Kashuv Questioned By School Security For Visiting Gun Range

[GURPS]

Kashuv was quickly called out for visiting a gun range and posting about it by a variety of other students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. But that wasn’t the end of the story. When Kyle went to school today, his principal informed him that other students had been upset by his posts, but that he hadn’t done anything wrong. But according to Kyle, in the middle of the morning, events took a different turn:

Near the end of third period, my teacher got a call from the office saying I need to go down and see a Mr. Greenleaf. I didn’t know Mr. Greenleaf, but it turned out that he was an armed school resource officer. I went down and found him, and he escorted me to his office. Then a second security officer walked in and sat behind me. Both began questioning me intensely. First, they began berating my tweet, although neither of them had read it; then they began aggressively asking questions about who I went to the range with, whose gun we used, about my father, etc. They were incredibly condescending and rude.

Then a third officer from the Broward County Sheriff’s Office walked in, and began asking me the same questions again. At that point, I asked whether I could record the interview. They said no. I asked if I had done anything wrong. Again, they answered no. I asked why I was there. One said, “Don’t get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?”

They continued to question me aggressively, though they could cite nothing I had done wrong. They kept calling me “the pro-Second Amendment kid.” I was shocked and honestly, scared. It definitely felt like they were attempting to intimidate me.

I was treated like a criminal for no reason other than having gone to the gun range and posted on social media about it.​

BREAKING: Anti-Gun Control Parkland Survivor Kyle Kashuv Questioned By School Security For Visiting Gun Range With His Father



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[PsyOps]

Now parents have to start teaching their kids about their right to remain silent, and his right to have either a parent or lawyer with him before any questioning occurs. I'd say this form of detention and interrogation was illegal. A violation of his privacy and civil rights. This was something that happened off school grounds, not during school hours, and is really none of anyone's business.

 

[PrchJrkr]

It sounds like Broward County needs some leadership and proper training. Had this been my son, someone's head would be rolling.

 

[Starman]

Now parents have to start teaching their kids about their right to remain silent, and his right to have either a parent or lawyer with him before any questioning occurs. I'd say this form of detention and interrogation was illegal. A violation of his privacy and civil rights. This was something that happened off school grounds, not during school hours, and is really none of anyone's business.

Parents should be teaching that from the minute the kids are able to form words. I often joke that my kids first words were, "Am I free to go?".

No violation occurred, though -- there's nothing in this article to suggest the contact was anything other than voluntary.

 

[PsyOps]

Parents should be teaching that from the minute the kids are able to form words. I often joke that my kids first words were, "Am I free to go?".

No violation occurred, though -- there's nothing in this article to suggest the contact was anything other than voluntary.

Voluntary on whose part? The kid was called to the report to the armed resource officer's' office. How do you determine this is voluntary? Once he's pulled in that office he is detained. Then a second officer shows up; as a means to further intimidate the kid. According to the kid he was intensely questioned (interrogated), berated him, and were condescending and rude. Then they started asking questions that were none of their business: who he went with to the range with, whose firearm was it, questions about his father... All of this, none of their business.

Then, to further intimidate him, a county sheriff shows up.

There was nothing voluntary about this at all. They even admitted he did nothing wrong. Then why was he even called to this office and questioned? If this was my kid, I would have been up there demanding these 'resource officers' to, at a minimum, be fired. Then I'd be likely to report them to authorities to see if any crimes were committed.

 

[Midnightrider]

Voluntary on whose part? The kid was called to the report to the armed resource officer's' office. How do you determine this is voluntary? Once he's pulled in that office he is detained. Then a second officer shows up; as a means to further intimidate the kid. According to the kid he was intensely questioned (interrogated), berated him, and were condescending and rude. Then they started asking questions that were none of their business: who he went with to the range with, whose firearm was it, questions about his father... All of this, none of their business.

Then, to further intimidate him, a county sheriff shows up.

There was nothing voluntary about this at all. They even admitted he did nothing wrong. Then why was he even called to this office and questioned?

So you are not of the opinion that broward county, the school, and everyone else should have intervened with Cruz? Because this is what that looks like. You are going to have the police getting involved in a lot of cases where no crime has yet to be committed.

 

[Starman]

Voluntary on whose part? The kid was called to the report to the armed resource officer's' office. How do you determine this is voluntary? Once he's pulled in that office he is detained. Then a second officer shows up; as a means to further intimidate the kid. According to the kid he was intensely questioned (interrogated), berated him, and were condescending and rude. Then they started asking questions that were none of their business: who he went with to the range with, whose firearm was it, questions about his father... All of this, none of their business.

Then, to further intimidate him, a county sheriff shows up.

There was nothing voluntary about this at all. They even admitted he did nothing wrong. Then why was he even called to this office and questioned? If this was my kid, I would have been up there demanding these 'resource officers' to, at a minimum, be fired. Then I'd be likely to report them to authorities to see if any crimes were committed.

