All you Navy folks, specifically any current or past submariners.

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

Figured this would be the best category place to post this.

All you Navy folks, specifically any current or past submariners. Even only those with experience aboard surface ships with women serving. Your thoughts would give insight as well as to the effectiveness and reliability of women aboard submarines/ships, their dependability and capabilities and so forth. (No offence to any women).

How do you think this 'experiment' will work out? Knowing that submariners undergo some of the most extreme mental stresses and operational pressures than their surface counterparts, will this became an untenable situation for the crew after awhile. And if it does, will it be swept under the rug for no one to be the wiser?

Inquiring minds .....

First coed submarine joins Navy fleet

Men and women will operate a sub “side by side” for the first time. "The future of Naval warfare starts here, and it’s more inclusive, stronger and more capable than ever," the Navy said in a video posted to social media.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Kyle]

 

[Monello]

I'd have to think the pool of female candidates for sub duty would be quite small.

 

[lucky_bee]

I'd have to think the pool of female candidates for sub duty would be quite small.

mandatory IUDs for those few willing.

 

[stgislander]

Prefect job for trans sailors. No chance of pregnancies.

 

[Kyle]

It'll be a disappointing cruise when they find out all the torpedo tubes already have a torpedo of their own.

 

[black dog]

It'll be a disappointing cruise when they find out all the torpedo tubes already have a torpedo of their own.

My dad's younger brother was on The SS Stimpson a Franklin Class Boomer as a nuke engineer
He once said that men get weird after a few months under water.

 

[buddscreek]

My dad's younger brother was on The SS Stimpson a Franklin Class Boomer as a nuke engineer
He once said that men get weird after a few months under water.

just think.. you never had to go under water.

 

[somdwatch]

Ahh, the sub-service, where 100 men go to sea and 50 Couples return.

Trans would be in 7th heaven.

The cost for carrier refits (when women were integrated) were 10 Million per hull.

18-30 year olds makes for an interesting 3 months underwater. Rather than swim calls, they will be able to go Muff diving when they pull up on the reef at Andros Island.

 

[Clem72]

Prefect job for trans sailors. No chance of pregnancies.

 

[Gilligan]

just think.. you never had to go under water.

 

[Merlin99]

For your consideration ...

Figured this would be the best category place to post this.

All you Navy folks, specifically any current or past submariners. Even only those with experience aboard surface ships with women serving. Your thoughts would give insight as well as to the effectiveness and reliability of women aboard submarines/ships, their dependability and capabilities and so forth. (No offence to any women).

How do you think this 'experiment' will work out? Knowing that submariners undergo some of the most extreme mental stresses and operational pressures than their surface counterparts, will this became an untenable situation for the crew after awhile. And if it does, will it be swept under the rug for no one to be the wiser?

Inquiring minds .....

First coed submarine joins Navy fleet

Men and women will operate a sub “side by side” for the first time. "The future of Naval warfare starts here, and it’s more inclusive, stronger and more capable than ever," the Navy said in a video posted to social media.

www.nbcnews.com

I was on one of the first ships with women and it was a ****ed up situation, captains mast every week bomb threats every time we were to set sail. I went to a carrier as a contractor with women on it years later and they’d worked most of the worst kinks out of it by then. I wouldn’t be afraid to be on this sub. PS I’ve been on a lot of FA boats.

 

[black dog]

just think.. you never had to go under water.

Damn they are on to me.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

I was on one of the first ships with women and it was a ****ed up situation, captains mast every week bomb threats every time we were to set sail. I went to a carrier as a contractor with women on it years later and they’d worked most of the worst kinks out of it by then. I wouldn’t be afraid to be on this sub. PS I’ve been on a lot of FA boats.

I was thinking, the main distraction while being stuck in a long submersible tight quartered tube, other than being in the vicinity of a woman, is the pheromones emitted from the women that affect the men, especially during menstruation, (as well as from the pheromones from men affecting the women). "Apart from potential attraction to someone unexpected, the most compelling evidence involving female pheromones actually relates to men and their attraction to women who are ovulating". Including any perfumes the women wear. In addition to having to deal with the petulance some women exhibit. That, and, when most men see a woman, especially one bending over, or viewing a nicely developed chest, steers their thoughts, even a simple glancing view. (being naturally programmed into their DNA), from whatever it is they are doing, to that of a sexual nature, diverting their attention from possible mission critical elements. The same with women, unless they are lesbians I reckon. IMHO, in a submarine, women will be nothing but a distraction and a liability.

 

[black dog]

Adults have self control.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

Adults have self control.

Of course they do. But even the best of self-control can wane. However, humans being humans, in extremely close quarters, on long duration undersea deployments, with women, is asking for trouble. I've read that submariners need to be psychologically tested before being assigned to a sub because of the duty being so stressful while operating in such a confined space. But even then, I've read that sub deployments are really hard and of sailors losing it, and even some threatening suicide get off a sub. So why throw women into the mix into an already stressful environment?

 

[black dog]

For your consideration ...



Of course they do. But even the best of self-control can wane. However, humans being humans, in extremely close quarters, on long duration undersea deployments, with women, is asking for trouble. I've read that submariners need to be psychologically tested before being assigned to a sub because of the duty being so stressful while operating in such a confined space. But even then, I've read that sub deployments are really hard and of sailors losing it, and even some threatening suicide get off a sub. So why throw women into the mix into an already stressful environment?

Women have been on ships for how long? The US Navy started the pilot program in 1972.

 

[smdavis65]

I spent 4.5 years on an attack boat in the 80's. I don't think it will be a problem. There's barely room to move around a sub, and very little privacy.
Other countries have had women on their boats for decades.
I'm sure the command will brow beat it into the heads of the crew that they'll be hammered at Mast if they get caught messing around.

 

[limblips]

I wonder what the skipper did to get this assignment. Almost assuredly doomed to failure. I do think the crew will try to do their best to behave but I fear hormones and human nature will rear up. In the end after time it will work out but as with the integration on surface ships there will be some heavy seas to navigate.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

This article elaborates on more of the Navy's downfall via dei and other stupidities, and does make a good argument vis historical naval battles.

Does anyone think the current Navy can do the same today, as it did 80 years ago?

The latest DEI stupidity is the US Navy’s “inclusive warfare” | Schiff Sovereign

On October 23, 1944, a formidable US naval fleet sailed past the Philippine island of Leyte with more than 300 battleships, aircraft carriers, cruisers, destroyers, and submarines.

www.schiffsovereign.com