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[PsyOps]

Are you that blind? Literally minutes ago Trump’s lawyer plead guilty to
Count 8: Excessive Campaign Contribution
In a plea deal, he said that "in coordination and at the direction of a candidate for federal office" he kept information that would have been harmful to the candidate and the campaign from becoming public.“


Who do you think he was taking about?

CNN has the tapes of Cohen and Trump coordinated to payoff two women to keep his affairs secrets and use campaign funds to do so.

That right there is illegal and we have no idea what else there is.


What’s that old saying? “You can lead a Trump supporter to a guilty plea but you can’t make them read it”

And this has what to do with the topic at hand?

 

[This_person]

Just to be clear you earlier said Collusion is not a crime ,you don’t care if Trump colludedwith Putin and now you are saying that breaking campaign finance law isn’t illegal and possibly impeachable

Actually, I never said it isn't illegal or even possibly impeachable. I just wanted it clear you believe violating campaign finance law is treasonous.

Perhaps you are unaware, but Mr. Obama was convicted (not just accused of) campaign finance violations.

The FEC says the Obama campaign failed to disclose the sources of 1,300 large donations, which together accounted for nearly $1.9 million. Election Commission rules state campaigns must report donations of $1,000 or more within 20 days of Election Day.

Obama for America was also fined for "untimely resolution of excessive contributions," according to the conciliation agreement, FEC says. The campaign accepted more than $1.3 million in contributions that came from donors who had already given $46,000—the maximum allowed by FEC rules. The campaign eventually refunded the excess cash but did not do so within the 60-day window allotted for resolving such cases, FEC said.

In addition to failing to report big donors and excess donations in a timely manner, the Obama campaign incorrectly dated the filings dealing with $85 million in funds, the FEC claims. This error appears to have been primarily the result of one transfer to the campaign committee from the Obama Victory Fund, a fundraising group that includes money raised by the Democratic National Committee that is earmarked for the presidential race.

He was fined $375,000. That fine almost twice the amount of finance violation Trump is now accused of. If the fine is scalable, Trump should give the FEC a cup of coffee as payment for the amount he is accused of.

But, you are now on record for suggesting Mr. Obama was treasonous and should have been impeached! Thank you.

 

[PsyOps]

Because it is the action of a dictator not a president.

So we're clear on this... when a president exercises his authority to do something, it makes him a dictator? You do understand that a security clearance is not a right? In other words, Brennan is not entitled to this clearance. You do understand that the president can revoke anyone's clearance, and by doing so does not strip that person of any of their rights? You do understand that Brennan is still out there speaking out against Trump, and Trump has done nothing to stop this? You do understand that Brennan has been accused of no crime?

When Trump decides to abuse his power to shut Brennan (or anyone else) up - to stifle his liberties - then I will agree with you. When he throws Brennan in prison or has him executed, I will agree with you. THAT is the mark of a dictator.

 

[stgislander]

Actually, I never said it isn't illegal or even possibly impeachable. I just wanted it clear you believe violating campaign finance law is treasonous.

Perhaps you are unaware, but Mr. Obama was convicted (not just accused of) campaign finance violations.



He was fined $375,000. That fine almost twice the amount of finance violation Trump is now accused of. If the fine is scalable, Trump should give the FEC a cup of coffee as payment for the amount he is accused of.

But, you are now on record for suggesting Mr. Obama was treasonous and should have been impeached! Thank you.

 

[Gilligan]

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When Trump decides to abuse his power to shut Brennan (or anyone else) up - to stifle his liberties - then I will agree with you. THAT is the mark of a dictator.

And THAT is exactly what the Boy King Barry did, using the IRS, the EPA and other government agencies as his tools.

 

[This_person]

And THAT is exactly what the Boy King Barry did, using the IRS, the EPA and other government agencies as his tools.

 

[Sapidus]

Actually, I never said it isn't illegal or even possibly impeachable. I just wanted it clear you believe violating campaign finance law is treasonous.

Perhaps you are unaware, but Mr. Obama was convicted (not just accused of) campaign finance violations.



He was fined $375,000. That fine almost twice the amount of finance violation Trump is now accused of. If the fine is scalable, Trump should give the FEC a cup of coffee as payment for the amount he is accused of.

