is setting up triggers to alert them when a transaction occurs to, say, a gun dealer or some other Marxist unapproved activity.

This is Big Brotherism plain and simple. And it's just astonishing that so many Americans are okay with this.

Wrong.

It's not individual $600 transactions, it's $600 total for the year. What is proposed to be reported is the aggregate amount, not the individual line items. This is not dissimilar to 1099 reporting requirements for organizations paying contractors as individuals. This $600 has been long-established for this situation.

But in the end $600 number is just something that Janet threw out there, likely just aligning with the 1009 limit for lack of a better idea. She's not a lawmaker, she's an economist. Ways and Means Cmte Chair Neal has stated he intends to make the threshold $10,000, just as it is for the work FINCEN does to catch transactions suspected of structuring.

Here's a source from which you can chase it down further should you wish to: https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-407849893636
 
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