And in regard to the shutdown:

vraiblonde

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This is the Democrats' covid pandemic for 2025. Another ploy to derail the Trump presidency, and they will happily punish American citizens toward that end.

Democrat politicians have already shown us that they'll hold us hostage so they can play political power games, and their media minions will happily lie and say it's Trump's fault. We saw that show just a few short years ago. Dembot voters and idiots in the so-called middle have no idea how any of this works, so they'll go, "Sure, Trump's fault... 🤪 "

I don't see an end to this shutdown unless John Thune sacks up, ends the filibuster, and makes it a simple majority vote. I think it was McEnany yesterday who said they could end the filibuster on just this issue - federal budgets - and leave everything else supermajority. I don't know anything about that, but I do know that Democrats have backed themselves into a corner and now they have to figure a way out of it that the leftbot media can blame on Trump.

It also pisses me off that they're whining about SNAP and dipshit overreaching "judges" are demanding that Trump release emergency funds for that purpose (which isn't Trump's job and judges have no jurisdiction over that sort of thing anyway) when our military men and women aren't being paid.

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stgislander

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This is the Democrats' covid pandemic for 2025. Another ploy to derail the Trump presidency, and they will happily punish American citizens toward that end.

Democrat politicians have already shown us that they'll hold us hostage so they can play political power games, and their media minions will happily lie and say it's Trump's fault. We saw that show just a few short years ago. Dembot voters and idiots in the so-called middle have no idea how any of this works, so they'll go, "Sure, Trump's fault... 🤪 "

I don't see an end to this shutdown unless John Thune sacks up, ends the filibuster, and makes it a simple majority vote. I think it was McEnany yesterday who said they could end the filibuster on just this issue - federal budgets - and leave everything else supermajority. I don't know anything about that, but I do know that Democrats have backed themselves into a corner and now they have to figure a way out of it that the leftbot media can blame on Trump.

It also pisses me off that they're whining about SNAP and dipshit overreaching "judges" are demanding that Trump release emergency funds for that purpose (which isn't Trump's job and judges have no jurisdiction over that sort of thing anyway) when our military men and women aren't being paid.

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FIFY

Ending the filibuster is a baaaad idea.
 

vraiblonde

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Ending the filibuster is a baaaad idea.

Probably, but it's also a bad idea to allow one Party to gum up the works for political gamesmanship.

Honestly, I hate all these people. Stuff like this doesn't affect them. And even saying Congress won't receive pay during a shutdown - big whoop. That only punishes the handful of them that aren't getting greased by lobbyists and foreign interests. Jimmy Patronis (R-FL1) is making a big deal out of not taking a paycheck during the shutdown, but his congressional pay isn't his primary source of income - pretty much none of them rely on their c-pay to make ends meet.
 

stgislander

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Depends on how they do it. I could see a limited end of the filibuster with regard to procedures for handling a "Clean CR". No amendments, just a straight up "yay or nay".
But then the Dems add another "exemption" when they're back in power. Or they just blow the whole thing up next time. They just haven't had the balls to do it yet.
 

SamSpade

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The Dems show their true colors when they repeatedly take measures to block these kinds of funding. They go on air all weepy about the hard-hearted Republicans who don’t care who gets hurt -

And yet PROVE BEYOND ALL DOUBT that they don’t care by blocking relief just so their whining has a visible victim.

This is like a plot in a medical drama where a caregiver keeps someone in their care SICK just to get attention.
 

vraiblonde

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The Dems show their true colors when they repeatedly take measures to block these kinds of funding. They go on air all weepy about the hard-hearted Republicans who don’t care who gets hurt -

And yet PROVE BEYOND ALL DOUBT that they don’t care by blocking relief just so their whining has a visible victim.

This is like a plot in a medical drama where a caregiver keeps someone in their care SICK just to get attention.

We'd at least have a fighting chance if the news media was honest and not paid political shills, and if people got their information from legit sources instead of some Reddit or TikTok screen name.

Colbert just said he's not really all that liberal. That could mean one of two things:
  1. He's one of those delusional types who thinks AOC is a moderate; or
  2. He's lying, like so many Dembots do - "Oh, I'm a Republican who hates everything about Trump!"; or
  3. He's an actor who plays a part on TV and recites lines.
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SamSpade

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We'd at least have a fighting chance if the news media was honest and not paid political shills, and if people got their information from legit sources instead of some Reddit or TikTok screen name.

Colbert just said he's not really all that liberal. That could mean one of two things:
  1. He's one of those delusional types who thinks AOC is a moderate; or
  2. He's lying, like so many Dembots do - "Oh, I'm a Republican who hates everything about Trump!"; or
  3. He's an actor who plays a part on TV and recites lines.
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He said that?

One of the more interesting political personalities lately is Bill Maher, who lately has gained traction by skewering those on the left nearly as much as he has always done with the right. This is mostly because he’s really disgusted with wokism and the far left, and he doesn’t pull punches. I enjoy those bits immensely. He’s been audacious enough to come on Gutfeld (mostly to sell a book, but please - Colbert or Kimmel or The View ain’t never coming on his show) and to engage with Charlie Kirk or Marjorie Taylor Green or visit Trump.

