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Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Christ. Trump would have had an empty intelligence department if that were the case. Notice how people in intelligence voted against Trump in droves? It tells you something especially because this group usually leans right.
It does indeed tell me something. The CIA is an agency we can do without.
It has taken it upon itself to deny the will of the people of the United States.

It does not matter whether or not the people made a mistake.
It is the duty of the CIA, the FBI, the IRS to be neutral in their efforts and to seek to advise and aid the elected president.

If they feel they cannot do that , or if it is proven they cannot do that they need to be dismissed.

Without security clearances.

Are you stupid enough to believe that the CIA should be running the country?
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
First of all, you don't (nor do I) even know the vast majority of these people who signed this letter. So, I can't make any assumptions about their politics or honorable service. I will say that, of those that served in the military, this is not behavior we expect from high ranking officers - vocally taking political sides. It's especially not becoming of an officer to take sides with someone who falsely accused a sitting president of treason. They should outright reject this sort of thing. Given that they have, I reject their premise. It dishonors their own service, and it dishonors the branch they served in. I am embarrassed that I might have served under any of them. Knowing that their command decisions might have been more motivated by politics than protecting this country, and honoring the elected people they served under. The president is the commander in chief of our military; and to have a bunch of self-serving former military officers take this stance against the commander in chief of our military is shameful. The people of this country decided that this is who they want as president and commander in chief. What these officers are doing is spitting in the faces of everyone that made that decision - and all for what? A stupid security clearance that someone doesn't even need.


Sounds like something a cuck would say.

"Well he is the president so we just have to listen to and go along with every stupid idea he has" This is the United States not North Korea.

It's amazing those that claim to be the most patriotic and cry when a NFL player kneels decides that 175 members of the intelligence community aren't allowed to voice their opinions?

When did this country come a dictatorship?

No one is above criticism not even the president.
 

Salmon

Well-Known Member
It does indeed tell me something. The CIA is an agency we can do without.
It has taken it upon itself to deny the will of the people of the United States.

It does not matter whether or not the people made a mistake.
It is the duty of the CIA, the FBI, the IRS to be neutral in their efforts and to seek to advise and aid the elected president.

If they feel they cannot do that , or if it is proven they cannot do that they need to be dismissed.

Without security clearances.

Are you stupid enough to believe that the CIA should be running the country?
Are you kidding me? You want to eliminate the CIA?
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Sounds like something a cuck would say.

"Well he is the president so we just have to listen to and go along with every stupid idea he has" This is the United States not North Korea.

It's amazing those that claim to be the most patriotic and cry when a NFL player kneels decides that 175 members of the intelligence community aren't allowed to voice their opinions?

When did this country come a dictatorship?

No one is above criticism not even the president.
I don't even know what a 'cuck' is.

Again, you show you don't know what a dictator is. A dictator would have had all of these people either imprisoned or put to death. All Trump did was what he had the authority to do - strip someone of their clearance. You people are acting like Brennan's life came to an end. Trump had no use for Brennan. Trump was NEVER going to call him in for advice on intel. Brennan had no need for the clearance. It's not a right. It's something the government grants to people and it's something they can take away.

Brennan's comments went beyond criticism. He accused the president of treason. Do you even understand what that means? Does it matter to you that someone of Brennan's influence to lie about such a serious crime? Do you realize this is akin to calling for Trump's death? You find this to be reasonable "criticism"? What did Trump do to merit this from a former CIA director?

Like I keep saying... there are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but to go to the absolute extremes of calling him every ____ist, and every ___phobe under the sun, and accuse him of treason is just insanity. Trump is a lot of things, but he's none of those. You people on the left only show your inability to manger your anger and hatred toward those you disagree with. And it really makes me not want to waste my time with people that can't be reasoned with.
 
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Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Are you kidding me? You want to eliminate the CIA?
Like I said in another post I don't know why they argue with a person that ignore all facts and is suffering from TDS.
I don't wish to contradict myself nor waste my time.

If the CIA is working against the President and not for him they should be eliminated.

My last word on the subject to you/
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
He was punished for exercising his right to free speech by having his clearance revoked.