But, you are now on record for suggesting Mr. Obama was treasonous and should have been impeached! Thank you.

Again. Fining the campaign for illegal actions is entirely different than what Trump and Cohen did.


No one ever had a recording of Obama telling anyone to do anything illegal.

Obama's lawyer did not testify under oath he broke the law at Obama's behest.

 

[Sapidus]

So we're clear on this... when a president exercises his authority to do something, it makes him a dictator? You do understand that a security clearance is not a right? In other words, Brennan is not entitled to this clearance. You do understand that the president can revoke anyone's clearance, and by doing so does not strip that person of any of their rights? You do understand that Brennan is still out there speaking out against Trump, and Trump has done nothing to stop this? You do understand that Brennan has been accused of no crime?

When Trump decides to abuse his power to shut Brennan (or anyone else) up - to stifle his liberties - then I will agree with you. When he throws Brennan in prison or has him executed, I will agree with you. THAT is the mark of a dictator.

And threatening the free press is not the mark of a dictator? Revoking their access to the White house doesnt bother you? Continue making excuses as to why it is ok to punish private citizens and journalists for exercising their right to free speech.

You really are a good little bot. You would be turning in your jewish neighbors a fast as your little legs could carry you in nazi Germany

 

[This_person]

Again. Fining the campaign for illegal actions is entirely different thank what Trump and Cohen did.


No one ever had a recording of Obama telling anyone to do anything illegal.

Obama's lawyer did not testify under oath he broke the law at Obama's behest.

So, it's different because there's a recording of it?

You know John Edwards was found not guilty of the exact same type of crime, right? Should Trump ever be charged with anything here, it's likely he would get off, too.

but, you keep on defending Obama for almost $100,000,000 worth of campaign fraud while being thrilled at Trump's accusation of $280,000 fraud.

 

[This_person]

And threatening the free press is not the mark of a dictator?

Again, are you talking about when Obama tried to evict Fox News from the White House press pool, or what?

Revoking their access to the White house doesnt bother you? Continue making excuses as to why it is ok to punish private citizens and journalists for exercising their right to free speech.

WTF are you even talking about? Taking an unneeded security clearance is not a punishment, it is something that needed to be done. And, yes, to your repeated question, he should do others and has repeatedly said he is looking into that.

 

[Sapidus]

So, it's different because there's a recording of it?

You know John Edwards was found not guilty of the exact same type of crime, right? Should Trump ever be charged with anything here, it's likely he would get off, too.

but, you keep on defending Obama for almost $100,000,000 worth of campaign fraud while being thrilled at Trump's accusation of $280,000 fraud.

I never defended Obama. I said his campaign was fined for their illegal actions. You said you hate Obama so much you wanted to go back in time and fine them again.

We have Cohen under Oath testifying he broke the law at the direction of Trump.

Can you show me where in the fine of the Obama campaign there is something similar? If so I will agree they should be treated similarly. If not I believe Trump should be charged with a crime.

It's very simple when you take your emotions out of it and think about it logically.

 

[Sapidus]

Again, are you talking about when Obama tried to evict Fox News from the White House press pool, or what?



WTF are you even talking about? Taking an unneeded security clearance is not a punishment, it is something that needed to be done. And, yes, to your repeated question, he should do others and has repeatedly said he is looking into that.

Unless he does it to everyone he is still signing out people who speak out against him.

Being a small government anti tyrannically government tin foil hatter you would think this would bother you. But you are a hypocrite first and foremost

 

[PsyOps]

Unless he does it to everyone he is still signing out people who speak out against him.

Being a small government anti tyrannically government tin foil hatter you would think this would bother you. But you are a hypocrite first and foremost

Brennan didn't just speak out against Trump. He accused Trump of treason. You do realize treason is a crime? You do realize this crime is punishable by death? Do you even realize the severity of accusing someone of such a serious crime? You do realize, making such a false accusation, coming from someone like Brennan demands that we can't take anything he says seriously? This demands that his clearance be removed. He can't be trusted. It's just that simple.

 

[GURPS]

And threatening the free press is not the mark of a dictator?

Be Specific, where has the Gov. aka Trump Administration Stopped, Blocked, Jailed, or otherwise Restricted ANY Reporter or Journalist form publishing a News Story ?

Revoking their access to the White house doesn't bother you?

