2A from a different perspective.

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Now as I read this it’s not defining arms as anything except the generic, “Arms are any implement or device that is used to deter, threaten, and inflict physical damage, harm, or kill”. So technically arms are also knives. Now knives have a longer and more thorough history of usage back to the days of the constitution and never was there a restriction on the length of the blade. Presently most states and courts accept a folding blade up to three inches the constitutional test is arms (weapons) that are in common use (1) by law-abiding citizens, (2) for lawful purposes, get second amendment protection.

Would this say that a 6” belt knife is legal by this criteria?
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Now as I read this it’s not defining arms as anything except the generic, “Arms are any implement or device that is used to deter, threaten, and inflict physical damage, harm, or kill”.


Knives to Nuclear Weapons
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Now as I read this it’s not defining arms as anything except the generic, “Arms are any implement or device that is used to deter, threaten, and inflict physical damage, harm, or kill”. So technically arms are also knives. Now knives have a longer and more thorough history of usage back to the days of the constitution and never was there a restriction on the length of the blade. Presently most states and courts accept a folding blade up to three inches the constitutional test is arms (weapons) that are in common use (1) by law-abiding citizens, (2) for lawful purposes, get second amendment protection.

Would this say that a 6” belt knife is legal by this criteria?

Sorry, I must correct you here. The original text of the 2nd Amendment is .....

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

One but just research old books from the period. The three comma changes began to occur near the end of the 1800's into the 1900's.

Even a sword is considered arms.

Also, when SCOTUS hears a 2nd Amendment case and considers any arms restriction law prior to the ratification of the Bill of Rights, (such as a colony's arms restrictive law), they are in the wrong, since, within the body of the Constitution itself, there is the proclamation that the US Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. Therefore, at the moment, when three-fourths of the states had ratified the Bill of Rights, on December 15, 1791, the 2nd became the Supreme Law of the Land as well. At that moment, every law pre December 15, 1791, became null and void as if such arms restrictive laws never existed.

"Presently most states and courts accept a folding blade up to three inches the constitutional test is arms (weapons) that are in common use (1) by law-abiding citizens, (2) for lawful purposes, get second amendment protection."

Most States and courts are very wrong, and compromised. Actually, it is an ignorant people that allow these transgressions. This "Common use" BS is just that, BS. Any defensive weapon, whether made in a manufacturing plant, or home made, or an easy to carry new creation defensive weapon never seen before, is considered as an "arm".

The Constitutional test verbiage is another BS way to encroach on personal freedoms. There is no test, nor is it necessary, due the simplicity of the 2nd's text; "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Nothing here is hard to understand. There is no need for any interpretation. It is as straight forward as can be.

Any law restricting the length of a knife one carries is unconstitutional.
 
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