We Going to War With China???

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Bruzilla

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Anyone else been checking the news out of the PROC lately? There seems to be an unexplainable drop in consumption of petrolleum products over the past few months. There have been double-digit increases for a long time, and now there's almost a decrease. The PROC government was suppossed to be building a strategic petroleum reserve, but no one seems to think that there would be that level of fuel diversion from industry to fill it at this point, nor do they think the project is far enough along.

What's really worrying is that the shortage is mainly for diesel fuel. There are stories of lines of trucks, outside of closed down gas stations, that there's just no diesel fuel for. So what's causing the decline in consumption? There are the power plants, and speculation that power companies are decreasing consumption because of state price controls on what they can charge for power, but if the power plants are decreasing electricity production you would think there would be a noticeable drop in electricity consumption, black and brown outs, etc., but I haven't heard about any of those issues. So what else in China uses diesel fuel? Tanks, APCs, troop trucks, their ships, and most of their submarines (including all of their modern Kilo Class SSs that they bought from Russia, which are the only boats they have with the moxie to go up against our subs.) If the diesel isn't getting diverted to a strategic reserve, might it be getting diverted and stockpiled by the military?

And today, after a good couple of years of keeping the saber rattling to a minimum, some PROC officials start spouting off about how they will use nuclear weapons if the US attacks the PROC following an invasion of Taiwan. Even more unusual is that the old party line was that the PROC would respond with nuclear weapons is attacked by nuclear weapons. The new party line is: “If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons,” said General Zhu Chenghu (link below). That's a pretty big gauntlet to toss down as they are now saying that if we attack them the way we did Iraq, they will respond with nuclear weapons, and that's an odd thing to be telling a bunch of international journalists, unless you want a specific message to get out. Couple this with all of the commotion the PROC government is stirring up about the Unocal purchase, which they know the US government will never approve, and you've got the makings for the same justification the Japanese used for invading China in the 1930s.

It just makes me wonder if all the crap the Democrats are throwing about the media as to how our military is stretched too thin, is worn out, is understaffed, in need of new equipment, etc., is having an effect on the PROC government and making them think that maybe now would be a good time to hit Taiwan.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/28cfe55a-f4a7-11d9-9dd1-00000e2511c8.html
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
Well, let's just hope it's all just big talk and nothing really happens from it. If people are crying about the death toll in Iraq, they ain't seen nothing if we go at it with China. A war with China would absolutly bring back the draft.
 

vraiblonde

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Bruzilla said:
It just makes me wonder if all the crap the Democrats are throwing about the media as to how our military is stretched too thin, is worn out, is understaffed, in need of new equipment, etc., is having an effect on the PROC government and making them think that maybe now would be a good time to hit Taiwan.
I think that's exactly what it is. And I'll tell you my conspiracy theory :really: :

This has been planned for years and years, prior to the first Gulf War. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, China started getting bright ideas about world domination. So they coerced/paid Hussein to invade Kuwait to tie up US and allied military forces. But something happened and the Iraqis were sent packing too quickly. So China went to the UN and convinced them to let Saddam slide with the sanctions, thinking that at some point there would have to be a response from the US.

When Clinton got elected and didn't seem to care about Saddam too much, the Chinese resorted to paying terrorists to blow up US holdings both at home and abroad. Still no dice.

So China figured they'd pull out the big guns and recruited Osama bin Laden to send suicide bombers to take out various US landmarks, including the WTC and Pentagon. THAT got our attention, especially since John Wayne Bush was in office.

Unfortunately, Bush only went after Afghanistan instead of the whole Arab world, like he was supposed to. So information was funneled to intel agents to make them think Iraq was building WMD with which to attack the US. So Bush sent troops over there, tying up our military in a major way, and NOW the time is ripe for China to make its move.

It's interesting to note the role that Pakistan is playing in the War on Tara (We will help you...just not in any significant way. We are your friends...but we will harbor the terrorists you're looking for and lie to you about it.). It's also interesting that Pakistan happens to lie right between Afghanistan and China, kind of like a little breezeway.

Coincidence?

Iraq is a pimp. They never could have outfought the US. But I didn't know until this day that it was China all along. :cool:
 

Mikeinsmd

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vraiblonde said:
I think that's exactly what it is. And I'll tell you my conspiracy theory :really: :

This has been planned for years and years, prior to the first Gulf War. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, China started getting bright ideas about world domination. So they coerced/paid Hussein to invade Kuwait to tie up US and allied military forces. But something happened and the Iraqis were sent packing too quickly. So China went to the UN and convinced them to let Saddam slide with the sanctions, thinking that at some point there would have to be a response from the US.

When Clinton got elected and didn't seem to care about Saddam too much, the Chinese resorted to paying terrorists to blow up US holdings both at home and abroad. Still no dice.

So China figured they'd pull out the big guns and recruited Osama bin Laden to send suicide bombers to take out various US landmarks, including the WTC and Pentagon. THAT got our attention, especially since John Wayne Bush was in office.

Unfortunately, Bush only went after Afghanistan instead of the whole Arab world, like he was supposed to. So information was funneled to intel agents to make them think Iraq was building WMD with which to attack the US. So Bush sent troops over there, tying up our military in a major way, and NOW the time is ripe for China to make its move.

It's interesting to note the role that Pakistan is playing in the War on Tara (We will help you...just not in any significant way. We are your friends...but we will harbor the terrorists you're looking for and lie to you about it.). It's also interesting that Pakistan happens to lie right between Afghanistan and China, kind of like a little breezeway.

Coincidence?

