BREAKING: Democratic ‘FISA Memo’ Released. Here's What It Says.

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The Democratic memo alleges that the Republicans’ memo was designed to undermine the FBI and DOJ as well as the Special Counsel, and Congress' investigations. The counter-memo claims that the Republican memo risked "public exposure of sensitive sources and methods for no legitimate purpose."

BREAKING NEWS: The Democratic FISA memo has just been released - Full memo - Pages 1-4. pic.twitter.com/tFLz1gZL0O

— Fox News (@FoxNews) February 24, 2018

The Democratic memo claims that there were no abuses made in obtaining the FISA warrant to spy on former Trump campaign official Carter Page. The memo also notes that the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation began prior to the FBI receiving the Democrat-funded anti-Trump dossier – which the Republican memo already stated.



BREAKING: Democratic ‘FISA Memo’ Released. Here's What It Says.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Nunes spent a significant amount of time taking the mainstream media to task for its slanted coverage of he and his Republican colleagues’ efforts to bring their findings about FBI and DOJ abuses to the public.

“What’s you’ve really seen is the collapse of the media,” Nunes argued. “Most Americans are understanding that no matter where you’re getting your news from, it’s going to be biased.” The California congressman went on to talk about how clickbait journalism and a “degradation” in the quality of reporting had seriously impacted the press’s reputation and credibility with the American people.

Nunes spoke at length about exactly what he thought the media has not been covering fairly, putting particular emphasis on his committee’s findings that top FBI and DOJ officials used the Clinton and DNC-funded Steele dossier to get FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign without informing judges about the document’s source of monetary support.

Despite such measures being taken by the Obama administration, Nunes told CPAC that the only “clear evidence” of collusion between Americans and Russians that his committee had seen showed Hillary Clinton working with former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele and his Russian sources to dig up “dirt” on Donald Trump and then use those Russians’ allegations to improperly obtain a FISA warrant. Nunes affirmed that it was Congress’s duty to see that such abuses be exposed. “The American people deserve to know the truth…even without the support of the media, we’ll get the facts,” he reassured the audience.



Devin Nunes: 'Clear Evidence' Democrats Trying to 'Cover Up' Collusion With Russians, FISA Abuse
 

Midnightrider

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All I can piece together from the memo: Schiff really be mad !

You aren’t very good at reading then.....

A couple of the big takeaways:

The first FISA application to surveil Carter page was issued weeks prior to them having the dossier

The DOJ accurately described Steele’s relationship with the FBI, they disclosed the fact that Steele was terminated and why, and they disclosed that his work was contacted by his opponent threw an intermediary with the express purpose to gain dirt on DJT

Page was being watched for years because of his relationships with known Russian spies.


And seriously, what kind of leader chooses guys like this to work on his campaign? Was there no vetting whatsoever?
 

Hijinx

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The DOJ accurately described Steele’s relationship with the FBI, they disclosed the fact that Steele was terminated and why, and they disclosed that his work was contacted by his opponent threw an intermediary with the express purpose to gain dirt on DJT

So the Democrats admit that Steele was hired by Hillary and the democrats to conjure up this Russian BS?
 

officeguy

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The first FISA application to surveil Carter page was issued weeks prior to them having the dossier

We knew that.

The DOJ accurately described Steele’s relationship with the FBI, they disclosed the fact that Steele was terminated and why, and they disclosed that his work was contacted by his opponent threw an intermediary with the express purpose to gain dirt on DJT

Schiff has leaked that spin for the past couple of weeks, nothing new.

Page was being watched for years because of his relationships with known Russian spies.

'being watched for years' is a misrepresentation of what happened. There was a prior FISA warrant, when it turned out that he didn't take the Russians bait the investigation ended.

And seriously, what kind of leader chooses guys like this to work on his campaign? Was there no vetting whatsoever?

I don't see anything that would have disqualified him from working in the campaign. He was brought on for his russian contacts and he exercised those during the campaign.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
I didn't see anything in it that refuted the fact that, without the dossier, there would have been no more FISA warrants. Nothing in the memo about any "collusion" either.

:yawn:
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
I didn't see anything in it that refuted the fact that, without the dossier, there would have been no more FISA warrants. Nothing in the memo about any "collusion" either.

:yawn:
Bwhahahaha

Of course you didn’t. But you are the same guy who is all of the sudden a big fan of gun control because your orange master is proposing it.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
We knew that.



Schiff has leaked that spin for the past couple of weeks, nothing new.



'being watched for years' is a misrepresentation of what happened. There was a prior FISA warrant, when it turned out that he didn't take the Russians bait the investigation ended.



I don't see anything that would have disqualified him from working in the campaign. He was brought on for his russian contacts and he exercised those during the campaign.

So you are saying that we already knew the Nunes memo was BS? Because his memo said the exact opposite
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
The Democrat memo doesn't refute anything that was in the Nunes mamo, it just bitches about it.

Except for all of that crap about the dossier being used as the basis for fisa warrants. But you wouldn’t know as you haven’t read either on3. :yay:
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
You aren’t very good at reading then.....

A couple of the big takeaways:

The first FISA application to surveil Carter page was issued weeks prior to them having the dossier

As far as what I remember (which I'm trying to find) is, there were several FISA requests to surveil Page, but were turned down. It wasn't until they provided the dossier that it was granted. According this source, and other sources:

“Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information,”
 

officeguy

Well-Known Member
“Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information,”

He now claims that he didn't say that.

Or that he didn't mean that.

Or that he is being quoted out of context.

Bitch set him up !
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
Claiming the Dossier wasn't the basis for the FISA warrant is a phucking lie and BS.

How would you know, you haven’t read any of it.

BTW, it’s pretty clear from the new memo that several other trump campaign officials were under surveillance for their contacts with Russia well before the dossier. Page and papa both are listed and their appears to be two or three more in the redactions.
The info gained from months of watching page, papa, and others actually meeting with Russians and lie about it is what was used to get the warrants.

BTW, you have to wonder why those names were redacted. Why wouldn’t trump want everyone to see how far the fbi went to spy on his campaign and his associates
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
How would you know, you haven’t read any of it.

BTW, it’s pretty clear from the new memo that several other trump campaign officials were under surveillance for their contacts with Russia well before the dossier. Page and papa both are listed and their appears to be two or three more in the redactions.
The info gained from months of watching page, papa, and others actually meeting with Russians and lie about it is what was used to get the warrants.

BTW, you have to wonder why those names were redacted. Why wouldn’t trump want everyone to see how far the fbi went to spy on his campaign and his associates

How soon do you think Trump will be charged?
 
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