Animal Rights or NOT

ceo_pte

New Member
Seems this is taking the subject matter a little too far.. I guess they must eat alot of frog legs... :biggrin:

BERLIN (AP) - Germany's government is scrounging to save money, but it's spending $300,000 for toad and frog tunnels under a road, an effort to win approval for building a new diplomatic school in Berlin.

The Foreign Ministry - run by Germany's most prominent Greens party member, Joschka Fischer - said Thursday that Berlin authorities insisted the government compensate for building the center in a conservation area by investing in environmental protection at another location.

Under the deal, five 33-foot tunnels for frogs and toads are to be built by July under roads in the suburb of Luebars. The project will offer safe passage to an estimated 4,000 amphibians each year, ministry officials said.

Germany is trying to trim spending and social programs to shrink a budget deficit that has exceeded a European Union limit for the past two years.

The Foreign Ministry said it will make up the money spent on toad tunnels with budget savings elsewhere.
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
Who says it has anything to do with "Animal Rights"? Frogs are an important part of the ecosystem. If too many are getting squished on the roads they can't eat their share of bugs and rodents; possibly causing an infestation of such pests. Just a though.

I love frogs and toads. My mom always gets a lot because she has a puddle pond in the back yard. They're not bothersome to me and I know they're back there eating bugs which I'm all for. In the summer my grandma's house in GA is covered in tree frogs at night. They're attracted to the bugs that are attracted to the light. Plus they're neat looking.
 

ceo_pte

New Member
Originally posted by pixiegirl
Who says it has anything to do with "Animal Rights"? Frogs are an important part of the ecosystem. If too many are getting squished on the roads they can't eat their share of bugs and rodents; possibly causing an infestation of such pests. Just a though.

I love frogs and toads. My mom always gets a lot because she has a puddle pond in the back yard. They're not bothersome to me and I know they're back there eating bugs which I'm all for. In the summer my grandma's house in GA is covered in tree frogs at night. They're attracted to the bugs that are attracted to the light. Plus they're neat looking.

but what about the bugs and rodents... they are neat too! :bubble:
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Originally posted by ceo_pte
Seems this is taking the subject matter a little too far.. I guess they must eat alot of frog legs... :biggrin:

BERLIN (AP) - Germany's government is scrounging to save money, but it's spending $300,000 for toad and frog tunnels under a road, an effort to win approval for building a new diplomatic school in Berlin.

The Foreign Ministry - run by Germany's most prominent Greens party member, Joschka Fischer - said Thursday that Berlin authorities insisted the government compensate for building the center in a conservation area by investing in environmental protection at another location.

Under the deal, five 33-foot tunnels for frogs and toads are to be built by July under roads in the suburb of Luebars. The project will offer safe passage to an estimated 4,000 amphibians each year, ministry officials said.

Germany is trying to trim spending and social programs to shrink a budget deficit that has exceeded a European Union limit for the past two years.

The Foreign Ministry said it will make up the money spent on toad tunnels with budget savings elsewhere.
I wonder how they are going to inform the frogs and toads about these safety devices and will they strictly enforce their use?
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
Originally posted by ceo_pte
but what about the bugs and rodents... they are neat too! :bubble:

Bugs are a pest for the most part. Besides the point is it's all about how nature works. God made the frogs to eat the rodents and bugs. God did not make the roads that are killing the frogs. Nature's balance is off and needs to be restored so that things should be as they are suppose to be. When you start taking things out of an ecosystem you upset the entire ecosystem. You take out the frogs and the mice and bugs are more prevelant and after time the bug and mice population becomes uncontrollable. Take DC for example..... I'm sure before it was over developed there was plenty of wildlife there. But as animals of all kinds were pushed out and only a few species remaind the populations of those few species has reached "pest" level. The only things I can think of that are indegionus (sp?) to DC anymore are sewer rats and pigeons. They have no competetion nor natural predetors to keep them in check.
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
And just to make sure no one overreacts and thinks I've gone off the deep end. I'm just playing devil's advocate and looking at it in a different light. I could really give a crap less. But I do like frogs. :wink:
 

ceo_pte

New Member
Re: Re: Animal Rights or NOT

Originally posted by Ken King
I wonder how they are going to inform the frogs and toads about these safety devices and will they strictly enforce their use?

