Where's the "fire and fury"?

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Fire and Fury was in response to NORK threatening a US possession (Guam), under that scenario an attack upon Guam, or the firing of ballistic missiles toward Guam, could have resulted in an immediate executive response IAW the War Powers Resolution. Firing a missile over the independent country of Japan could not initiate an immediate executive response, for any response the Congress would have to declare war or grant specific statutory authority for the executive to use military force.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Fire and Fury was in response to NORK threatening a US possession (Guam), under that scenario an attack upon Guam, or the firing of ballistic missiles toward Guam, could have resulted in an immediate executive response IAW the War Powers Resolution. Firing a missile over the independent country of Japan could not initiate an immediate executive response, for any response the Congress would have to declare war or grant specific statutory authority for the executive to use military force.

Easy enough for him to go to congress and ask for that authority.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
We have plenty of strategic bases and military assets in Japan. Could be at us as well as anything.

Japan is not really "independent" from the military point of view. When we set their government up post WWII, we said that they could only have a defensive military.

That's why we're able to be there.

I don't believe fire and fury is a reasonable response to the joke they fired.
 

FireBrand

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'Fire and Fury' baby, 'Fire and Fury'! Like the world has never seen. And still hasn't.
In the very video that you posted, President Trump eludes to "threats to the United States". Well just FYI, Japan IS NOT the United States !
You obviously lack in comprehension skills or maybe just another non-trumper (oops, same thing).
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
'Fire and Fury' baby, 'Fire and Fury'! Like the world has never seen. And still hasn't.

So you think that if NK threatens *any* country, we are obligated to nuke them? Since when is the whole world our problem? Especially since Trump has said specifically the opposite? Or are you being geographically challenged and don't realize Japan is a sovereign nation and not our territory?

But wouldn't it be something if the little fat kid was the catalyst for WWIII?
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
Since when is the whole world our problem?

I often ask that question. Part of the World hates US, and wants to see the demise of America. And, part of the World looks to US for help. That is why America has become the most powerful country in the World. What is done with that power, at this point, is yet to be seen. God bless America.
 

FireBrand

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I often ask that question. Part of the World hates US, and wants to see the demise of America. And, part of the World looks to US for help. That is why America has become the most powerful country in the World. What is done with that power, at this point, is yet to be seen. God bless America.
Oh J F Christ, smoke another joint ~~
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
So you think that if NK threatens *any* country, we are obligated to nuke them? Since when is the whole world our problem? Especially since Trump has said specifically the opposite? Or are you being geographically challenged and don't realize Japan is a sovereign nation and not our territory?

But wouldn't it be something if the little fat kid was the catalyst for WWIII?

You need to brush up on your history. As part of the agreements at the end of WWII japan was forbidden to stand up a true military. As a result they depend on the US to provide for their defenses. That's one of the reasons we have our forces stationed there.
So firing a missile over a country we have agreed to protect is what happened. That sounds like a threat to me
 

PJumper

New Member
Easy enough for him to go to congress and ask for that authority.

You do realized that the US also have to take in consideration where our 2 close Allies (South Korea and Japan) stand, right. Any retaliatory attack by the US would draw those 2 countries into the fray as well.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
You do realized that the US also have to take in consideration where our 2 close Allies (South Korea and Japan) stand, right. Any retaliatory attack by the US would draw those 2 countries into the fray as well.

Shouldn't we think about that BEFORE our president makes ridiculous threats of fire and fury?
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Shouldn't we think about that BEFORE our president makes ridiculous threats of fire and fury?

Why do you hate America so much and love nuclear war?

That's a real question. Or is it that your mindless hatred of Donald Trump is so all-consuming that you can't think straight or see anything else?

Which is it: do you hate America and love war; or are you a mindless hate-filled bot? Because it's one or the other.
 
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