Abortion Issues

GURPS

INGSOC
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‘I Hope You Get Raped’: Pro-Life Teen Says She Was Repeatedly Punched In Head While Canvassing



“It’s unfathomable that the pro-choice movement claims to be ‘pro-woman’ and yet attacks women who don’t agree with their narrative,” Hartsock said in a statement. “It’s not surprising to me that a person who advocates for violence in the womb wouldn’t hesitate to attack a pro-life woman like myself.”

In a blog post at SFLAction, Hartsock recalled stopping at a home where a woman politely told her, “No, I’m sorry, I don’t think you want to talk to us.”

Before Hartsock turned away, the teen heard another voice from inside the house yelling expletives. “Don’t apologize to her, mom,” yelled the woman, who is presumably the daughter of the person who answered the door.

When Hartsock went to leave, the woman yelling at her allegedly ran out of the front door and began chasing the pro-life activist.

“The woman shoved Hartsock in the chest with both hands and began hitting her in the head with closed fists. Hartsock attempted to protect herself and leave while the resident’s mother told her daughter to stop the violence,” the SFLAction post details.

“Hartsock told police that as she made it down the driveway to get distance from the irate pro-abortion supporter, the daughter threw a piece of food that hit her in the face, and she followed Hartsock down the street screaming curses and phrases such as, ‘I hope you get raped,’ and ‘I hope you get run over by a car,'” the post added.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Justice Department Sues To Block Idaho Pro-Life Law In First Suit Since Dobbs Ruling


Idaho’s law is set to take effect later this month, banning all abortions except where the life of the mother is in danger, rape, and incest. Though the state law has an exception for abortion if the life of the mother is in danger, the Justice Department’s lawsuit says the exception is too narrow and runs the risk of forcing doctors to violate federal law.

“The State of Idaho, however, has passed a near-absolute ban on abortion. Once the Idaho law takes effect on August 25, 2022, Idaho Code § 18-622 will make it a felony to perform an abortion in all but extremely narrow circumstances,” the lawsuit states. “The Idaho law would make it a criminal offense for doctors to comply with [Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act] requirement to provide stabilizing treatment, even where a doctor determines that abortion is the medical treatment necessary to prevent a patient from suffering severe health risks or even death.”

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Governor Brad Little (R-ID) said the lawsuit amounted to “federal meddling” in the state’s newly-secured authority to set abortion law. Biden “continues to ignore issues that really should demand his attention – like crushing inflation and the open border with Mexico,” Little said.

Idaho Attorney General Lawrence Wasden issued a separate statement saying the federal government is misinterpreting federal law to find conflict where none exists.

“Contrary to the carefully edited assertion in paragraph 25 of the Department’s complaint that Idaho’s laws are preempted, EMTALA actually states: ‘The provisions of this section do not preempt any State or local law requirement, except to the extent that the requirement directly conflicts with a requirement of this section,’” Wasden said.

“Instead of complying with the requirements of this provision and reconciling Idaho’s law with EMTALA, or even attempting to engage Idaho in a meaningful dialogue on the issue, the federal government has chosen to waste taxpayer dollars on an unnecessary lawsuit,” he added.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
“I am all about targeted assassinations,” an email from union activist Brian Talburt reads, discussing social media dissidents. The message was sent to Southwest’s then-senior director in inflight services Sonya Lacore, and then forwarded to Stone by Talburt.

“It IS maddening trying to reason with these sheeple,” Talburt said, comparing at least one other critic to “cancer.”

Talburt also called Corliss King, a black woman who later became a Local 556 executive board member, “incredibly dangerous.”

“I am sure with her dreadful work history, there could be opportunity,” he said of King. “She will play VERY well to the heavy inner city, minority crowd coming on board soon. She will be their voice. She will be a huge threat in our upcoming election as well.”

Further, union critic Mike Casper was called a “cancer” that must be “eradicated.”

“I highly encourage targeting people,” Talburt wrote.

