although NOT in the tri-County,

GregV814

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Chris Van-Hollen, a super duper liberal guy, has designated MILLIONS OF Maryland's dollars to renew the vicinity of Silver Hill and Suitland Roads in Suitland to include, green spaces, bistro style eateries, an open space for bicycles and gentrify the community to resemble upper Bethesda.

How metro sexual Chris.

Lets see how this works out.

Project Name: Route 218 Suitland Road Improvements
Project location: Suitland, MD
Applicant: Redevelopment Authority of Prince George's County
Amount received: $2,500,000
Description: Funds will be used for the reconstruction of Suitland Road from Silver Hill Road to Lacy Avenue at the Suitland Federal Center and the Town Square at Suitland Federal Center, providing safe pedestrian crossing points, wide sidewalks, bike lanes, landscaping, and lighting to improve traffic control and pedestrian access to retail and restaurant amenities in the redeveloped Town Square.
 
Hessian

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So...if the residents are prone to outdoor relaxation, sports, exercising civic pride, and respect for personal property...this would be a wonderful improvement. However....would anyone with any sense of awareness look at how parks, trails, pavilions are treated in that area? This is turf areas claimed by different gangs who readily tag their territory and are the actual mafia of the region. To spend millions on this charade is pathetic. Typical liberals.....
If one actually purged the criminals...then civic pride would return.
 
SamSpade

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This is the blighted area next to the Census Bureau - or at least, it was. I don't remember when the leveled the place, but it was after they completely leveled the projects behind them.

This wouldn't be the first time a lot of money has been dumped in that area in the vain hope of improving it. There are gates around the Federal Center there, for a reason - crime. All up and down Silver Hill Road are a mix of boarded up buildings, old storefronts converted to a church, active businesses with gates for night time and thick plexiglass at the register (LONG BEFORE COVID).

Business owners once complained about the Suitland Federal Center, because they believed the poor business because the center looked like a prison, and they needed to TAKE DOWN THE FENCES to improve the area. The Census and others would have none of that - prior to the fences, there was an average of 1-2 car thefts or attempts A DAY. Once up, there had been as many but over a span greater than ten YEARS. Mikulski, in one of the few reasons I'm grateful for her, came up with a compromise - build NICE looking wrought iron fences with nice looking brick supports.

Some time afterward - the business owners decided what would make it better was to spend a buttload of money making brick lain crosswalks in the area, digging up the road and disrupting traffic. I leave it to the reader to guess how effective THAT was.

This is how it looks NOW --

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I am not surprised that a Democrat politician thinks all is needed to bring customers back to the area is to build nice shopping centers. Evidently he has never visited any of the several in the outlying areas - Iverson, Forestville etc.

What this WILL be is the biggest boondoggle yet, in the same area. And with the Fed Center there having fewer and fewer on site employees, it is NOT going to attract any of THEM to shop - even when I was there full time, we went VERY FAR afield to do shopping.
 
SamSpade

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Gilligan said:
Give the ferals something to rob. Keeps them occupied.
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Homes and rent there are cheap - because no one really wants to live there. They don't want to live there, because there's crime. Low rent in turn, makes it easier for criminals.

Crucial to "gentrification" - a term most social activists detest, because it really is code for - "find a way to get all the people of color and the poor OUT of here" - is to create housing that they cannot afford. Most petty crime is done - more or less - close to home. Move the criminals out, bring the business in. You are not going to "gentrify" the area with 2.5 million dollars worth of parks, trails and bistros. It's not hard to guess what will happen. You WILL get drug markets, trash and boarded up stores.
 
Monello

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rio said:
It's like taking away the habitat for any wildlife when we build/make improvements. The wildlife has to flee and create a new habitat somewhere.
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Plenty of deer & turkey showing up now in residential suburbs. They have adapted quite well. My hometown in NJ probably has more deer now than the entire surrounding 4 counties had 4 decades ago when I lived there.
 
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mitzi

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SamSpade said:
This is the blighted area next to the Census Bureau - or at least, it was. I don't remember when the leveled the place, but it was after they completely leveled the projects behind them.

This wouldn't be the first time a lot of money has been dumped in that area in the vain hope of improving it. There are gates around the Federal Center there, for a reason - crime. All up and down Silver Hill Road are a mix of boarded up buildings, old storefronts converted to a church, active businesses with gates for night time and thick plexiglass at the register (LONG BEFORE COVID).

Business owners once complained about the Suitland Federal Center, because they believed the poor business because the center looked like a prison, and they needed to TAKE DOWN THE FENCES to improve the area. The Census and others would have none of that - prior to the fences, there was an average of 1-2 car thefts or attempts A DAY. Once up, there had been as many but over a span greater than ten YEARS. Mikulski, in one of the few reasons I'm grateful for her, came up with a compromise - build NICE looking wrought iron fences with nice looking brick supports.

Some time afterward - the business owners decided what would make it better was to spend a buttload of money making brick lain crosswalks in the area, digging up the road and disrupting traffic. I leave it to the reader to guess how effective THAT was.

This is how it looks NOW --

goo.gl

Google Maps

Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.
goo.gl goo.gl

I am not surprised that a Democrat politician thinks all is needed to bring customers back to the area is to build nice shopping centers. Evidently he has never visited any of the several in the outlying areas - Iverson, Forestville etc.

What this WILL be is the biggest boondoggle yet, in the same area. And with the Fed Center there having fewer and fewer on site employees, it is NOT going to attract any of THEM to shop - even when I was there full time, we went VERY FAR afield to do shopping.
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That specific area was a shi* hole over 45 years ago. That store area was nothing but winos stumbling around. It was old and run down then.
 
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SamSpade said:
Homes and rent there are cheap - because no one really wants to live there. They don't want to live there, because there's crime. Low rent in turn, makes it easier for criminals.

Crucial to "gentrification" - a term most social activists detest, because it really is code for - "find a way to get all the people of color and the poor OUT of here" - is to create housing that they cannot afford. Most petty crime is done - more or less - close to home. Move the criminals out, bring the business in. You are not going to "gentrify" the area with 2.5 million dollars worth of parks, trails and bistros. It's not hard to guess what will happen. You WILL get drug markets, trash and boarded up stores.
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Not really, Average house in Suitland sells for 319k, Renovated SFH’s usually sell for over 400k
Rents average 2300 for SFH’s,
 
GURPS

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mitzi said:
That specific area was a shi* hole over 45 years ago. That store area was nothing but winos stumbling around. It was old and run down then.
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Iverson Mall was not exacrly a shining beacon in the 1980s or Marlo Plaza Next door ....
 
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