ABC growler question
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glhs837
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The press release and articles said that to begin with due to sanitation and size concerns, they would only fill their own. Of course, they are using standard 64 oz screwtops, and really sanitation is pretty easy to see. But I'm sure they want to get some growlers sold first. Me, I have two screwtops, so I'm not buying any more.
In the 1960s, NJ had a law that prevented bar beer sales at certain times and days of the week. The opportunistic bar owners came up with the idea of draft beer to go so they could skirt the law. They'd sell draft beer and put it into cardboard containers to go.
glhs837
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But you do know that growlers go much farther back, right?
http://www.bottless.net/The_History_of_The_Beer_Growler_s/605.htm
Article has some cool pictures of buckets of beer being filled and carried.
"Sec. 564. Canning Beer Prohibited. —That it shall be unlawful for any person, firm or corporation owning, operating, managing or controlling, or bartender or any employee working in any dramshop, tippling house or saloon to sell, or permit the sale of, draught or keg beer deposited, or to be deposited in cans, cups, buckets, jars, bottles, jugs, crocks, pitchers, or other utensils than glasses or steins, and drunk or to be drunk on the premises; or to permit what is commonly termed and known as "canning beer," "rushing the can," or "rushing the growler," to be drunk on the premises where the sale Is made. Ord. A'o. 1768; January 29, 1912. Little Rock (Ark.) Regulations pertaining to the growler trade.—Twenty cities prohibited the growler trade and 24 other cities, reported some restrictions on it. Several restrictions were in the form of prohibition to sell in this way to women and to minors. Wilmington, Del., required an extra license of $25 from dealers who supplied the growler trade. Four cities withheld the growler privilege from saloons, permitting it only in the case of dealers other than those selling by the drink. Eight cities limited the quantity which might be sold in a growler. One pint at a time was the limit set in Paterson, N. J. ; a quart in Allentown, Lancaster, and York, Pa.; and a gallon in Oakland, Cal., and Galveston, San Antonio, and Houston, Tex. - Census Bureau, 1915"
http://www.bottless.net/The_History_of_The_Beer_Growler_s/605.htm
Article has some cool pictures of buckets of beer being filled and carried.
"Sec. 564. Canning Beer Prohibited. —That it shall be unlawful for any person, firm or corporation owning, operating, managing or controlling, or bartender or any employee working in any dramshop, tippling house or saloon to sell, or permit the sale of, draught or keg beer deposited, or to be deposited in cans, cups, buckets, jars, bottles, jugs, crocks, pitchers, or other utensils than glasses or steins, and drunk or to be drunk on the premises; or to permit what is commonly termed and known as "canning beer," "rushing the can," or "rushing the growler," to be drunk on the premises where the sale Is made. Ord. A'o. 1768; January 29, 1912. Little Rock (Ark.) Regulations pertaining to the growler trade.—Twenty cities prohibited the growler trade and 24 other cities, reported some restrictions on it. Several restrictions were in the form of prohibition to sell in this way to women and to minors. Wilmington, Del., required an extra license of $25 from dealers who supplied the growler trade. Four cities withheld the growler privilege from saloons, permitting it only in the case of dealers other than those selling by the drink. Eight cities limited the quantity which might be sold in a growler. One pint at a time was the limit set in Paterson, N. J. ; a quart in Allentown, Lancaster, and York, Pa.; and a gallon in Oakland, Cal., and Galveston, San Antonio, and Houston, Tex. - Census Bureau, 1915"
lovinmaryland
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They only refill their growlers. They are pretty cheap though. I didnt realize that Maryland breweries will only refill growlers purchased in Maryland so we went and bought a few from ABC had them filled and now we can hit up other breweries.
Not sure if you've been to Mully's in PF yet but its really a great little spot
glhs837
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They only refill their growlers. They are pretty cheap though. I didnt realize that Maryland breweries will only refill growlers purchased in Maryland so we went and bought a few from ABC had them filled and now we can hit up other breweries.
Not sure if you've been to Mully's in PF yet but its really a great little spot
Well, it's a bit more muddy than that. There is no statewide rule about such things. what you have is the counties sort of making it up as they go along via Liquor Board regulations. Now St Marys hasn't made up it's mind as to what our regs are. So anyone that says "We are doing this IAW the law" is not informed or thinks it's easier to say that than explain the muddle. Now, as I understand Calverts rules (Mullys is located there) they required that all growlers must have the alcohol pregnacy warning and a santitation notice requiring the growler be cleaned properly (might even have directions
) prior to refilling. The rule (and this is important) allows breweries to refuse to fill growlers not purchased there, but does NOT require that. There is no purchased in MD rule, how would anyone know all the possible places in MD to buy one? And as I understand it, no legal requiement that it be purchased there. So legally, Mullys can refuse to fill any of my five growlers from three states, but they dont have to. Annoying, really.
glhs837
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My apologies, I was in error concerning Calvert........
Here's the permit application, which seems to be the only place that spells out the rules.
http://www.co.cal.md.us/DocumentCenter/View/6043
Here's the permit application, which seems to be the only place that spells out the rules.
http://www.co.cal.md.us/DocumentCenter/View/6043
That must be fairly new, neither of my Ruddy Duck ones have health warnings or cleaning instructions.
glhs837
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Form is dated 5/14, law didnt go into effect til after that.
Wonder if that affect my ability to get it refilled?
glhs837
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Not sure, I haven't filled one for a while, last time I did, in August maybe, they didnt care. Think they might have stickers for the older ones. Think it's stickers on the new ones. Hell, might be able to whip up your own and tape them on for the filling.
Like I did when the idiot car inspector insisted my five speed couldnt pass inspection with out a gearshift indicator.