The 'Press' has a Constitutional Right to PUBLISH / Write / Print / POST Hand Bills anything they want - There is NO RIGHT to White House Access you are invited as a Guest and expected to behave YOURSELF 4 pages of Google Searches failed to turn up any Trump Revokes White House Press Access Stories ...

Continue making excuses as to why it is ok to punish private citizens and journalists for exercising their right to free speech.

Be Specific, where has the Gov. aka Trump Administration Stopped, Blocked, Jailed, or otherwise Restricted ANY Reporter or Journalist form publishing a News Story ?

You really are a good little bot. You would be turning in your jewish neighbors a fast as your little legs could carry you in nazi Germany

Ah Yes the ad hominem Attack 'You Are A Fascist'


NO Sappy, that would be YOUR AntiFA Buddies ...

 

[Sapidus]

Brennan didn't just speak out against Trump. He accused Trump of treason. You do realize treason is a crime? You do realize this crime is punishable by death? Do you even realize the severity of accusing someone of such a serious crime? You do realize, making such a false accusation, coming from someone like Brennan demands that we can't take anything he says seriously? This demands that his clearance be removed. He can't be trusted. It's just that simple.

You do realize that is exercising his free speech right?

Is the word treason not covered by free speech?

Why do you keep excusing the president of the country punishing a private citizen? That is more disturbing and should eb a reason not to trust Trump. He is so thin skinned he can't rise above it and ignore it like past presidents, He has to retaliate?

 

[This_person]

We have Cohen under Oath testifying he broke the law at the direction of Trump.

Can you show me where in the fine of the Obama campaign there is something similar? If so I will agree they should be treated similarly. If not I believe Trump should be charged with a crime.

Well, as of now, Trump's campaign has been accused of a crime, and the Obama campaign was convicted.

Maybe Trump should, if there's a there there.

 

[This_person]

Unless he does it to everyone he is still signing out people who speak out against him.

Being a small government anti tyrannically government tin foil hatter you would think this would bother you. But you are a hypocrite first and foremost

You didn't answer the first question, about Obama and Fox News being threatened with eviction from the press pool.

Or, maybe it was James Rosen in particular you were talking about when Obama had him "wiretapped".

He probably should do it to everyone faster. As in, determine if the person with the clearance is going to be called for their opinion, or whether the person's clearance will transfer to some contractor's responsibility to maintain, or pull it.

Brennan made himself a target by monetizing his clearance, which he currently has zero need to keep. It brought up this great question.

As a small-government person, I certainly agree clearances should be removed from all personnel at the time they leave government.

 

[This_person]

Brennan didn't just speak out against Trump. He accused Trump of treason. You do realize treason is a crime? You do realize this crime is punishable by death? Do you even realize the severity of accusing someone of such a serious crime? You do realize, making such a false accusation, coming from someone like Brennan demands that we can't take anything he says seriously? This demands that his clearance be removed. He can't be trusted. It's just that simple.

Of course he does - Sappy called Obama's actions treasonous. Sappy surely isn't some knee-jerk, name-calling, reactive liberal - he puts thought into his statements.

 

[This_person]

You do realize that is exercising his free speech right?

Is the word treason not covered by free speech?

It is exercising his free speech right, and it is covered by 1A. It also has not been curtailed one tiny little bit.

Why do you keep excusing the president of the country punishing a private citizen? That is more disturbing and should eb a reason not to trust Trump. He is so thin skinned he can't rise above it and ignore it like past presidents, He has to retaliate?

I'll ask you one more time - what purpose does it serve the government to maintain Mr. Brennan's security clearance when he has no government position, nor will he ever be called for consultation since he's a known liar?

 

[Sapidus]

You didn't answer the first question, about Obama and Fox News being threatened with eviction from the press pool.

Or, maybe it was James Rosen in particular you were talking about when Obama had him "wiretapped".

He probably should do it to everyone faster. As in, determine if the person with the clearance is going to be called for their opinion, or whether the person's clearance will transfer to some contractor's responsibility to maintain, or pull it.

Brennan made himself a target by monetizing his clearance, which he currently has zero need to keep. It brought up this great question.

As a small-government person, I certainly agree clearances should be removed from all personnel at the time they leave government.

Well that is an entirely different discussion and argument that removing the clearance of one individual who criticizes the president.