A lost officer and some perspective
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glhs837
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Agreed, I know when I do get tickets, which isnt often, I always treat the officer with total respect, and with only two exceptions (oddly enough, both DOD police officers) over my +30 years of driving, it has always been returned, and the officers have been supremely professional.
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Read reports that the other dead was the cop shooter and that he died from self inflicted wounds. He walked up to the cop during a traffic stop and shot him. Course this could change as the events are sorted out.
I just read the same thing not only that but now another in Virginia A state Trooper.
Trooper Shot On I-95 Near Fredericksburg, Va. | wusa9.com
There is no reason what so ever our peace officers in St Mary's County should have to be like John Wayne. Six officers for a county this big is ridiculous. It might not be the way its soposed to be, but unfortunately it is.
Trooper Shot On I-95 Near Fredericksburg, Va. | wusa9.com
There is no reason what so ever our peace officers in St Mary's County should have to be like John Wayne. Six officers for a county this big is ridiculous. It might not be the way its soposed to be, but unfortunately it is.
Yes they are!! I have interacted with many different police agencies in my time, and I don't think they get enough credit down here.
I think leader sometimes forget where they came from. They get so tied up in the politics and power struggle that they step on the troops who are making them look so good, and as leaders they think they are above the policy that they are to be upholding, bending rules to make them fit their needs, or letting someone go from the job that was a worker simply because they "pissed" them off by not following up diligently enough to their liking with a friend who had to file a report. I don't care who you know or what the issue was you do not deserve preferentail treatmeant because you are a friend of someone high ranking in the agency.
I think as citizens we can help our deputies and make it that much better if we just flood the Sheriff's office with compliments and written letters commending these brave men and women. Let's see if they get the recognition that is deserved.
I was almost sick to my stomach yesterday when I learned that the DMV area had so many officers wounded or killed in the line of duty yesterday. Its up to us the citizens to protect those who protect us !!!
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Get Your Facts First
@ ChesBchSportsmn
1) OK before you get on here and start talking know your facts !!! There was only one victim that was the Police Officer who was shot sitting in his patrol car. The other individual was the suspect who cowardly took his own life after killing a cop...
2) Marijuana is illegal... So if you get arrested so be it ! A Crime is a Crime is a Crime ! If you want to complain about people getting locked up for "petty crimes" such as Marijuana write your legislators. California's Citizens did and so did DC and now they have their version of "Prescription Marijuana".
3) I am not kissing ass. I was a cop for a very long time. I have been there and done that. I know what it is like to get kicked, punched, spit on, cursed at, hurt, injured, lose friends in the line of duty, watch citizens die from evil people, and most of all deal with ignorant people who think they know my job.
4) you say marijuana is a simple crime. Well take a look at the bigger picture of the dealer that is making the money that has the guns that this person just bought it from it is a vicious circle. Most ordinary citizens don't think of the big picture.
5) Sure it sucks to get locked up. I don't know a single person that wakes up and says "Man I want to go to jail today ! "
6) you are tired of hearing how short handed police departments are... well guess what hear it again.... THEY ARE !!!!!!!!!!!! and because they are short handed, officers lose their lifes trying to keep people like you safe. It's not about how much time they so called waste (by your uneducated opinion) locking people up for "petty" offenses its called they need BACKUP to deal with the thousands of calls for service they deal with so they don't need to go on a Domestic by themselves and risk losing their life (btw DOMESTICS ARE THE SECOND MOST DANGEROUS CALL FOR SERVICE AN OFFICER CAN GO ON).
7) I am not implying there needs to be more than needed on the street I am simply saying that the numbers here are not sufficient for the safety of these deputies.
8) Also most deputies in St Mary's are scheduled to go to court when they are already working so there is no overtime for court in that aspect !! (ONCE AGAIN GET YOUR FACTS FIRST)
@ ChesBchSportsmn
1) OK before you get on here and start talking know your facts !!! There was only one victim that was the Police Officer who was shot sitting in his patrol car. The other individual was the suspect who cowardly took his own life after killing a cop...
2) Marijuana is illegal... So if you get arrested so be it ! A Crime is a Crime is a Crime ! If you want to complain about people getting locked up for "petty crimes" such as Marijuana write your legislators. California's Citizens did and so did DC and now they have their version of "Prescription Marijuana".
3) I am not kissing ass. I was a cop for a very long time. I have been there and done that. I know what it is like to get kicked, punched, spit on, cursed at, hurt, injured, lose friends in the line of duty, watch citizens die from evil people, and most of all deal with ignorant people who think they know my job.
4) you say marijuana is a simple crime. Well take a look at the bigger picture of the dealer that is making the money that has the guns that this person just bought it from it is a vicious circle. Most ordinary citizens don't think of the big picture.
5) Sure it sucks to get locked up. I don't know a single person that wakes up and says "Man I want to go to jail today ! "
6) you are tired of hearing how short handed police departments are... well guess what hear it again.... THEY ARE !!!!!!!!!!!! and because they are short handed, officers lose their lifes trying to keep people like you safe. It's not about how much time they so called waste (by your uneducated opinion) locking people up for "petty" offenses its called they need BACKUP to deal with the thousands of calls for service they deal with so they don't need to go on a Domestic by themselves and risk losing their life (btw DOMESTICS ARE THE SECOND MOST DANGEROUS CALL FOR SERVICE AN OFFICER CAN GO ON).
7) I am not implying there needs to be more than needed on the street I am simply saying that the numbers here are not sufficient for the safety of these deputies.