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Since Carter’s legal victory, both Southwest Airlines and TWU union officials have vowed to appeal the ruling. National Right to Work Foundation President Mark Mix pledged to “keep fighting” for Carter and others who’ve “experienced similar hostility.”

“Ms. Carter demonstrated that, even in an overwhelmingly toxic environment, independent-minded workers can stand up, push back against union boss attacks on individual rights and free speech, and win,” Mix said in a statement to The Daily Wire. “The evidence presented at Carter’s trial reveals an ingrained union culture of intimidation and prejudice against dissident workers. While we will keep fighting to defend Ms. Carter’s victory for her rights, flight attendants or other employees who have experienced similar hostility should not hesitate to contact the National Right to Work Foundation for help in defending their rights.”

“Federal law governing labor relations in the air and rail industries allows union officials to demand workers fund their activities as a condition of employment,” Mix added. “TWU union officials’ attacks on employees who disagree with the union’s agenda are the unsurprising result of a system in which workers do not have even the simple power to withhold dues when union officials violate their rights – an accountability mechanism Right to Work protects.”


 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Pro-Lifers Need Not Despair Over Kansas Abortion Setback And Here’s Why


Though the outcome of Tuesday’s election is certainly disappointing, pro-lifers need not despair. This is for three reasons. First, a substantial body of academic research shows that campaign spending plays an outsized role in direct democracy campaigns. Since abortion is a multibillion-dollar industry subsidized with millions of state and federal taxpayer dollars, supporters of legal abortion can almost always outspend pro-lifers. Indeed, that was the case in this election. Media reports indicate that Kansans for Constitutional Freedom, which opposed the amendment, outspent the “Value Them Both” campaign by over 1 million dollars.

Second, history shows pro-life ballot propositions can win, but only when two conditions hold. The first condition is that the campaign must take place in a conservative state. The second is that the pro-life policy change must be popular, incremental, and difficult to caricature. Indeed pro-lifers have used direct democracy to stop taxpayer funding of abortion via state Medicaid programs in Colorado, Arkansas, and West Virginia. Additionally, pro-life parental involvement laws prevailed at the ballot box in Florida, Alaska, and Montana.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

WH Tries Shamefully Ignorant Gaslighting Effort Over SCOTUS Decision on Abortion




She said Biden had predicted that “people would turn out in record numbers to reclaim rights stolen from them, and they did.”

Um, guys? The Supreme Court in Dobbs v. Jackson didn’t ban abortion, they sent it back to the states to decide. So Kansas, whether one likes the decision or not, did exactly what the Supreme Court decision allowed for. Not only didn’t the Supreme Court steal any “rights,” they ensured that the rights were back where they should have been all along — with the women and the others who voted. Neither Biden nor Jean-Pierre even understands the decision. Or they’re just trying to gaslight everyone about what it said.


Jean-Pierre didn’t leave it there. She doesn’t seem to understand the purpose of the Supreme Court or how the government works.





Noted legal scholar KJP even claimed, “From day one, when the Supreme Court made this extreme decision to take away a constitutional right, it was an unconstitutional action by them.” It’s the Supreme Court’s job to determine what is constitutional, not Jean-Pierre’s job. The Supreme Court wasn’t extreme. Indeed, it was the Court that originally passed Roe that was the “activist” Court passing a right that didn’t exist in the Constitution. This was again just handing it back to state legislatures and the people where it belonged, to begin with. I don’t think she understands what a constitutional right is. I think she’s trying for the Paul Krugman award for how many times someone can just be incredibly wrong. If there was an award for shamelessness, this might win.