Gotta hand it to him, takes guts.

But he’s still a Democrat. Bullsht about being libertarian or whatever, he will unintentionally saying “us” or “our side” when referencing Democrats - or conversely - “them” when referring to Republicans.

Colbert is self-deluded. He made his fame by ridiculing Bill O’Reilly and “truthiness”. If he doesn’t think he’s liberal then he’s deeper in the left-wing sphere than he realizes.
 

Kyle

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We'd at least have a fighting chance if the news media was honest and not paid political shills, and if people got their information from legit sources instead of some Reddit or TikTok screen name.

Colbert just said he's not really all that liberal. That could mean one of two things:
  1. He's one of those delusional types who thinks AOC is a moderate; or
  2. He's lying, like so many Dembots do - "Oh, I'm a Republican who hates everything about Trump!"; or
  3. He's an actor who plays a part on TV and recites lines.
🤷‍♀️
Number two.
 

Ken King

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But then the Dems add another "exemption" when they're back in power. Or they just blow the whole thing up next time. They just haven't had the balls to do it yet.
They already did judicial appointments, so why not on the clean CR? When less then a majority can shut down the discretionary spending for "leverage" it does nothing to serve the people or "the more perfect union".
 

LightRoasted

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For your consideration ...


They already did judicial appointments, so why not on the clean CR? When less then a majority can shut down the discretionary spending for "leverage" it does nothing to serve the people or "the more perfect union".


How about Congress pass a real Budget Appropriations Bill?

The last time Congress passed all required appropriations Bills, aka a real Budget Bill, on time, effectively completing a full budget by the start of the fiscal year on October 1, was for fiscal year 1997, with the bills enacted on September 30, 1996.

29 Years ago was the last time Congress passed a real budget. Article I, Section 9, Clause 7 mandates that no money can be drawn from the Treasury except in consequence of appropriations made by law. Is a Continuing Resolution a Constitutional appropriations law?
 

Ken King

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How about Congress pass a real Budget Appropriations Bill?

The last time Congress passed all required appropriations Bills, aka a real Budget Bill, on time, effectively completing a full budget by the start of the fiscal year on October 1, was for fiscal year 1997, with the bills enacted on September 30, 1996.

29 Years ago was the last time Congress passed a real budget. Article I, Section 9, Clause 7 mandates that no money can be drawn from the Treasury except in consequence of appropriations made by law. Is a Continuing Resolution a Constitutional appropriations law?
While the CR is a joint resolution versus a bill there is little that is different then a standard bill and it seems allowable, so yes it would be a law limiting spending at previously approved levels.

Of note is that the House has approved all of the appropriation bills out of the respective committees. Maybe the Congress should be held in session until all appropriations are resolved, no vacations, no campaigning, nothing. The only allowable business beside appropriations would be if they are declaring war.
 

vraiblonde

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But he’s still a Democrat. Bullsht about being libertarian or whatever, he will unintentionally saying “us” or “our side” when referencing Democrats - or conversely - “them” when referring to Republicans.

The most far left extremist freakjob will insist they are "moderate" and "centrist". You see them all the time on Twitter and Reddit. They're trying to convince us that crazy leftwing psycho sht is moderate or even conservative. They don't have a single conservative or even moderate take on things, but still they insist they are moderate and mainstream.

Colbert is self-deluded.

Or he may be an actor playing a role. Or may be trying to convince his audience that his leftwing viewpoints aren't crazy and are actually moderate. In any case, he's a lying sack of sht.

I'm not alarmed by liars so much as I am the people who fall for it.
 

Makavide

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I don't see an end to this shutdown unless John Thune sacks up, ends the filibuster, and makes it a simple majority vote.

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Just wondering if that isn't what Schumer really wants. Keep the shutdown going long enough to force the republicans to end the fillibuster "just this one time" to get a budget approved. Opening the door for the democrats to pass future budgets with out republican support - can say "fair share"
 

22AcaciaAve

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Ending the filibuster is a bad idea. Even if you carve it out for this specific purpose, it is a slippery slope. Remember Harry Reid....dems were crazy happy that he changed the rules and got all of those bottled up judges from Obama confirmed. Didn't turn out so well for the dems in the long run did it? This is a be careful what you wish for moment. Trump wants to end it because he really only cares about what happens during his presidency, but the long term implications on that once dems control the senate need to be considered. Is the government shutdown, which really is only about a 40% furlough, worth changing the rules? It could be a trap and the Trump administration might be walking right into it.
 

vraiblonde

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Just wondering if that isn't what Schumer really wants. Keep the shutdown going long enough to force the republicans to end the fillibuster "just this one time" to get a budget approved. Opening the door for the democrats to pass future budgets with out republican support - can say "fair share"

It's up to We the People to get what we want out of government. Sorry to say, if the majority of Americans want to give free stuff to illegal aliens, that's the way it goes. I honestly thought the Democrats' slouching toward Socialism would be the end of them....but here we are.
 
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