MMDad
Lem Putt
Who said it should be forgiven? Understanding that something is not intentional does not mean that it isn't still illegal.
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dems4me
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The thread was about people loosing their license for a year over a freakn' fender bender. Then it became about the word "accident". MMDad and I are both trying to explain, what the word accident means. We have both stated this several times... it's about motive. Accidents happen, not saying its a good thing at all but not everyone are creeps of the world that set out to do things that hurt others on purpose with their vehicles. I don't see how paying a stiffer fine or going to school or loosing their license or a year or more would help them to remember to stop at a stop sign when they knew that the first time around. They obviously know you are supposed to stop at a stop sign, but accidents happen, if they had the ability to prevent ALL accidents they wouldn't have done it to begin with
They didn't plan on running the stop sign when they set out. I'm not even going to talk about jaywalking and drinking and driving, etc in your post... the topic was about "ACCIDENTS" and loosing your license over them Maybe you should start a poll and see if a fender bender accident should equate someone loosing their license for a year, it's stupid as pointed out by me and others. It must be really nice to have nothing to do all day but condemn folks that are not perfect and god forbid have an accident
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pcjohnnyb
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Dems, MMD, please listen.
Calling them "accidents" is just a way to authorize people to be stupid and negligent. Ok, so someone causes a 12 car pile-up because they were messing with their radio-stations...while doing their hair...while talking on the phone...while smoking a cig...and they ACCIDENTALLY run a red light because they aren't paying attention. It isn't an accident if there is a legitimate cause, which there ALWAYS is.
Calling them "accidents" is just a way to authorize people to be stupid and negligent. Ok, so someone causes a 12 car pile-up because they were messing with their radio-stations...while doing their hair...while talking on the phone...while smoking a cig...and they ACCIDENTALLY run a red light because they aren't paying attention. It isn't an accident if there is a legitimate cause, which there ALWAYS is.
Cowgirl
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So, give me an example of an accident?
tiny tim
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mmdad goes to sleep, then wakes up to find he has wet the bed. and he even went before he went to bed.
MMDad
Lem Putt
Everything everywhere has a cause. Shall we just delete the word accident from the dictionary? Obviously it has no meaning.
Look up the word "accident" in the dictionary. Those who are claiming that it somehow gives people a free ride are showing that you are ignorant of the actual meaning of the word.
It is either intentional or accidental. You will never convince me that most crashes are intentional. The actions that cause the crash are intentional, but the crash itself is almost always accidental.
Do people intentionally distract themselves? Yes. Do they intentionally crash? no.
Cowgirl
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Nope, not an accident, because he intentionally drank too much or didn't wake up to go again.
pcjohnnyb
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dems4me
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toppick08
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tiny tim
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a bird pooped, accidentally, into his before bedtime water, which, as we all know, makes you not be able to wake yourself up to pee.Nope, not an accident, because he intentionally drank too much or didn't wake up to go again.
pcjohnnyb
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It is an accident if he had a medical condition he was unaware of :shrug:Nope, not an accident, because he intentionally drank too much or didn't wake up to go again.
An accident:
If subject A has a heart attack and thus crashes his vehicle in some way (whether it be in a ditch, into a pole, into a subject B, ect).
If he had no prior condition/symptoms then it is an accident
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Cowgirl
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How did the bird get into the house? He was negligent because a bird got loose in his house.
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dems4me
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Maybe it was because he was fat, chinese and suffering from aids
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dems4me
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What if he was driving to the hospital himself with chest pains instead of calling an ambulance? Why didn't he pull over? These scenarios don't create the majority of fender benders. Are you saying its okay to loose your license for year for a fender bender? That was the thread topicIt is an accident if he had a medical condition he was unaware of :shrug:
An accident:
If subject A has a heart attack and thus crashes his vehicle in some way (whether it be in a ditch, into a pole, into a subject B, ect).
If he had no prior condition/symptoms then it is an accident
tiny tim
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i would consider becoming fat if it meant that i could hibernate for 3 months.Maybe it was because he was fat, chinese and suffering from aids
pcjohnnyb
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Maybe it was because he was fat, chinese and suffering from aids
Unsignedanywho....this is going to turn into another case of semantics. People's definition of an "accident" will vary. :shrug:
MMDad
Lem Putt
Websters 9th collegiate dictionary, page 49, definition 2.a:
an unfortunate event resulting especially from carelessness or ignorance.
Does that definition cover the mouth breathing 71 IQ Leonardtown honors student, doing her makeup while listening to a CD and talking on the cellphone that runs a red light and hits somebody?
Let's see:
An unfortunate event. Yes.
Careless. Yes.
Ignorant. Yes.
See, it's an accident.
tiny tim
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LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSEWhat if he was driving to the hospital himself with chest pains instead of calling an ambulance? Why didn't he pull over? These scenarios don't create the majority of fender benders. Are you saying its okay to loose your license for year for a fender bender? That was the thread topic