American recruits don't have people shooting at them
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This sort of thing pisses me off. Here go the Iraqis, stepping up to the plate to take their country back - risking their lives to cast a vote, risking their lives to create a military and a police force and a government - and what do they get from fat, drunken trust fund kids like Ted Kennedy? This kind of insulting crap.
Good article.
Good article.
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ProgMetalFanMan
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Ted Kennedy drinks so much booze, he urinates Harvey's Bristol Creme (literally)
Railroad
Routinely Derailed
Drinking aside, the warped and narrow-minded views of he and others like him make me so angry that I can't stand myself.
Iraqi troops have to (for one thing) SURVIVE the time it takes to train them. Also, I am certain that the U.S. formula for basic training is not applicable to foreigners - the DI's would scare them off! Thus it would certainly take longer. But there's more; First you have to teach them basic soldiering, but then you have to teach them how to conduct two very specialized types of military operations - urban and desert. Also, you have to train their leadership regarding basic leadership, but also you have to teach them tactics. And tactics in Iraq are still evolving as we gain very costly experience.
Iraqi troops have to (for one thing) SURVIVE the time it takes to train them. Also, I am certain that the U.S. formula for basic training is not applicable to foreigners - the DI's would scare them off! Thus it would certainly take longer. But there's more; First you have to teach them basic soldiering, but then you have to teach them how to conduct two very specialized types of military operations - urban and desert. Also, you have to train their leadership regarding basic leadership, but also you have to teach them tactics. And tactics in Iraq are still evolving as we gain very costly experience.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Dear Sen. Kennedy...
...in response to 'why?' let us consider the plight of the average Iraqi male, shall we?
If his father or grandfather was an outspoken patriot critical of prior management it is likely that the lad found his fathers opinion to be rather discounted by SaddamCo, perhaps to the extent of the rope placed around his neck or the effectiveness of the bullet that tore through his brain.
It is likely that Mr. Young Gun remembers very well 1992 when his fellow countrymen were promised US assistance in overthrowing ESE (evil saddam Empire). 100's of thousands were executed.
Having grown up knowing real tyranny, not the kind you, Senator, imagine in Florida or Ohio, but honest to goodness killing tyranny, our young lad may be forgiven and allowed a bit of ####ing slack and allowed a grain or two of salt and maybe even the right to reserve judgment until we've proved our resolve before he trusts us with his and his families lives.
He is starting to see that when young men from the US promising great things for his future get blown to bits by a roadside bomb, we shed a tear, catch our hearts in our throats and our knees might buckle a little. And then he sees a comrade, another young man or woman from this 'great USA' stand the post.
He is starting to see we mean him well, that we are serious. He is starting to see that HIS future and our future are one and the same and that we will pay the agonizing price for righting this wrong, that we consider Iraqi freedom worth our blood. That we believe in him.
He is taking up arms. He is standing his post in ever growing numbers. He is starting to see the future, to catch a wiff of freedom. He is starting to believe in himself.
So, Sen. Kennedy, perhpas you can allow him the time to be impressed, to start to have faith in a better tomorrow for his nation, with our persistant help, to be free, by his hand.
Is that too much to ask? Or can you simply not see it? Or, worse, just not want to?
...in response to 'why?' let us consider the plight of the average Iraqi male, shall we?
If his father or grandfather was an outspoken patriot critical of prior management it is likely that the lad found his fathers opinion to be rather discounted by SaddamCo, perhaps to the extent of the rope placed around his neck or the effectiveness of the bullet that tore through his brain.
It is likely that Mr. Young Gun remembers very well 1992 when his fellow countrymen were promised US assistance in overthrowing ESE (evil saddam Empire). 100's of thousands were executed.
Having grown up knowing real tyranny, not the kind you, Senator, imagine in Florida or Ohio, but honest to goodness killing tyranny, our young lad may be forgiven and allowed a bit of ####ing slack and allowed a grain or two of salt and maybe even the right to reserve judgment until we've proved our resolve before he trusts us with his and his families lives.
He is starting to see that when young men from the US promising great things for his future get blown to bits by a roadside bomb, we shed a tear, catch our hearts in our throats and our knees might buckle a little. And then he sees a comrade, another young man or woman from this 'great USA' stand the post.
He is starting to see we mean him well, that we are serious. He is starting to see that HIS future and our future are one and the same and that we will pay the agonizing price for righting this wrong, that we consider Iraqi freedom worth our blood. That we believe in him.
He is taking up arms. He is standing his post in ever growing numbers. He is starting to see the future, to catch a wiff of freedom. He is starting to believe in himself.
So, Sen. Kennedy, perhpas you can allow him the time to be impressed, to start to have faith in a better tomorrow for his nation, with our persistant help, to be free, by his hand.
Is that too much to ask? Or can you simply not see it? Or, worse, just not want to?
Larry Gude said:
That was worthy of Ann Coulter.Gosh, while we were sitting here on pins and needles, watching the election returns come in, can you imagine how the Iraqi dudes felt? They'd already had a Bush let them down.
"The Americans are coming! YAY!"
Oops. No they're not.
