The GOP Convention Guide to the Dogs of War

[Sparx]

The GOP Convention Guide to the Dogs of War

Democrats:
* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-'47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V,Purple Hearts.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-1953.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII, receiving the Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars,and Soldier's Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.

Republicans:
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Vin Weber: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Jon Kyl: did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as aviator and flight instructor.
* G.W. Bush: six-year Nat'l Guard commitment (in four).
* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.
* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Bob Dole: an honorable veteran.
* Chuck Hagel: two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam.
* Duke Cunningham: nominated for Medal of Honor, Navy Cross, Silver Stars, Air Medals, Purple Hearts.
* Jeff Sessions: Army Reserves, 1973-1986
* Colin Powell: Long, distinguished career in military.
* Wayne Gilchrest: USMC in Vietnam; wounded in action.
* Don Nickles: Biography does not list military service.
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: did not serve.
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. Knee, although continued in NFL for 8 years.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* John Engler: did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.
* G.H.W. Bush: Pilot in WWII.
* Tom Ridge: Bronze Star for Valor in Vietnam.
* Sam Johnson: Combat in Korea and Vietnam, POW in Hanoi.
* Ted Stevens: WWII pilot, DFCs, two Air Medals.
* John Warner: Served in the Navy during WWII as a RM3
* Heather Wilson: Air Force 1978-1989
* Gerald Ford: Navy, WWII

Pundits & Preachers:
* Sean Hannity: did not serve.
* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
* Michael Savage: did not serve.
* George Will: did not serve.
* Chris Matthews: did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
* John Wayne: did not serve.
* Pat Robertson: not, as claimed, a "combat veteran." Actually a "Liquor Officer."
* Bill Kristol: did not serve.
* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: did not serve.
* Michael Medved: did not serve.
* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
* Ted Nugent: did not serve.
* Ollie North: At least he served.

 

[vraiblonde]

You forgot a few:

William Jefferson Clinton: did not serve
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: did not serve
Secretary of Defense William Cohen: did not serve
Senator John Edwards: did not serve

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/articles/sidebyside-military.html <---Click here!!!

 

[dustin]

and the point to this list is???

 

[FromTexas]

The GOP Convention Guide to the Dogs of War

Democrats:
* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-'47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V,Purple Hearts.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-1953.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII, receiving the Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars,and Soldier's Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.

Republicans:
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as aviator and flight instructor.
* G.W. Bush: six-year Nat'l Guard commitment (in four).
* Ronald Reagan: served
* B-1 Bob Dornan: enlisted
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Bob Dole: an honorable veteran.
* Chuck Hagel: two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam.
* Duke Cunningham: nominated for Medal of Honor, Navy Cross, Silver Stars, Air Medals, Purple Hearts.
* Jeff Sessions: Army Reserves, 1973-1986
* Colin Powell: Long, distinguished career in military.
* Wayne Gilchrest: USMC in Vietnam; wounded in action.
* Dan Quayle: Indiana National Guard.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard
* G.H.W. Bush: Pilot in WWII.
* Tom Ridge: Bronze Star for Valor in Vietnam.
* Sam Johnson: Combat in Korea and Vietnam, POW in Hanoi.
* Ted Stevens: WWII pilot, DFCs, two Air Medals.
* John Warner: Served in the Navy during WWII as a RM3
* Heather Wilson: Air Force 1978-1989
* Gerald Ford: Navy, WWII

Hmmm, about the same number of military served between the lists (dropping pundits) with no real focus in the same time frame, etc...

Would you like me to point out the holes... like where are all the dems who haven't served? Why is it taken to a major point to spell out what jobs some of the Reps held but not mention some of the non-combat roles some of the dems held? A list of Rep pundits but no list of all those Dem pundits...
Very one sided to paint a picture without noticing the obvious discrepancies.

 

[Otter]

Would you like me to point out the holes... like where are all the dems who haven't served? Why is it taken to a major point to spell out what jobs some of the Reps held but not mention some of the non-combat roles some of the dems held? A list of Rep pundits but no list of all those Dem pundits...
Very one sided to paint a picture without noticing the obvious discrepancies.

You expected something other than one-sided from Sparx??:shrug: Are you high?

 

[Kyle]

You forgot a few:

William Jefferson Clinton: Ran like a scalded dog.
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: did not serve
Secretary of Defense William Cohen: did not serve
Senator John Edwards: Too busy chasing ambulances

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/articles/sidebyside-military.html <---Click here!!!

Fixed a couple of them for you Vrai.

 

[Bruzilla]

John Wayne????????