8) Also most deputies in St Mary's are scheduled to go to court when they are already working so there is no overtime for court in that aspect !! (ONCE AGAIN GET YOUR FACTS FIRST)
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4) you say marijuana is a simple crime. Well take a look at the bigger picture of the dealer that is making the money that has the guns that this person just bought it from it is a vicious circle. Most ordinary citizens don't think of the big picture. The reason the dealer makes so much money off of it is because it is illegal. With this, comes the guns and such. When a dealer has a conflict with a seller or another dealer, they can't exactly call the cops. So, they settle things on their own, which is sometimes through violence. Hence, the ENFORCEMENT of drug laws is what causes the so-called "drug violence," and not the drug itself
Really? More people are dying from ....now listen close... legal medications.
Prescription pills ...legal pills have HUGE markups because they are generic pills. The legalization movement is operating under false pretenses.
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Well that is one way. Then they get sold for lots of money.... which was your point in the firstplace.
itsrequired
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I think your attempts to give credit to the law enforcement officers who do the job in our local sheriff's office are riddled with criticisms that are off the mark. The discipline process is transparent and there is a procedure for officers to follow if they believe they have been wronged.
I will grant you that the officers are over worked. The commissioners need to cough up more manpower to help alleviate this situation.
The process is also transparent all officers are afforded legal counsel in alleged policy violations. I can only imagine that you are getting your information from an officer who likely is one of the disgruntled, not because they are being treated unfairly, but more likely because they are prone to laziness.
The last thing I will say is the citizens of this county do give officers credit where credit is due. While there are complaints on officers, those complaints are often handled at the lowest level and are usually the result of a misperception or misunderstanding on the part of the citizen. The sheriff’s office is well supported by the community we serve!
Back to the topic of the OP... I think our local police for all three counties do a fantastic job! Having lived in P.G. county for 20+ years I know we have the best down here in the tri-county area. The majority of the people who complain about the police are the ones who cannot and will not take responsibility for their own actions, instead of saying I got a ticket because I was wrong they try to blame it on the police.
I have been to d.c. a few times for the National Law Enforcement Memorial and it is always a good reminder of how much we take them for granted. They bravely risk their own lives everyday when they put their uniform on. If you are a person who has nothing nice to say about the job they do, the next time you need help or protection try calling some of your buddies and see how quickly they get there, the police are not the enemy.
A huge thank you to the Charles, Calvert & St. Mary's police for everything you do!
I have been to d.c. a few times for the National Law Enforcement Memorial and it is always a good reminder of how much we take them for granted. They bravely risk their own lives everyday when they put their uniform on. If you are a person who has nothing nice to say about the job they do, the next time you need help or protection try calling some of your buddies and see how quickly they get there, the police are not the enemy.
A huge thank you to the Charles, Calvert & St. Mary's police for everything you do!
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They might be supported by the community, more support would help !! I am talking about the lack of support inside.
I see the trend of a certain social group in your agency White Male If you are in the in crowd and in good graces you are just fine other wise. (Rewritten for clarification)
These are significantly substantiated facts !! Now I implore you to find something that would counter this! Which you probably will try to justify these actions taken. I expect this and demand it !!
I also pulled all the lawsuits that have been filed against the Sheriffs Office in past years. They are truly amazing. So what I mean by citizen support is support the deputies who are being treated like crap !! Don't sit there and tell me everything is just fine and dandy !! I am not talking about rookies who have been doing the job for 3 or less years I am talking about seasoned Veterans of the job who just can't believe what is going on. I believe the statement was "Things have not been this bad since Pettit was Sheriff"
(I think Tim Cameron is a great Sheriff and has done a lot I however must say I believe he has lost touch with what is going on in the ranks, as others run amuck)
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itsrequired
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LOL, you are full of crap. And FYI, the last guy who was fired as a result of a trial board's name ended in a vowel. My name doesn't, but I have worked hard, been honest and I am doing just fine!
I am sure they were serious offenses, and warranted such action. When I say end in a vowel I mean a part of that group. Not specifically that so good point I should have been more clear. However I am glad you are doing just fine ! I am sure you are well liked which is good ! But the lawsuits that were won by officers speak for themselves.
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More b.s. Point out the multiple lawsuits won by officers under this current administration! The officers who work hard at the sheriff's office and do their job do very well. The officers who make more work for those doing their job by loafing or not doing the right thing do not do so well.
Lawsuits are public information. I challenge you to post these multiple lawsuits.
I can't wait for the excuse as to why you can't or won't do post these public documents. You can also simply give us the names and we can look them up on case search.
However much I want to respond to this LT (I might be wrong on the LT, but this looks like your writing style) I must remain in a position so as not to compromise the integrity of your agency and the men and women who work so hard everyday to protect us. To place all of that information on the internet would be careless. People can go to case search or the court house and pull the lawsuits filed under the Maryland Freedom of Information Act. (make sure they check Federal Court in Greenbelt as well) I never said under this administration as well. I just said lawsuits filed. What is in the dark will always be brought to the light. It's not my fight to win. All I can do is support all the deputies as best as a citizen can !!!
So my original point is CALL THE SHERIFFS OFFICE AND GIVE GREAT COMPLIMENTS TO THESE DEPUTIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE...
So my original point is CALL THE SHERIFFS OFFICE AND GIVE GREAT COMPLIMENTS TO THESE DEPUTIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE...
Unfortunately they do not have a union in St Mary's County!! They have the FOP but that is a joke and a half... They do not have collective bargaining down here so pretty much they are SOL and regardless of LEOBR rights if they want to find a way to get rid of you they will (That goes for all agencies that do not have collective bargaining)