More on that Birth Certificate thing...

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
From the Atlas Shrugged website:

After the 3rd Circuit Court told Berg he had no standing, he filed for the Writ of Certioari to the SCOTUS. But apparently Obama has until Dec. 1 to respond to this. I wonder what the answer will be?

This is interesting. Souter tells Obama to produce the vault copy by December 1, 2008. I believe the messiah will defy the Justices.

Who will force the issue? Who wants to open up that pandora's box? Imagine if there is something on that birth certificate that disqualifies Obama from the office of the President. What are you going to do? Start a civil war? There will be blood in the streets you try to enforce the rule of law. This should have happened before the election. Obambi knows it too.

Here is the fraud report first reported at Atlas.

The Supreme Court and Obama's Birth Certificate organicpeas

If The Supreme Court Decides…?

At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter's Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.

"I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate," says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. "They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect."

Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.

Atlas Shrugs: WILL SCOTUS SOUTER TELL OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1 UPDATED: /OR NOT


UPDATE From Berg's site:

Press Release 11-07-08: US Supreme Court awaits response to Berg Writ of Certiorari from Obama, DNC and co-defendants

Saturday, 08 November 2008 04:23 administrator Main - News For Immediate Release: - 11/07/08

U. S. SUPREME COURT AWAITS RESPONSE TO BERG'S WRIT OF CERTIORARI FROM OBAMA, DNC and Co-DEFENDANTS (Contact information and PDF at end) (Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 11/07/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States filed a Writ of Certiorari in the United States Supreme Court on October 30, 2008, requesting review of the United States District Court, Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Judge Surrick’s Dismissal of Philip J. Berg’s lawsuit against Barack H. Obama, Jr., the DNC and the other co-Defendants. Accordingly, the U. S. Supreme Court has set dates in which Barack Obama, the DNC and all co-Defendants are to respond to the Writ, which is on or before December 1, 2008.

Mr. Berg remarked today, “I look forward to receiving Defendant Obama's response to the Writ and am hopeful the U. S. Supreme Court will review Berg v. Obama. I believe Mr. Obama is not a constitutionally-qualified natural-born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of President of the United States.”

Mr. Berg’s case, Berg vs. Obama was dismissed from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Docket # 08-cv-4083 for lack of standing. Mr. Berg filed a Writ of Certiorari for review of the case and an injunction to stay the election pending review. Justice Souter denied the injunction. It is expected that the Court will decide whether or not to review Berg v. Obama after the Defendants file their response, and Mr. Berg has replied to the Defendant’s response. The Defendants' response is due by December 1st and Mr. Berg's reply will be submitted thereafter.

I expect Obama's response to be the birth certificate. What could it be? What else should it be? Another stall? Why?

UPDATE: Let me clarify, Obama does NOT HAVE TO RELEASE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE, though he should.
Berg's website
Obama Crimes
 

Pandora

New Member
:confused: Have we heard anymore about Obama's grandmother's funeral?

All of it is suspicious, the way he traveled there, had his birth certificate sealed, grandma was on her 'death bed' and now, haven't heard a thing more about her funeral.
 

backagain39

New Member
Even if this is true, it will be buried. There would be major riots in the streets because Whitey was after Obama.......this will go away.

I want to know what happened to the LA times tapes.......
 
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JustinB

Guest
:confused: Have we heard anymore about Obama's grandmother's funeral?

All of it is suspicious, the way he traveled there, had his birth certificate sealed, grandma was on her 'death bed' and now, haven't heard a thing more about her funeral.

Westboro Baptist Church will be picketing the funeral of Obama's grandmother
 

Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
From the Atlas Shrugged website:

Berg's website
Obama Crimes

Remember that Obama is considered President-elect only as a courtesy. Not until the Electoral college votes "On the Monday following the second Wednesday in December, the electors of each state meet in their respective state capitals to officially cast their votes for president and vice president" will he really be President-elect but nobody will know until January 6th. If he does not respond to the SCOTUS on 1 December, the court might declare him in ineligible before "...the president of the Senate" (Dick Cheney), "who on January 6th opens and reads the votes in the presence of both houses of Congress. The winner is sworn into office at noon on January 20th."
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
Remember that Obama is considered President-elect only as a courtesy. Not until the Electoral college votes "On the Monday following the second Wednesday in December, the electors of each state meet in their respective state capitals to officially cast their votes for president and vice president" will he really be President-elect but nobody will know until January 6th. If he does not respond to the SCOTUS on 1 December, the court might declare him in ineligible before "...the president of the Senate" (Dick Cheney), "who on January 6th opens and reads the votes in the presence of both houses of Congress. The winner is sworn into office at noon on January 20th."