What about Bugala, Combs, or "The Rajun Cajun?"

Lastly, wasn't it the Democrats who made the case (ad nauseum) that being in the military didn't mean diddly when it came to managing the military during the Clinton era?

 

[Kyle]

... Lastly, wasn't it the Democrats who made the case (ad nauseum) that being in the military didn't mean diddly when it came to managing the military during the Clinton era?

Don't you know that only applies to Democrats. Pay attention to the memos.

 

[Toxick]

and the point to this list is???

Isn't it obvious?

Democrats are all honorable men and women who serve in the U.S. military and are heros and champions.

Republicans are all yellow-bellied anti-war, anti-military cowards.


At least that what this blanket generalization is supposed to imply. Right, Sparx?





(I await patiently for your smartass dodge or for you to completely ignore this).

 

[vraiblonde]

John Wayne????????

Yeah, that damn John Wayne - how dare he tell us how to vote in the 2004 election when he didn't even serve in Vietnam. Such a preacher that guy is.

 

[Ken King]

Hey Sparx, did you serve?

 

[Sparx]

Yeah, I served. US Navy 81-85. Submarine tender in Groton CT.

As long as I keep getting WAY more views to these post than negative replies I figure I'm making an impact no matter what you all think about it.
As Martha say's, IT'S A GOOD THING.

 

[Bruzilla]

Yeah, I served. US Navy 81-85. Submarine tender in Groton CT.

As long as I keep getting WAY more views to these post than negative replies I figure I'm making an impact no matter what you all think about it.
As Martha say's, IT'S A GOOD THING.

A sub tender in Groton? What kind of pansie wimp are you! During that time I was flying combat missions off of Lebanon and Syria! I was crossing Libya's "Line of Death" and dodging Libyian MiGs! I was getting shot at by forces of half the nations in the Middle East! You say you served when all you did was hang out in Groton while the real sailors went off on ballistic missile patrols! What a wuss!!!

Isn't Democratic reasoning a wonderful thing.

 

[Toxick]

Yeah, I served. US Navy 81-85. Submarine tender in Groton CT.

As long as I keep getting WAY more views to these post than negative replies I figure I'm making an impact no matter what you all think about it.
As Martha say's, IT'S A GOOD THING.

You'd probably get a lot less negative replies - at least from me - if you'd bother to talk to people, respond to questions, engage in actual argument and discussion, and try to be anything other than a shitstirring bomb-n-runner whose follow-ups are lame one-liners.


On the other hand, maybe you like it when people throw proverbial rotten tomatoes at you.

 

[pvineswinger]

Glad to see that you have had such a "distinguished" military career... :tool:
I guess that makes you the expert.

Yeah, I served. US Navy 81-85. Submarine tender in Groton CT.

As long as I keep getting WAY more views to these post than negative replies I figure I'm making an impact no matter what you all think about it.
As Martha say's, IT'S A GOOD THING.

 

[Sparx]

A sub tender in Groton? What kind of pansie wimp are you! During that time I was flying combat missions off of Lebanon and Syria! I was crossing Libya's "Line of Death" and dodging Libyian MiGs! I was getting shot at by forces of half the nations in the Middle East! You say you served when all you did was hang out in Groton while the real sailors went off on ballistic missile patrols! What a wuss!!!

Isn't Democratic reasoning a wonderful thing.

F-Off Pal, Wasn't my choice either but somebody's got to fix them boats. The Fulton was in the battle of Midway. I'm not the one who put it in Groton.

 

[vraiblonde]

F-Off Pal, Wasn't my choice either but somebody's got to fix them boats. The Fulton was in the battle of Midway. I'm not the one who put it in Groton.

*zing* That's the sound of a point going over someone's head.

 

[Sparx]

You'd probably get a lot less negative replies - at least from me - if you'd bother to talk to people, respond to questions, engage in actual argument and discussion, and try to be anything other than a shitstirring bomb-n-runner whose follow-ups are lame one-liners.


On the other hand, maybe you like it when people throw proverbial rotten tomatoes at you.

Hey, I work for a living. It's a rare time when I get a chance to post here at all. How many of you are spending your whole work day doing this stuff?

 

[pvineswinger]

If you have no "leg" to stand on (like a distinguished career, such as John McCain's) don't knock anyone else's service.

F-Off Pal, Wasn't my choice either but somebody's got to fix them boats. The Fulton was in the battle of Midway. I'm not the one who put it in Groton.

 

[pvineswinger]

Some of us work shift work.

Hey, I work for a living. It's a rare time when I get a chance to post here at all. How many of you are spending your whole work day doing this stuff?