Ammunition Accountability Legislation

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smibarines

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Ammunition Accountability Legislation

Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers.
No one can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this BILL!!

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
Ammunition Accountability Legislation
 
Tilted

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smibarines said:
I received this in an email...
_________________________________________________________________

It has already started...

Ammunition Accountability Legislation

Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers.
No one can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this BILL!!

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
Ammunition Accountability Legislation
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They've been introducing this legislation in Maryland for a number of years and it doesn't get out of committee. Also, it wouldn't apply to private hand loaded ammo, at least the wording of Maryland's bills in the past wouldn't seem to have.
 
Novus Collectus

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Tilted said:
They've been introducing this legislation in Maryland for a number of years and it doesn't get out of committee. Also, it wouldn't apply to private hand loaded ammo, at least the wording of Maryland's bills in the past wouldn't seem to have.
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The ammunition encoding bill was first introduced last year.
Imprinting and ammunition taxing was introduced before though, but not the encoding. It is a new unproven technology and the inventor hired a high dollar lobby firm to get legislators to introduce the bills in all those states in the hopes that if even one state passes it, he and his company would make a fortune.
This bill had nothing to do with solving crimes and had everything to do with profit for the inventor and a better way to make shooting sports expensive by the anti gun crowd.

The difference between ammunition encoding and ammunition imprinting is the imprinting is a stamp in guns that imprints the serial number on each case, and the ammunition encodint imprints the individual registration number on both the bullet and the case at the factory.
Both have extreme flaws. With both someone can pick up a spent shell at a range and toss it at a crime scene. With the imprinting the technology is not truly tested and what little testing it has had it has failed so far because the number stamp on th egun can be sanded off, or it will wear off on its own. Also the stamp may cause metal ftigue failures in the gun prematurely.
The encoding has a major problem of being way too expensive for the industry to implement and for the state and the factory to continue to register all that ammo as it goes along. Also, they this technology being untested by an unbiased source is not known to work in real life situations or impartial laboratories. The antis want to pass an incredibly expensive law for something they have no idea if it works.
 
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Novus Collectus said:
The ammunition encoding bill was first introduced last year.
Imprinting and ammunition taxing was introduced before though, but not the encoding. It is a new unproven technology and the inventor hired a high dollar lobby firm to get legislators to introduce the bills in all those states in the hopes that if even one state passes it, he and his company would make a fortune.
This bill had nothing to do with solving crimes and had everything to do with profit for the inventor and a better way to make shooting sports expensive by the anti gun crowd.

The difference between ammunition encoding and ammunition imprinting is the imprinting is a stamp in guns that imprints the serial number on each case, and the ammunition encodint imprints the individual registration number on both the bullet and the case at the factory.
Both have extreme flaws. With both someone can pick up a spent shell at a range and toss it at a crime scene. With the imprinting the technology is not truly tested and what little testing it has had it has failed so far because the number stamp on th egun can be sanded off, or it will wear off on its own. Also the stamp may cause metal ftigue failures in the gun prematurely.
The encoding has a major problem of being way too expensive for the industry to implement and for the state and the factory to continue to register all that ammo as it goes along. Also, they this technology being untested by an unbiased source is not known to work in real life situations or impartial laboratories. The antis want to pass an incredibly expensive law for something they have no idea if it works.
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Yeah, I was probably just lumping the nonsense of imprinting and encoding together in my head in terms of remembering which was introduced when. Thanks for the correction.

I was posting in the other thread about how they would make it easier to 'frame' someone and complicate investigations. Both are just ridiculous attempts to circumvent the 2nd Amendment. Encoding in particular isn't reasonably viable.
 
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Novus Collectus said:
The ammunition encoding bill was first introduced last year.
Imprinting and ammunition taxing was introduced before though, but not the encoding. It is a new unproven technology and the inventor hired a high dollar lobby firm to get legislators to introduce the bills in all those states in the hopes that if even one state passes it, he and his company would make a fortune.
This bill had nothing to do with solving crimes and had everything to do with profit for the inventor and a better way to make shooting sports expensive by the anti gun crowd.

The difference between ammunition encoding and ammunition imprinting is the imprinting is a stamp in guns that imprints the serial number on each case, and the ammunition encodint imprints the individual registration number on both the bullet and the case at the factory.
Both have extreme flaws. With both someone can pick up a spent shell at a range and toss it at a crime scene. With the imprinting the technology is not truly tested and what little testing it has had it has failed so far because the number stamp on th egun can be sanded off, or it will wear off on its own. Also the stamp may cause metal ftigue failures in the gun prematurely.
The encoding has a major problem of being way too expensive for the industry to implement and for the state and the factory to continue to register all that ammo as it goes along. Also, they this technology being untested by an unbiased source is not known to work in real life situations or impartial laboratories. The antis want to pass an incredibly expensive law for something they have no idea if it works.
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And I don't think they really care. The anti-gun idiots just want to pass it. To them, anything
anti-gun must be good. :banghead:
 
Novus Collectus

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Peepaw95 said:
As I read it, no one is TAKING your ammo. They are marking it and taxing it but it will still be available!
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First of all, if the manufacturers cannot afford to switch over, cannot make it work, or just simply do not want to spend the massive amounts of money it would take just to serve Maryland customers if we are the only state or two to have the law, then no ammo will be available in this state.
Then there is this:
Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.)
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So yes, if we do not destroy our ammo that we own now without encoding, they will be TAKING it if they discover it.
 
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