If the idiot Trump had said we are now revoking clearances for all former employees who are not using them it would not be a problem. He is too stupid to understand that he himself linked the two and set himself up for a lawsuit.
Are you suggesting that Mr. Brennan (and any others) are entitled to have a clearance they have no need for?
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
No. It makes no difference what you say. The problem is the president is retaliating abasing individuals for criticizing him. If it was Obama you would be wetting your bed while clinging to your bible and ak-47
It is redundant to say those people are abasing individuals and that they criticize him.

Why are you so hung up on a man who hasn't been president in years?
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
I don't even know what a 'cuck' is.

Again, you show you don't know what a dictator is. A dictator would have had all of these people either imprisoned or put to death. All Trump did was what he had the authority to do - strip someone of their clearance. You people are acting like Brennan's life came to an end. Trump had no use for Brennan. Trump was NEVER going to call him in for advice on intel. Brennan had no need for the clearance. It's not a right. It's something the government grants to people and it's something they can take away.

Brennan's comments went beyond criticism. He accused the president of treason. Do you even understand what that means? Does it matter to you that someone of Brennan's influence to lie about such a serious crime? Do you realize this is akin to calling for Trump's death? You find this to be reasonable "criticism"? What did Trump do to merit this from a former CIA director?

Like I keep saying... there are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but to go to the absolute extremes of calling him every ____ist, and every ___phobe under the sun, and accuse him of treason is just insanity. Trump is a lot of things, but he's none of those. You people on the left only show your inability to manger your anger and hatred toward those you disagree with. And it really makes me not want to waste my time with people that can't be reasoned with.
No matter what you think of what Brenna said it is his right to say it. We live in a free country. The problem is not with Brennan. The problem is with a president who has convinced some of his citizens to believe its okay to stifle the free speech of those who criticize him.


I've told you dozens of times i don't hate Trumps s I don't know him personally. I have no anger towards him. I disagree with his policies and his behavior.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
No matter what you think of what Brenna said it is his right to say it. We live in a free country. The problem is not with Brennan. The problem is with a president who has convinced some of his citizens to believe its okay to stifle the free speech of those who criticize him.
What speech is being stifled?
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
What a terrible argument

I didn't need my car today to get to the office.

Do you think you should able to come take it from me?
You don't earn and pay for a security clearance - you are granted one in order to conduct your job.

What would be a more accurate analogy from you, if you want to use a car, would be, "I no longer work for your company, and you think that's a good reason to take my company-owned car??!!??"
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
You don't earn and pay for a security clearance - you are granted one in order to conduct your job.

What would be a more accurate analogy from you, if you want to use a car, would be, "I no longer work for your company, and you think that's a good reason to take my company-owned car??!!??"
You really should give up the analogies at this point

Ok well if it is not a punishment they why didn't Trump just revoke the clearance of everyone who no longer needs and uses it? It's clear he was doing it because he was trying to push and retaliate for Brennan using his freedom of speech
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
You really should give up the analogies at this point
:lmao: Because mine are accurate and yours aren't? A security clearance does not BELONG to a person - it's given to a person as a tool in order to do one's job.

Ok well if it is not a punishment they why didn't Trump just revoke the clearance of everyone who no longer needs and uses it? It's clear he was doing it because he was trying to push and retaliate for Brennan using his freedom of speech
And, that restricts Brennan's speech how, exactly?
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
:lmao: Because mine are accurate and yours aren't? A security clearance does not BELONG to a person - it's given to a person as a tool in order to do one's job.

And, that restricts Brennan's speech how, exactly?

You are restricted from committing murder by the knowledge that you will be incarcerated and possible put to death if you do.
 

Kyle

Having a Beer while the world burns!
PREMO Member
You are restricted from committing murder by the knowledge that you will be incarcerated and possible put to death if you do.

Then how do so many murders occur every year?
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
You are restricted from committing murder by the knowledge that you will be incarcerated and possible put to death if you do.
In the words of Trey Gowdy, that's a great answer to a question no one asked you.

How does not having a security clearance restrict Brennan's speech? He's not allowed to speak about things that are covered by the clearance - we know that to be true.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
In the words of Trey Gowdy, that's a great answer to a question no one asked you.

How does not having a security clearance restrict Brennan's speech? He's not allowed to speak about things that are covered by the clearance - we know that to be true.


I can't keep explain something to someone who couldn't even earn a GED. It's maddening.

Also that quote of mine in your signature is looking more and more likely every day isn't it?

Tune into a real news channel at 4pm today I doubt Fox news will even mention it
 
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