 

herb749

Well-Known Member

Pro-Lifers Need Not Despair Over Kansas Abortion Setback And Here’s Why


Though the outcome of Tuesday’s election is certainly disappointing, pro-lifers need not despair. This is for three reasons. First, a substantial body of academic research shows that campaign spending plays an outsized role in direct democracy campaigns. Since abortion is a multibillion-dollar industry subsidized with millions of state and federal taxpayer dollars, supporters of legal abortion can almost always outspend pro-lifers. Indeed, that was the case in this election. Media reports indicate that Kansans for Constitutional Freedom, which opposed the amendment, outspent the “Value Them Both” campaign by over 1 million dollars.

Second, history shows pro-life ballot propositions can win, but only when two conditions hold. The first condition is that the campaign must take place in a conservative state. The second is that the pro-life policy change must be popular, incremental, and difficult to caricature. Indeed pro-lifers have used direct democracy to stop taxpayer funding of abortion via state Medicaid programs in Colorado, Arkansas, and West Virginia. Additionally, pro-life parental involvement laws prevailed at the ballot box in Florida, Alaska, and Montana.


Wasn't the vote on a Kansas constitutional admendment to ban abortion .? The Kansas legislature can still pass laws to make it difficult. Where is the big win for the abortionists .
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Wasn't the vote on a Kansas constitutional admendment to ban abortion .? The Kansas legislature can still pass laws to make it difficult. Where is the big win for the abortionists .
As I understand the issue, the Kansas Supreme Court (KSC) had ruled that the right to an abortion was protected by the Kansas Constitution's Bill of Rights, thus this proposed amendment was to directly state that in Kansas there is no such right. The failure to pass the measure leaves the KSC ruling in effect.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Indiana becomes first state to approve a near-total abortion ban since Roe v. Wade overturned: Republicans say it is 'the most pro-life state in the nation'

  • Politicians in Indiana on Friday voted to restrict access to abortion - the first state legislature to pass new rulings since the overturn of Roe v Wade
  • Other states have already ended access to abortion thanks to pre-existing rules that clicked into place when Roe v. Wade was upended on June 24
  • The ban includes limited exceptions, including in cases of rape and incest, and to protect the life and physical health of the mother
  • Pro-life activists said the law did not go far enough; pro-choice demonstrators said it was too excessive
 

stgislander

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PREMO Member

Indiana becomes first state to approve a near-total abortion ban since Roe v. Wade overturned: Republicans say it is 'the most pro-life state in the nation'

  • Politicians in Indiana on Friday voted to restrict access to abortion - the first state legislature to pass new rulings since the overturn of Roe v Wade
  • Other states have already ended access to abortion thanks to pre-existing rules that clicked into place when Roe v. Wade was upended on June 24
  • The ban includes limited exceptions, including in cases of rape and incest, and to protect the life and physical health of the mother
  • Pro-life activists said the law did not go far enough; pro-choice demonstrators said it was too excessive
It is my understanding that West Virginia passed a bill banning all abortion, including for rape and incest. I forget if it included an exemption for health of the mother.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Kansas Is Not a Bellwether on Abortion


Abortion supporters have been quick to cast the outcome as an indication that abortion — and, more specifically, the fact that the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade — will be a major factor in the Democrats’ favor in the midterms. Politico, for instance, characterized the result as “a political earthquake with the potential to reshape the entire midterm campaign.”

This appears to me to be a major misreading of last night’s results. For one thing, it’s fair to say that the question of what the amendment actually would’ve done was somewhat murky for many observers and voters. As I noted in a piece on the ballot initiative last week, opponents of the amendment united in lockstep around the falsehood that a “yes” vote was essentially a vote to ban abortion in Kansas. For instance, a coalition led by Planned Parenthood, NARAL, and others in opposition to the amendment branded itself “Kansans for Constitutional Freedom.” In reality, the amendment would’ve taken Kansas back to abortion neutrality, allowing lawmakers to legislate on the issue — though it’s likely that the legislature’s slant would’ve quickly resulted in a much more pro-life status quo than is currently permitted.