:yeahthat: I just think it will be interesting to see what, if any, reply he gives to the Writ.
 
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PsyOps

Pixelated
Is this really for real? I mean the USSC actually gave president-elect Obama a deadline to produce his BC? If it turns out to be true we would the greatest Constitutional crisis of our time. The court would be in a dilemma knowing the social chaos it would cause to nix the election be it true that BO is not a US citizen. There would outright violence in the streets all over this country. I’m thinking the USSC will risk a violation of the Constitution to avoid civil war. I just can’t imagine it.
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
Is this really for real? I mean the USSC actually gave president-elect Obama a deadline to produce his BC? If it turns out to be true we would the greatest Constitutional crisis of our time. The court would be in a dilemma knowing the social chaos it would cause to nix the election be it true that BO is not a US citizen. There would outright violence in the streets all over this country. I’m thinking the USSC will risk a violation of the Constitution to avoid civil war. I just can’t imagine it.

Could this be what Biden was talking about when he said Obama would be challenged?
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Could this be what Biden was talking about when he said Obama would be challenged?

Just another thing I would find completely incomprehensible that this party would go through all of this just have it all sabotaged over a BC. Throw not only the entire country into chaos but also their own party.
 

backagain39

New Member
I don't understand why he just will not produce this document.....

Unless he is not a US citizen or the truth of who his dad is would make us all faint......

I still think this will be buried and go away..............
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
I don't understand why he just will not produce this document.....

Unless he is not a US citizen or the truth of who his dad is would make us all faint......

I still think this will be buried and go away..............

How hard would it be for someone like him to produce a fake?
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Is this really for real? I mean the USSC actually gave president-elect Obama a deadline to produce his BC? If it turns out to be true we would the greatest Constitutional crisis of our time. The court would be in a dilemma knowing the social chaos it would cause to nix the election be it true that BO is not a US citizen. There would outright violence in the streets all over this country. I’m thinking the USSC will risk a violation of the Constitution to avoid civil war. I just can’t imagine it.

A little civil unrest would be preferable to the official end of the United States
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
A little civil unrest would be preferable to the official end of the United States

"Official end of the United States"?

Interesting how many people have this fear of BO and these flaming socialists that will control congress. Where the heck ARE we headed?
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
Is this really for real? I mean the USSC actually gave president-elect Obama a deadline to produce his BC? If it turns out to be true we would the greatest Constitutional crisis of our time. The court would be in a dilemma knowing the social chaos it would cause to nix the election be it true that BO is not a US citizen. There would outright violence in the streets all over this country. I’m thinking the USSC will risk a violation of the Constitution to avoid civil war. I just can’t imagine it.

The way I understand it is filing for a Writ of Certiorari is asking the SCOTUS to basically hear a case that was turned down in a lower court. From reading all the way through those blog entries, it looks like the court has notified Obama to answer to the petition of the Writ. And the blogger surmises Obama would answer by providing a copy of the BC since that would stop all further inquiries. But the SCOTUS doesn't even have to grant the Writ.

Writ of Certiorari. A decision by the Supreme Court to hear an appeal from a lower court.

Someone with a legal claim files a lawsuit in a trial court, such as a U.S. District Court, which receives evidence, and decides the facts and law. Someone who is dissatisfied with a legal decision of the trial court can appeal. In the federal system, this appeal usually would be to the U.S. Court of Appeals, which is required to consider and rule on all properly presented appeals. The highest federal court in the U.S. is the Supreme Court.

Someone who is dissatisfied with the ruling of the Court of Appeals can request the U.S. Supreme Court to review the decision of the Court of Appeals. This request is named a Petition for Writ of Certiorari. The Supreme Court can refuse to take the case. In fact, the Court receives thousands of "Cert Petitions" per year, and denies all but about one hundred. If the Court accepts the case, it grants a Writ of Certiorari.

"Review on writ of certiorari is not a matter of right, but a judicial discretion. A petition for writ of certiorari will be granted only for compelling reasons." Rule 10, Rules of the U.S. Supreme Court.

Definition: Certiorari, Petition for Writ of Certiorari.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
A little civil unrest would be preferable to the official end of the United States



:yeahthat: People haven't read up on what would happen if the person elected to the Presidency was NOT QUALIFIED.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
"Official end of the United States"?

Interesting how many people have this fear of BO and these flaming socialists that will control congress. Where the heck ARE we headed?

Nothing to do with Barry Soetoro or congress. It's about the dissolution of the government if every action of our government is illegal
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Keep clinging to that last thread of hope.
Isn't that exactly what Barry's message is? Hope? For a change to "honest" governance?

Why does he not supply the answers to the questions?

I never thought this would have ANY legs - tin foil hat crap - until Obama himself got involved in being evasive.
 
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