It was voluntary because he appeared to answer their questions. As such, no rights were violated; they were given up willingly. There's zero evidence he was detained, i.e., that he would be prevented from leaving freely.

Cops and other government authorities ask questions all the time that is "none of their business". If one answers them, then that's on them.

 

[GURPS]

not even remotely the same thing .... no one has ever accused Kashuv of any wrong doing, the Police have NOT been to his house some 80 times

this is all about Kashuv bucking the trend of the Majority or his classmates ..... oooo we are scared Kashuv went to a Gun Range


wanna be taken Seriously Grow the #### Up ... don't be scared by a picture

 

[Starman]

So you are not of the opinion that broward county, the school, and everyone else should have intervened with Cruz? Because this is what that looks like. You are going to have the police getting involved in a lot of cases where no crime has yet to be committed.

Quite the Catch-22 they've talked themselves into, eh?

 

[GURPS]

As such, no rights were violated; they were given up willingly.

yeah I seriously doubt that ...... with 2 Armed SROs and a County Sheriff Deputy showing up

.... perhaps 'technically' but in a room with 3 cops ...


I doubt Kashuv felt anything was voluntary

 

[Starman]

yeah I seriously doubt that ...... with 2 Armed SROs and a County Sheriff Deputy showing up

.... perhaps 'technically' but in a room with 3 cops ...


I doubt Kashuv felt anything was voluntary

Well, "rights" are curtailed a bit in schools anyway, for better or worse. That's why schools can enforce dress codes against t-shirts that they deem "offensive" while in regular society that usually isn't a problem.

But it doesn't matter how he "felt". You always, always, always, STFU when talking to the cops. It can *never* help you and almost always hurts you.

 

[Midnightrider]

not even remotely the same thing .... no one has ever accused Kashuv of any wrong doing, the Police have NOT been to his house some 80 times

this is all about Kashuv bucking the trend of the Majority or his classmates ..... oooo we are scared Kashuv went to a Gun Range


wanna be taken Seriously Grow the #### Up ... don't be scared by a picture

They just did, and the police looked into it.

How do you know how any times this kid has had contact with the police?

 

[GURPS]

But it doesn't matter how he "felt". You always, always, always, STFU when talking to the cops.

You and I know this .... it is my contention they cornered Kashuv in the office and questioned him ...

 

[Hijinx]

I don't believe that any of these cops did this on their own.
They were told to do it.
The school authorities are rightfully nervous after the killings there, but they went off half cocked IMO.

Was it to intimidate this kid? Damned right it was.
He isn't going along with the program and they want him to shut up.

 

[GURPS]

They just did, and the police looked into it.

How do you know how any times this kid has had contact with the police?

Critical Thinking Really Is Not Your Strong Suit Is It .... it otherwise would have been splashed all over the news

 

[Starman]

You and I know this .... it is my contention they cornered Kashuv in the office and questioned him ...

He tweeted how much he learned about the 2A during his outing. It's too bad the rest of our rights couldn't be conveyed to him.

 

[GURPS]

He tweeted how much he learned about the 2A during his outing. It's too bad the rest of our rights couldn't be conveyed to him.

Hopefully he will have another educating day with his Father and A Lawyer

 

[terbear1225]

Now parents have to start teaching their kids about their right to remain silent, and his right to have either a parent or lawyer with him before any questioning occurs. I'd say this form of detention and interrogation was illegal. A violation of his privacy and civil rights. This was something that happened off school grounds, not during school hours, and is really none of anyone's business.

this is the problem. We have mandated that schools must step in to prevent cyberbullying that takes place off school rounds and outside of school hours. We expect schools to respond to things posted on social media at any time during the day. The line between what is a school's responsibility and what isn't has become very blurry. I don't believe that what happened in this case was right but I think you will see more and more of it as schools try to cover their own butts and avoid legal ramifications if they don't respond and something does happen.

 

[PsyOps]

So you are not of the opinion that broward county, the school, and everyone else should have intervened with Cruz? Because this is what that looks like. You are going to have the police getting involved in a lot of cases where no crime has yet to be committed.

Intervened for what? They said he did nothing wrong. What kids do out of school is none of the school's business. If they are going to pull him in like this and interrogate him, he should at least had his parents there.

 

[PsyOps]

It was voluntary because he appeared to answer their questions. As such, no rights were violated; they were given up willingly. There's zero evidence he was detained, i.e., that he would be prevented from leaving freely.

Cops and other government authorities ask questions all the time that is "none of their business". If one answers them, then that's on them.

Of course he answered their questions. They more-or-less ganged up on him. He's a stinking kid and doesn't even know what his rights are. We don't know his age based on this article, but if he's under 18, then it's not on him for answering; it's on them for abusing their authority.