There is only one God

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
the God of the Bible. This is a devotional from LivePrayer.com. It is worth reading. Christians need to be clear about what God we serve, revere, praise, give thanks, and pray to.

posted with permission from Bill Keller said:
"You shall have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:3

The God of the Bible is NOT the same as "allah" of Islam!!! Today, I need
to dispel the colossal error so many, including our President, make in
thinking that God, THE CREATOR, the God of the Bible, is the same as "allah"
of the false religion of Islam. Let me insure you understand something at
the very start. There is only one God and that is the God of the Bible.
"Allah," is actually the imaginary god created out of the deranged mind of
Mohammed when he dreamed up this false religion we know of as Islam 1400
years ago. Allah is nothing but a poor imitation and rip-off of THE GOD and
is no more real than Harry Potter is!!! When you study the attributes of
the God of the Bible and of allah, it is clear and obvious these are NOT the
same person!

Sadly, a Catholic bishop in the Netherlands is asking churches in that
country to use the name allah for God to "ease tensions between Muslims and
Christians." You have go to be kidding me!!! I expect this type of foolish
thinking from politicians and people of the world, but from a priest? I
have a better idea for this dear bishop. Why not tell Muslims to start
using the name God for allah since God is real and allah is not!!! Let me
help educate this bishop about Islam. Tensions will never be eased between
Muslims and Christians since they consider Christians infidels and are
commanded in the book Mohammed wrote to kill all infidels! Islam is not
interested in easing tensions, it is about death to all who refuse to
believe Mohammed's fantasies!

WorldNet Daily recently reported, "An international ministry organization
reaching out to Christians in Iraq is confirming the pressure from Muslims
on Christians to abandon their faith or their homes is rising, with videos
of actual beheadings used to threaten believers." A San Francisco reporter
was recently gunned down and murdered outside of his home for his negative
stories on a Muslim bakery in that city. The Muslim activist group with
ties to terror groups CAIR, Council on American-Islamic Relations, has been
relentlessly attacking Liveprayer. They have been doing everything they can
to get us off the Internet and television since we have the audacity to tell
the truth that Islam is a false religion about hate and death and those who
follow their lies will die and go to hell unless they repent and turn to
Jesus

Forty years ago, there would have been no need to even write a Devotional
like this. Not only does the need exist for me to have to address this issue
today, but it is a message that the world AND the church needs to hear. You
see my friend, there is only ONE GOD, and that is the God of the Bible. The
God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. When we pray, there is only ONE GOD that
we pray to, the God of the Bible. All other gods are false gods. Praying to
a false god is as productive as praying to a tree, your refrigerator, or a
toilet. There is only ONE GOD that hears and answers our prayers, and that
is the God who Created the heavens and earth, the God who Created you and
me, the God of the Bible.

It is critical that when we are talking with someone and use the name "God,"
we call Him the "God of the Bible." That way, there will not be any
confusion to those we are talking to, who you are talking about. Because we
are a nation where people are free to worship whatever god they want, and
with the influx in the past 100 years of people from every corner of the
globe who have brought their false gods with them , not to mention the
aggressive marketing and recruiting campaigns by every cult known to the
world, simply saying, "God," is not good enough. That is why you need to
start making it a practice in your day-to-day conversation to call God, the
God of the Bible.

I am aware of the various names that the Bible calls God by, but there are
many false religions in the world that use all of the various names we have
for God. There is no way to say, "God," and be 100% positive everyone
understands which god you are speaking about unless you call Him the GOD OF
THE BIBLE. Also, when you hear someone use the name God, DO NOT just assume
they are talking about the God of the Bible!

Let me make this perfectly clear. Allah is NOT God! Buddha is NOT God! The
god of the Mormon cult is NOT God! The god of the Jehovah's Witness cult is
NOT God! The god of the Kabbalh cult is NOT God! The god of the Hindu is NOT
God! The god of Scientology is NOT God! The god of the Christian Science
cult is NOT God! All of the gods of the false religions of the world are NOT
God! My friend, there is but ONE GOD, He is the GOD OF THE BIBLE!

I want to expose, for you right now, one of the politically-correct traps
that many Christians have fallen into, and it needs to stop now. It is a
subtle trap of satan that they have fallen into so they don't offend anyone.
I think it is comical that satan has no problem offending Christians every
moment of every day, yet we are supposed to be sensitive to people's
"feelings." Let me tell you right now, if you are REALLY sensitive to people
's feelings, you will tell them the truth of God's Word so that they don't
perish for eternity.