Iraq is a pimp. They never could have outfought the US. But I didn't know until this day that it was China all along. :cool:
:yikes:
 

Goofing_Off

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vraiblonde said:
I think that's exactly what it is. And I'll tell you my conspiracy theory :really: :

This has been planned for years and years, prior to the first Gulf War. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, China started getting bright ideas about world domination. So they coerced/paid Hussein to invade Kuwait to tie up US and allied military forces. But something happened and the Iraqis were sent packing too quickly. So China went to the UN and convinced them to let Saddam slide with the sanctions, thinking that at some point there would have to be a response from the US.

When Clinton got elected and didn't seem to care about Saddam too much, the Chinese resorted to paying terrorists to blow up US holdings both at home and abroad. Still no dice.

So China figured they'd pull out the big guns and recruited Osama bin Laden to send suicide bombers to take out various US landmarks, including the WTC and Pentagon. THAT got our attention, especially since John Wayne Bush was in office.

Unfortunately, Bush only went after Afghanistan instead of the whole Arab world, like he was supposed to. So information was funneled to intel agents to make them think Iraq was building WMD with which to attack the US. So Bush sent troops over there, tying up our military in a major way, and NOW the time is ripe for China to make its move.

It's interesting to note the role that Pakistan is playing in the War on Tara (We will help you...just not in any significant way. We are your friends...but we will harbor the terrorists you're looking for and lie to you about it.). It's also interesting that Pakistan happens to lie right between Afghanistan and China, kind of like a little breezeway.

Coincidence?

Iraq is a pimp. They never could have outfought the US. But I didn't know until this day that it was China all along. :cool:
Vivid imagination
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
vraiblonde said:
I think that's exactly what it is. And I'll tell you my conspiracy theory :really: :

This has been planned for years and years, prior to the first Gulf War. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, China started getting bright ideas about world domination. So they coerced/paid Hussein to invade Kuwait to tie up US and allied military forces. But something happened and the Iraqis were sent packing too quickly. So China went to the UN and convinced them to let Saddam slide with the sanctions, thinking that at some point there would have to be a response from the US.

When Clinton got elected and didn't seem to care about Saddam too much, the Chinese resorted to paying terrorists to blow up US holdings both at home and abroad. Still no dice.

So China figured they'd pull out the big guns and recruited Osama bin Laden to send suicide bombers to take out various US landmarks, including the WTC and Pentagon. THAT got our attention, especially since John Wayne Bush was in office.

Unfortunately, Bush only went after Afghanistan instead of the whole Arab world, like he was supposed to. So information was funneled to intel agents to make them think Iraq was building WMD with which to attack the US. So Bush sent troops over there, tying up our military in a major way, and NOW the time is ripe for China to make its move.

It's interesting to note the role that Pakistan is playing in the War on Tara (We will help you...just not in any significant way. We are your friends...but we will harbor the terrorists you're looking for and lie to you about it.). It's also interesting that Pakistan happens to lie right between Afghanistan and China, kind of like a little breezeway.

Coincidence?

Iraq is a pimp. They never could have outfought the US. But I didn't know until this day that it was China all along. :cool:
:killingme
 

rack'm

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Arial view of the great China crater.....

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vraiblonde

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And I'll tell you something else: we have troops all over the Middle East and NOW North Korea suddenly decides to threaten the US with nukes??? Does not compute. So I believe that was another tactic to tie up more of our military so that China can strike unfettered. A little sleight of hand to divert attention from the real threat.
 

Christy

b*tch rocket
2012. Mark my words.

Bet not many realize that China owns an enormous amount of US Treasury Bonds. What do you think that would do to our economy if they decided to "cash in"? Who needs a nuke or any serious firepower when they can just sit back and take over by devastating our economy if we don't "play nice"? :shrug:
 

Goofing_Off

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vraiblonde said:
And I'll tell you something else: we have troops all over the Middle East and NOW North Korea suddenly decides to threaten the US with nukes??? Does not compute. So I believe that was another tactic to tie up more of our military so that China can strike unfettered. A little sleight of hand to divert attention from the real threat.
VERY vivid imagination
 

rack'm

Jaded
Paid in full........

Christy said:
2012. Mark my words.

Bet not many realize that China owns an enormous amount of US Treasury Bonds. What do you think that would do to our economy if they decided to "cash in"? Who needs a nuke or any serious firepower when they can just sit back and take over by devastating our economy if we don't "play nice"? :shrug:


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Christy

b*tch rocket
rack'm said:
ivymike3.jpg
:tantrum All I can see is a red X. :tantrum
 

Club'nBabySeals

Where are my pants?
We need to send some covert ops into China and have them place all their weapons on really high shelves. By the time they get their five or six tall people to get them all down, we'll have already won.

The only flaw in this plan is that sooner or later the Chinese may get the notion to use ladders, thus rapidly increasing their weapon retreival rate. The yellow man is a crafty devil....
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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Christy said:
2012. Mark my words.

Bet not many realize that China owns an enormous amount of US Treasury Bonds. What do you think that would do to our economy if they decided to "cash in"? Who needs a nuke or any serious firepower when they can just sit back and take over by devastating our economy if we don't "play nice"? :shrug:
This is why I don't think it's a good idea to let foreign countries buy our stocks and bonds. Sure, it's good money but the risk to our economy is just too much, IMO. National debt doesn't disturb me too much - after all, how many of us own our homes and vehicles outright, not to mention pay our credit cards in full each month?

But it just doesn't seem like a good idea to allow foreign nations to own a piece of us.
 

rack'm

Jaded
Club'nBabySeals said:
The only flaw in this plan is that sooner or later the Chinese may get the notion to use ladders, thus rapidly increasing their weapon retreival rate. The yellow man is a crafty devil....


We could always hide the weapons in the "human rights" area, they'll never find them there.
 
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