In other words, supporters of abortion effectively won the messaging battle. While many Kansans likely opposed the state supreme court ruling finding a right to abortion in the constitution and would prefer more pro-life laws than are currently permitted, they also didn’t like the idea of a total abortion ban, which is how the other side managed to cast the amendment. Given the amendment’s language and the relative murkiness of what it actually would’ve done policy-wise, the outcome doesn’t easily translate into the assumption that Americans across the country are poised to accept what the Democratic Party prefers when it comes to abortion policy.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Mother and Daughter Charged With Felonies After Illegal Abortion May Not Be the Great Example the Pro-Aborts Think It Is

Other narratives the Molochites are trying to push are women being imprisoned for having an abortion and social media being used to arrest women who have had an abortion. In Nebraska, they think they have found their twofer.

A Nebraska teenager is facing criminal charges alleging she aborted a fetus in violation of state law, after authorities obtained her Facebook messages using a search warrant. Seventeen-year-old Celeste Burgess, who is being tried as an adult along with her mother Jessica Burgess, is awaiting trial in Madison County District Court on charges that they broke a Nebraska law banning abortions after 20 weeks.
This marks one of the first instances of a person’s Facebook activity being used to incriminate her in a state where abortion access is restricted — a scenario that has remained largely hypothetical in the weeks following the US Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. Nebraska currently outlaws abortions beyond 20 weeks. On Monday, Republican lawmakers in the state failed to secure enough votes to decrease that window to 12 weeks.

The story is a bit more complicated. This is the story from the Lincoln Journal Star.

A Norfolk woman is facing five criminal charges — including three felonies — alleging she helped her teenage daughter abort, burn and bury her fetus earlier this year.
Jessica Burgess, 41, pleaded not guilty and is awaiting trial in Madison County District Court. Her then-17-year-old daughter Celeste Burgess — who is being tried as an adult — also pleaded not guilty to three charges, including a felony.

A Norfolk police detective launched his investigation in late April, chasing a tip that Celeste Burgess had miscarried and that she and her mother had buried the body, according to a search warrant affidavit.
The detective obtained her medical records, and determined she’d been more than 23 weeks — or nearly six months — pregnant at the time, and was expected to deliver July 3.

When [the detective] interviewed them a few days later, they told him Celeste Burgess had unexpectedly given birth to her stillborn baby in the shower, in the early morning hours after midnight, court records say.

On April 29, they showed the detective where — on a property owned by the man’s parents. He told investigators the mother and daughter had tried to burn the body before it was buried. And when authorities exhumed it, it showed signs of what the detective called “thermal wounds.”

But the investigation wasn’t over. A week after the two were charged, the detective served a search warrant on Facebook, to get access to their accounts.
He found messages between them suggesting Jessica Burgess had obtained abortion pills for her daughter, and gave her instructions on how to take them.
“C. Burgess talks about how she can’t wait to get the ‘thing’ out of her body and reaffirms with J. Burgess that they will burn the evidence afterward,” the detective wrote.
A month later, Madison County Attorney Joseph Smith added two more felonies to the charges against Jessica Burgess — for performing or attempting an abortion on a pregnancy at more than 20 weeks, and performing an abortion as a non-licensed doctor.

Let’s review the bidding. First, Nebraska bans abortion after 20 weeks with exceptions for the health and life of the mother. The state also requires abortions to be performed by a physician.

In this case, the baby was aborted at 22 weeks. The abortion was carried out without the services of a doctor. The mother and daughter were aware of the limits and discussed the matter on social media. Apparently, they had never watched The Wire.


The mother and daughter and a male attempted to burn the baby’s body, and when that failed, they buried it. Someone reported this to the police. The mother and daughter lied to the police officer. His suspicions aroused; he subpoenaed Facebook and found evidence that the baby was older than 20 weeks, and both women were aware of this.

If the pro-aborts want to ride this particular hobby horse, I’m okay with them doing so. The image of a woman attempting to burn her illegally aborted, viable baby is not something I’d care to defend, but I never cared to defend infanticide in the first place.
 
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