Many high-profile Christians who talk to large audiences of Christians and
non-Christians, those in the public arena, will use the name of God. I have
no doubt they are speaking of the God of the Bible. I have no doubt that
their Christian listeners understand they are referring to the God of the
Bible. But I also have no doubt that those non-Christians hear the name God
and believe it to be whatever false god thy may believe in. I can guarantee
you when a Muslim hears the name, "God," he is thinking of allah. Allah is
no more the God of the Bible than Mickey Mouse is. They are both fictional
characters! I can guarantee you that when a Mormon hears the name, "God," he
is thinking of the god of Mormon theology. The god of the Mormon cult is no
more the God of the Bible than Jesus and Lucifer are brothers as that cult
believes!

I love you and care about you so much. I realize that while we have been
sleeping and not paying attention, we now have laws that take the God of the
Bible out of the public discourse. They have taken God out of the schools,
removed Him from all public buildings, are trying to take His name out of
the Pledge, working on removing Him from our money, and will continue to do
everything they can to eliminate God. Now more than ever, those who know the
God of the Bible must do everything we can to insure that HIS name is
clearly identified and boldly proclaimed to this lost world since He is the
only hope we have.

I will be praying for you today. Praying that when you say the name God, you
identify Him as the God of the Bible so that those who hear you will have no
doubt who you are talking about. In this lost and hurting world there are
many false gods, but there is only ONE TRUE GOD. That is the God of Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob, the God who created the heavens and the earth. When we
pray, there is only ONE GOD to pray to who hears and answers our prayers,
that is the God of the Bible!!!


In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
 

Bavarian

New Member
Back in the '60's when I was in High School and ecumenism was becoming the big thing, a Brother said that Allah was Arabic for The God. So, maybe the Bishop thought this way, ie. calling God Allah did not mean the same Allah as the Mohamedens, just used their language.
I still think it is a bad idea, though.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
The God of the Bible is NOT the same as "allah" of Islam!!! Today, I need
to dispel the colossal error so many, including our President, make in
thinking that God, THE CREATOR, the God of the Bible, is the same as "allah"
of the false religion of Islam. Let me insure you understand something at
the very start. There is only one God and that is the God of the Bible.
"Allah," is actually the imaginary god created out of the deranged mind of
Mohammed when he dreamed up this false religion we know of as Islam 1400
years ago. Allah is nothing but a poor imitation and rip-off of THE GOD and
is no more real than Harry Potter is!!! When you study the attributes of
the God of the Bible and of allah, it is clear and obvious these are NOT the
same person!


Sounds almost identical to what they say about any religion other than Islam...





.. just before they strap the explosives to their chests.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
itsbob said:
Sounds almost identical to what they say about any religion other than Islam...





.. just before they strap the explosives to their chests.
thats thrid world shiat there bob, in america we use airplanes to drop our bombs!


seriously though, thats the fallacy of the I'm right and everybody else is wrong ALWAYS attitude of most religions. Why cany they understand that since noone understands god, we might just all be talking about the same entity?
 

CAPPY2609

dont be dumb
pretty conceited concept to create humans and then punish us for something he gave them, yet he chooses to exercise: free will. For our sake I can only theres only one god, any more than that would be a total pain. Imagine a universe full of hypocrites.
 

brendar buhl

Doesn't seem Christian
I find it amazing how much common ground there is between Judaism, Islam and Christianity. I have discovered this common ground by having authentic conversation with people from all three groups. When people are willing to admit that they don’t understand everything they become more willing to listen to other points of view. This doesn’t mean that you compromise your beliefs, in fact it takes someone with a great deal of faith to do so. When you listen to people you find out why they believe what they believe. This doesn’t make them right but it gives you (the Christian) the opportunity to show true selfless compassion to someone. Isn’t that what Christianity is all about? Most of what I’ve read in the Gospel shows that Jesus spent most of his time simply showing love to people who probably didn’t deserve it (like me). The people that Jesus had harsh words for were not the ones who didn’t understand who God was. Jesus had harsh words for the leaders of the church who knew God but put their own selfish greed for power before their love for their fellow man.
 

nhboy

Ubi bene ibi patria
Did old Bill really give his permission for you to post that claptrap?

I think "Allah" is Arabic for the word God. I don't think Mohammed invented Arabic.

It is difficult for me to believe that one would put a lot of faith in the words of this egotistical person (Keller) who has the gall to insist his God talks to him every time he has a point to make which furthers his agenda. I wonder what makes him so special that his God talks to him. Is it the same God who spoke with Falwell and now speaks with Bush? Does Keller's God talk to you?