C'mon... You know they will have to put up signs saygin "Frog/Toad Xing"... :biggrin:
 

Hello6

Princess of Mean
I am just retarded enough to feel bad for killing a frog or toad on the road. I'll even try to get bugs out of the house alive. I've even taken worms off of the sidewalk after the rain and they're starting to get too dry.
But I'll take a good steak any day, just no veal.
 

ceo_pte

New Member
Originally posted by pixiegirl
And just to make sure no one overreacts and thinks I've gone off the deep end. I'm just playing devil's advocate and looking at it in a different light. I could really give a crap less. But I do like frogs. :wink:

j/k... take care of yourself... no smoking & no drinking... :biggrin:
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Re: Re: Re: Animal Rights or NOT

Originally posted by ceo_pte
C'mon... You know they will have to put up signs saygin "Frog/Toad Xing"... :biggrin:
Will there be small signs near these "culverts" and what is the acceptable language for frogs and toads? Oh yeah that's right, French.
 

ceo_pte

New Member
Re: Re: Re: Re: Animal Rights or NOT

Originally posted by Ken King
Will there be small signs near these "culverts" and what is the acceptable language for frogs and toads? Oh yeah that's right, French.

They do resemble each other.. :biggrin:
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
Originally posted by Hello6
I am just retarded enough to feel bad for killing a frog or toad on the road. I'll even try to get bugs out of the house alive. I've even taken worms off of the sidewalk after the rain and they're starting to get too dry.
But I'll take a good steak any day, just no veal.

Me too. I love me some frogs. Bugs for the most part don't bother me but spiders give me the heebegeebees big time. Yall are going to laugh at me but...... I'll make deals with little spiders. I had one living in the corner of the ceiling above the shower. I saw it and I told it that I wouldn't kill it as long as every time I got in the shower he was in his web. If I ever got in and he wasn't there then the next time I saw him he was dead. He was always there and then one day just disappeared. Big spiders freak me out though. Unless they're huge and non venemous like tarantulas. But them big hairy things around the house, ughhhh. I'll make B kill one quick. I'm not getting close enough to it to kill it. Bugs for the most part don't bother me except those creepy cave crickets. But I'm not getting close enough to kill that either. :crazy:
 

ceo_pte

New Member
Originally posted by pixiegirl
Me too. I love me some frogs. Bugs for the most part don't bother me but spiders give me the heebegeebees big time. Yall are going to laugh at me but...... I'll make deals with little spiders. I had one living in the corner of the ceiling above the shower. I saw it and I told it that I wouldn't kill it as long as every time I got in the shower he was in his web. If I ever got in and he wasn't there then the next time I saw him he was dead. He was always there and then one day just disappeared. Big spiders freak me out though. Unless they're huge and non venemous like tarantulas. But them big hairy things around the house, ughhhh. I'll make B kill one quick. I'm not getting close enough to it to kill it. Bugs for the most part don't bother me except those creepy cave crickets. But I'm not getting close enough to kill that either. :crazy:

After my cousins wedding we bought 150 crickets and put them in her car. They were leaving and driving straight to Atlanta... We had the videographer take some footage of the crickets making out in the car... :biggrin:
 

Hello6

Princess of Mean
Spidies freak me out too, but I try to be grown up about it. While I was living in Great Mills, I had a huge spider living on my bike rack on the back of the truck. He was there all summer and then one day, he was gone. I missed Spiderbob. :bawl: He'd build a web every night and I'd park by the lights for him to get the good fat motheras.
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
Originally posted by Hello6
Spidies freak me out too, but I try to be grown up about it. While I was living in Great Mills, I had a huge spider living on my bike rack on the back of the truck. He was there all summer and then one day, he was gone. I missed Spiderbob. :bawl: He'd build a web every night and I'd park by the lights for him to get the good fat motheras.

I miss my ladybugs. We had a TON of them in the house. They congregated in the corners and walked around. Then they slowly disappeared. Noah was the end of the last one. It was on the floor probably getting ready to die anyway and I pointed it out to him like a dummy. He picked it up and it died while he was holding it. We "set it free" on the front porch, lol.
 

Pete

Repete
Originally posted by pixiegirl
I miss my ladybugs. We had a TON of them in the house. They congregated in the corners and walked around. Then they slowly disappeared.
Maybe Noah thought they were candy? :shrug:
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
Originally posted by Pete
Maybe Noah thought they were candy? :shrug:

He didn't put it in hsi mouth just picked it up a little too forcefully I think. Who knew such timy fingers could be deadly. Seriously it had long outlived all the others and I think it was dying anyway cause it was on the floor instead of in it's corner. :frown: When we moved the couch there were two dead ones on the molding next to the carpet. B said "Look honey some of your friends are still here!" I had to tell him they were dead and just stuck there. :rolleyes: Men.
 

tlatchaw

Not dead yet.
Originally posted by Hello6
I am just retarded enough to feel bad for killing a frog or toad on the road. I'll even try to get bugs out of the house alive. I've even taken worms off of the sidewalk after the rain and they're starting to get too dry.
But I'll take a good steak any day, just no veal.

Be careful. Such tenderheartedness could lose you your title! :burning:
 
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