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transporter

Active Member
So that's the number that keeps getting thrown around: 800,000.

800,000 employees who won't get paid today. A good number have actually rendered their service and provided their knowledge and time to their employer. Those who aren't deemed essential have essentially been laid off.

Those 800,000 American families aren't getting a paycheck today.

Additionally, there are many more thousands of families and small business whose income is being impacted because those 800,00 federal employees aren't getting paid.

These people won't get back pay from anyone....they are the one who will truly get screwed.

And why is this happening? Because our inept, incompetent and unfit president needs a different story to lead the news cycle. That is really what this comes down to. Trump, who a lot of really, really dumb people think is some sort of masterful businessman and negotiator, has decided to shut down part of his business (the US govt) because he knows that Mueller, Cohen, Flynn and Comey would be the lead story on the cable channels otherwise.

There is no crisis at the Southern border....you could have made that claim 20 years ago, but not now.

Our secondary crisis today is a crisis of leadership.

Our primary crisis to is one of ignorance. People, in general, are too lazy (some just too stoopid) to read reports, look up facts or listen to educated experts. The internet has unleashed a tidal wave of lazy, gullible and not very intelligent people into a system that was messy to begin with.

800,000 American families today are paying for YOUR ignorance and YOUR stupidity. Think about that for a moment. You got the govt YOU voted for (or in the case of comrade GURPS, he got the govt he propagandized for)
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Because our inept, incompetent and unfit president needs a different story to lead the news cycle. That is really what this comes down to. Trump, who a lot of really, really dumb people think is some sort of masterful businessman and negotiator, has decided to shut down part of his business (the US govt) because he knows that Mueller, Cohen, Flynn and Comey would be the lead story on the cable channels otherwise.
Fantasy, Supposition, Innuendo and Unfounded OPINION


There is no crisis at the Southern border .... you could have made that claim 20 years ago, but not now.

Media had no problem calling it a border 'crisis' in 2014 under Obama


Our secondary crisis today is a crisis of leadership.

Fantasy, Supposition, Innuendo and Unfounded OPINION


Our primary crisis to is one of ignorance. People, in general, are too lazy (some just too stoopid) to read reports, look up facts or listen to educated experts. The internet has unleashed a tidal wave of lazy, gullible and not very intelligent people into a system that was messy to begin with.
Yeah because INSULTING People makes your point so much more cognizant

800,000 American families today are paying for YOUR ignorance and YOUR stupidity. Think about that for a moment. You got the govt YOU voted for
Fantasy, Supposition, Innuendo and Assumptions

(or in the case of comrade GURPS, he got the govt he propagandized for)

and you continue to invalidate ANY Point you had to make with your continued Ad Hominem Attacks

if your entire raison d'être is to show the forum how SMART you are, why do you continue to insulting everyone your arrogance does not make YOUR Point anymore valid
 
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SamSpade

Well-Known Member
So that's the number that keeps getting thrown around: 800,000.

800,000 employees who won't get paid today. A good number have actually rendered their service and provided their knowledge and time to their employer. Those who aren't deemed essential have essentially been laid off.

Those 800,000 American families aren't getting a paycheck today.

Additionally, there are many more thousands of families and small business whose income is being impacted because those 800,00 federal employees aren't getting paid.

These people won't get back pay from anyone....they are the one who will truly get screwed.

And why is this happening? Because our inept, incompetent and unfit CONGRESS won't allow a plugged nickel for a wall they were FOR only a year ago.
A position that can only be justified by political posturing, since it is an about face from their previous position - unless they were FOR a government
expense that is needlessly expensive, pointless and immoral, NONE of which I'd dispute, from past observation.
FTFY.

IN case you were wondering - I'm one of those guys not getting a check.
Fortunately - I knew the Democrats would be dicks about this, and I took out a loan two months ago.
So I'm prepared. All they have to do is say, they're willing to make a concession.
They better do it quick, because if Trump succeeds with his national emergency funding - their bargaining chip is GONE.
And they look like fools.

Claiming there's no crisis at the border would be like claiming there's no crisis in any of the natural disaster areas of the last twenty years -
on the basis of - it was a long time ago. We've HAD one, and we need to solve it once and for all.

The Democrats fear their gravy train is about to be derailed -and they're pulling out all the stops.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
If only Nancy Pelolsi would look at those poor 800,000 people and the millions impacted by their pain, and just put forth the same legislation that passed the House before the end of 2018, and Chuckles Schumer would just get a couple of his folks to vote for cloture so it would also pass the Senate, then those people would all be better off.

I mean, their lack of leadership in doing this has cost far more than the $5B being requested, so they are actually costing more money, hurting more people, by not just giving the president what he needs to execute a 13 year-old law (Secure Fence Act of 2006). It's not like he's asking to change anything, just do what Congress voted for (including the aforementioned Minority "Leader" Schumer) 13 years ago.

