Another example of a legal system used as a revenue source

[Pete]

Tort and judical refom is needed desperatly. This small business owner was sued because the handicapped spot was "improperly marked", sink faucets were too high and a sign was in the wrong place by a serial litigant. It costs everyone in increased fees and costs because of get rich quick crackpots and scummy trial lawyers who think the federal court system is a mechanizm to scam people and earn a living.

 

[Lenny]

Tort and judical refom is needed desperatly. This small business owner was sued because the handicapped spot was "improperly marked", sink faucets were too high and a sign was in the wrong place by a serial litigant. It costs everyone in increased fees and costs because of get rich quick crackpots and scummy trial lawyers who think the federal court system is a mechanizm to scam people and earn a living.

My comment on this trend? :angry:

 

[Railroad]

You're absolutely right - that's about all that is, and the reforms are needed NOW-NOW-NOW. Suing is NOT the right way to get handicap access to a business.

Having said that, I have a whole new perspective on wheelchair ramps and handicap bathroom facilities and powered doors; also the width of aisles in stores, and whether or not they have the electric-powered scooter-style shopping carts. All of those items represent a significant investment by the business, but those of us that need those features really appreciate them. Quality of life sux when you can't get around and do even basic errands.

 

[Pete]

You're absolutely right - that's about all that is, and the reforms are needed NOW-NOW-NOW. Suing is NOT the right way to get handicap access to a business.

Having said that, I have a whole new perspective on wheelchair ramps and handicap bathroom facilities and powered doors; also the width of aisles in stores, and whether or not they have the electric-powered scooter-style shopping carts. All of those items represent a significant investment by the business, but those of us that need those features really appreciate them. Quality of life sux when you can't get around and do even basic errands.

True ADA requires this but the list of codes is immense. This particular law suit had nothing to do with accessability and all about being an ass and hoping for some quick jingle. Handicapped parking spot not labeled correctly? Sign hung in the worng place? OK, I could see the faucets too high, but at least notify the owner before scurrying off and xeroxing off your legal complaint and fillig in the name of the newest dupe.

It costs that small business owner $2200 to finght the lawsuit, but probably less than $100 to fix the discrepancies once he knew what they are. This guy doesn't give a flip about furthering disabled peoples access, he only cares about scaring the small business owner out of a quick settlement to split with his shyster lawyer.

People bad-mouth Walmart and it maybe warranted with regards to employee relations, but one thing that Walmart does is in NEVER settles torts, it fights them to the end. Walmart has the cash and an army of lawyers on the books, mom and pop don't. This is outragious.

 

[Railroad]

True ADA requires this but the list of codes is immense. This particular law suit had nothing to do with accessability and all about being an ass and hoping for some quick jingle. Handicapped parking spot not labeled correctly? Sign hung in the worng place? OK, I could see the faucets too high, but at least notify the owner before scurrying off and xeroxing off your legal complaint and fillig in the name of the newest dupe.

It costs that small business owner $2200 to finght the lawsuit, but probably less than $100 to fix the discrepancies once he knew what they are. This guy doesn't give a flip about furthering disabled peoples access, he only cares about scaring the small business owner out of a quick settlement to split with his shyster lawyer.

People bad-mouth Walmart and it maybe warranted with regards to employee relations, but one thing that Walmart does is in NEVER settles torts, it fights them to the end. Walmart has the cash and an army of lawyers on the books, mom and pop don't. This is outragious.

It sure is, Pete. This lawsuit is very frivolous. My comments about accessibility were really an aside, rather than directly addressing the issue at hand.

 

[DoWhat]

mom and pop don't.

Speaking of Mom and Pop. Did your parents re-build the restaurant?

 

[AC/DC]

Hobleman

What an odd yet fitting name for the guy.

 

[alex]

I thought the 90 day period to fix a problem before being sued was a good compromise. But I would like it to allow for contractor problems. What if a business in all good faith has contracted to fix the problems but the contractor hits a snag that causes the job to take longer than 90 days to fix?

 

[Pete]

Speaking of Mom and Pop. Did your parents re-build the restaurant?

No, they lost too much revenue during the closed period and could not recover.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Sorry rr, you will probably take offense at this, but I must state that the odds of getting tort reform from a body that consists mainly of lawyers is pretty slim. I really think a good litmus test for candidates for the legislature is "Is this person a lawyer? Yes? Don't vote for them".

 

[dems4me]

Sorry rr, you will probably take offense at this, but I must state that the odds of getting tort reform from a body that consists mainly of lawyers is pretty slim. I really think a good litmus test for candidates for the legislature is "Is this person a lawyer? Yes? Don't vote for them".

 

[rraley]

Let me just say that there are slimey trial lawyers (ambulance chasers) and legitimate trial lawyers (lawyers for the people). This one case fits in the former.

 

[Railroad]

Sorry rr, you will probably take offense at this, but I must state that the odds of getting tort reform from a body that consists mainly of lawyers is pretty slim. I really think a good litmus test for candidates for the legislature is "Is this person a lawyer? Yes? Don't vote for them".

No offense taken! Yup, you're probably right.

 

[2ndAmendment]

No offense taken! Yup, you're probably right.

Wrong RR. When I say rr, i mean rraley. I will be more clear in the future since RR does indeed stand for Railroad.