It seems strange that an ordinary member of the flock, so to speak, who has the temerity to share the joy with others upon receiving messages from God, is swiftly bundled away to the psychiatrist's office.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Midnightrider said:
thats thrid world shiat there bob, in america we use airplanes to drop our bombs!

You're kidding right? You're comparing our military, who TARGET military targets (NOT CIVILIANS), to the cowards that would butcher dozens while blessing a man and woman at their wedding? The "shiat" just reached it's limited depth.

seriously though, thats the fallacy of the I'm right and everybody else is wrong ALWAYS attitude of most religions. Why cany they understand that since noone understands god, we might just all be talking about the same entity?

Aren't you expressing what YOU think is right? Who the heck do you think you are? :sarcasm:
 
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nhboy

Ubi bene ibi patria
2ndAmendment,

Could one say that Jesus "invented" Christianity?

And maybe Luther "refined it"?


"including our President, make in thinking that God, THE CREATOR, the God of the Bible, is the same as "allah" of the false religion of Islam"

The "devotional" (what is a devotional?) you pasted in your post was not dated. Please identify which President (Bush?), where, when and in what context the above is based upon?
 
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2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
nhboy said:
Well then, could one say that Jesus "invented" Christianity?

And maybe Luther "refined it"?


"including our President, make in thinking that God, THE CREATOR, the God of the Bible, is the same as "allah" of the false religion of Islam"

The "devotional" (what is a devotional?) you pasted in your post was not dated. Please identify which President (Bush?), where, when and in what context the above is based upon?
It was today's devotional. A dictionary is your friend.
Main Entry: 2devotional
Function: noun
: a short worship service
Jesus, the God of the Bible come as man, is the central figure of Christianity. Jesus is the Christ. See the word derivation? Christianity is God's plan of salvation.
 

nhboy

Ubi bene ibi patria
2ndAmendment said:
It was today's devotional. A dictionary is your friend.
Jesus, the God of the Bible come as man, is the central figure of Christianity. Jesus is the Christ. See the word derivation? Christianity is God's plan of salvation.

OK, todays devotional. I agree that Jesus is the central figure of Christianity and I agree that the word Christianity is derived from the word Christ, but

Do YOU believe that President Bush regards the "God of the Bible" and Allah as being the same or are you just accepting Keller's word on this?
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
nhboy said:
OK, todays devotional. I agree that Jesus is the central figure of Christianity and I agree that the word Christianity is derived from the word Christ, but

Do YOU believe that President Bush regards the "God of the Bible" and Allah as being the same or are you just accepting Keller's word on this?
Bush is a politician. By definition, he is an appeaser. I think he probably personally believes in the God of the Bible, but he has made statements that equate the god of the Qur'an with the God of the Bible and that is where the disagreement with the Bible occurs.

There are many that believe that Allah and the God of the Bible are the same. The Jews and Christians have the same God; Allah isn't the same. As Bill Keller points out; read the attributes of the God of the Old and New Testaments and the attributes of Allah and they are very different. While the God of the Bible has His vengeful side, He is a loving Father that has provided reconciliation between man and Him by coming as Jesus as the only sacrifice needed. Allah is describe as only a vengeful god exacting retribution without any reconciliatory path. While the God of the Bible has extracted retribution, He has always provided reconciliation. Allah extracts retribution and man has to find a way to appease him.
 

nhboy

Ubi bene ibi patria
but he has made statements that equate the god of the Qur'an with the God of the Bible /QUOTE said:
Can you answer a simple question without proselytizing?

Do you know where, when and in what context did he makes those statements?
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
nhboy said:
2nAmendment said:
but he has made statements that equate the god of the Qur'an with the God of the Bible
Quoting of me fixed. You're welcome.

nhboy said:
Can you answer a simple question without proselytizing?
I am a Christian. I am doing my best to follow the Great Commission of Jesus to all Christians.

Matthew 28:19-20

19"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

20teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
So when it comes to discussing Christianity, salvation, God, or similar topics, the answer to your question is "No."

nhboy said:
Do you know where, when and in what context did he makes those statements?
This statement was made Nov. 20, 2003, during the joint press conference in England with Prime Minister Tony Blair. A reporter noted Bush has frequently expressed the view that freedom is a gift from "the Almighty," but questioned whether Bush believes "Muslims worship the same Almighty" as the president and other Christians do.

"I do say that freedom is the Almighty's gift to every person. I also condition it by saying freedom is not America's gift to the world," Bush replied. "It's much greater than that, of course. And I believe we worship the same god." This is from a report in the London Telegraph.

How's that sparky?
 
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