If only Democrats would show some leadership.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
Staff member
PREMO Member
It would take about 5 seconds to reallocate some of the massive amount of money we send to foreign countries in "aid". But the Democrats would rather send our money to some third world #### hole or Arab oil king than secure our border and make Americans safer..

$32 BILLION a year we send to other countries, not including military aid. I can't think of a reason why we can't take $6B or even $10B off that for our border security.

Fun fact: The US is the world's largest foreign aid donor. We outspend #2 (Germany) by $10B a year.

I can think of about 10 other ways to come up with that money right off the top of my head.

So really, Democrats. Quit your ####ing crying and fund the wall.
 

Bird Dog

Bird Dog
PREMO Member
I was talking to a furloughed govy yesterday about it, bitching like crazy. I told him to call Steny and tell him to compromise.
 

nutz

Active Member
FTFY.

IN case you were wondering - I'm one of those guys not getting a check..
That sucks, sorry you’re being wrung through the wringer. I do know what a horrible experience that is, not knowing when or if things will go back to “normal”. To add insult to injury, they are making employees dip into savings/not pay living expenses/take loans to buy gas, etc. for transportation expenses to go to jobs they are not being paid for. Meanwhile they have limos, police escorts, helicopters, security teams, etc..etc..at their disposal to insulate themselves from the “common folk”.
 
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nutz

Active Member
It would take about 5 seconds to reallocate some of the massive amount of money we send to foreign countries in "aid". But the Democrats would rather send our money to some third world #### hole or Arab oil king than secure our border and make Americans safer..

$32 BILLION a year we send to other countries, not including military aid. I can't think of a reason why we can't take $6B or even $10B off that for our border security.

Fun fact: The US is the world's largest foreign aid donor. We outspend #2 (Germany) by $10B a year.
I can think of about 10 other ways to come up with that money right off the top of my head.

So really, Democrats. Quit your ####ing crying and fund the wall.
Don’t forget the other domestic money pits; welfare fraud, prison reform, “education” money that never covers the tab, tax dollars for pro/semi-pro sports complexes, etc..etc.Or the latest and greatest, swapping historic park land around to make way for a pro sports venue.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
So that's the number that keeps getting thrown around: 800,000.

800,000 employees who won't get paid today. A good number have actually rendered their service and provided their knowledge and time to their employer. Those who aren't deemed essential have essentially been laid off.

Those 800,000 American families aren't getting a paycheck today.

Additionally, there are many more thousands of families and small business whose income is being impacted because those 800,00 federal employees aren't getting paid.

These people won't get back pay from anyone....they are the one who will truly get screwed.

And why is this happening? Because our inept, incompetent and unfit president needs a different story to lead the news cycle. That is really what this comes down to. Trump, who a lot of really, really dumb people think is some sort of masterful businessman and negotiator, has decided to shut down part of his business (the US govt) because he knows that Mueller, Cohen, Flynn and Comey would be the lead story on the cable channels otherwise.

There is no crisis at the Southern border....you could have made that claim 20 years ago, but not now.

Our secondary crisis today is a crisis of leadership.

Our primary crisis to is one of ignorance. People, in general, are too lazy (some just too stoopid) to read reports, look up facts or listen to educated experts. The internet has unleashed a tidal wave of lazy, gullible and not very intelligent people into a system that was messy to begin with.

800,000 American families today are paying for YOUR ignorance and YOUR stupidity. Think about that for a moment. You got the govt YOU voted for (or in the case of comrade GURPS, he got the govt he propagandized for)
Actually it is happening because Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi would rather piss away several billions on a shut down than give President Trump $5 billion for a wall.
 
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Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
FTFY.

IN case you were wondering - I'm one of those guys not getting a check.
Fortunately - I knew the Democrats would be dicks about this, and I took out a loan two months ago.
So I'm prepared. All they have to do is say, they're willing to make a concession.
are you prepared for this to go a year or longer like trump has threatened?

They better do it quick, because if Trump succeeds with his national emergency funding - their bargaining chip is GONE.
And they look like fools.

Claiming there's no crisis at the border would be like claiming there's no crisis in any of the natural disaster areas of the last twenty years -
on the basis of - it was a long time ago. We've HAD one, and we need to solve it once and for all.

The Democrats fear their gravy train is about to be derailed -and they're pulling out all the stops.
We all better watch out if trump succeds with the national emergency scam. What will be the next 'national emergency', deaths from alcohol, guns, perscription drugs? trump could use the same idiotic with respect to those issues.. Even if you are willing to accept trump abusing his power you have to remember that this will set the precedent that all future presidents can and will use.
 

black dog

Free America
PREMO Member
I was talking to a furloughed govy yesterday about it, bitching like crazy. I told him to call Steny and tell him to compromise.
Everyone in St Marys, Charles and Calvert thats furlowed should show up at his house at dinner time tonight... I'm sure Ernest will let everyone park in his fields..
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
HaHa, abuse of authority.. You guys pull all the stops when a white guy tries to follow the rules.
What rule would he be following? The trends show that illegal immigration is down. How can there all of a sudden be a National Emergency?
 
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