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No offense, but that's crap. My Mom was a dependency counselor and she had patients that would drink while on antibuse - they'd puke and be sicker than hell, but they'd booze it up anyway. Because if you can live through a 20 year hangover, nothing really seems that bad.Kizzy said:
I've also known people who still smoke while on the patch, even though that makes you sick, too.
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No offense taken.vraiblonde said:
I have no clue what it is like to be addicted to drugs or alcohol that way. I can only be empathetic and associate it to my smoking habit. I have yet to see any success on my caseload with methadone users, but just like any habit, it takes a great deal of willpower to quit. It would be nice to think there would be a miracle pill to help alcoholics along, and that it wouldn't be like that yucky nail polish that is suppose to help you stop biting your nails, once you get over the bitter taste, it isn't so bad. I would take it off and stick it to my finger and smoke, but I cut down a great deal.
Exactly. My mother is a recovering alcoholic and I grew up in AA. Alkies like feeling like crap - their self-worth is so low that they're subconciously trying to kill themselves. What's a little puking when death is your goal?Kizzy said:
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I understand the basic concept of the pharmaceutical interaction/interception in the alcohol and addiction situation. My concern would be that the behavioral and cognitive adaptations really wouldn't be made. The addict would seem to be really "band-aiding" their need to use until a situation arose that would require them to react in a healthier approach, unless he or she did, indeed, work on their attitude towards themselves while the pharmaceutical helped chemically balance their physiology. Right?
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virgovictoria said:
Oh I agree.
The biggest problem in conquering the problem for using clients comes down to this. Most long-term facilities REQUIRE completion of a detoxification program. These are typically 28 days. After that, they can move to a long-term treatment facility, but the typical waiting list is 2 months. SO, there is a gap of about 32 days between detox and long term treatment where they are back out on the streets, back around the pre-existing problems, and I have YET to have one NOT relapse.
Personally, I think we waste tax payers dollars, when they cannot move from bed to bed.