Nonno
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Evidently it's all up to the individual Bishop to decide the best course of action.
SSRN-Abortion, Bishops, Eucharist, and Politicians: A Question of Communion by Gregory Sisk, Charles Reid
Archbishop Wuerl addresses Pelosi on abortion
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SSRN-Abortion, Bishops, Eucharist, and Politicians: A Question of Communion by Gregory Sisk, Charles Reid
ItalianScallion
Harley Rider
Uh Libby, read your history books. The RCC is notoriously interested in political power and money so as to advance it's agenda (control). Revelation even implicates Rome in more than a few chapters regarding the end of the world. A word to the wise....Now that's wisdom...gotta figure the worst out of every situation, huh?
ItalianScallion
Harley Rider
Don't worry your little heart my friend, you'll have plenty of "freedom of religion" one day. In fact, you'll be able to spend eternity shaking hands with ALL the false gods since they'll all be there to. And you can hate us for caring about you since our voices will haunt you forever.
Oh ok, we're closer [to] the theocracies that we despise huh? Whatever Jesus was, we're trying to be like so I guess we're pretty bad off, eh? Son, you haven't 1/2 a clue as to what it will be like when these hell bound fools elect a muslim to be President. Then you'll see what freedom of religion ISN'T! You think a few of us here are "forcing" you with our words? Try telling the muslims that they're wrong while their swords at your throat and try dealing with all the restrictions that go with their "religion of peace". Ready to bow to Mecca 3 times a day? Ready to die for your faith? Ready to go through the great tribulation? Get behind me satan. Boy, you'll be begging for Christianity!
FYI, the founding fathers could not have set this country on it's moral way without God's guidance. Yes, even the Deists were guided by God so that His purpose would happen and they didn't even know it. They weren't guided by allah, mohammed, buddah, the mormon god or anyone else but the ONLY God. Jesus came to earth and died to show people the ONLY way to Heaven. Just because you're not interested in going there doesn't mean that you should spend your entire life trying to take people with you to hell. Since every word you say against God is going to be used against you on judgment day, I'd NEVER say another word from here on out.... You've said enough to tide you over for 300 years.
The RCC has had it's bums, no one is going to deny that. However, if you and 2A were not so blinded by your hatred of anything Catholic, you would take note that Catholic faithful and the Catholic Church (heirarchy, if you will) have done exponentially more good worldwide over 2000 years.Uh Libby, read your history books. The RCC is notoriously interested in political power and money so as to advance it's agenda (control). Revelation even implicates Rome in more than a few chapters regarding the end of the world. A word to the wise....
The first free schools in America were begun by St. Elizabeth Ann Seton, and children were taught by priests and nuns for hundreds of years worldwide. The poor have been served by Catholic Charities, St. Vincent de Paul organizations, etc. The sick have been cared for by hospitals which, until recent years, were run by holy nuns.
Control is not synonymous with teaching and guiding the faithful. The entire thread on Nancy Pelosi, and all of the pro-abort, pro-gay politicians clearly shows that the Church does not "control" anyone.
As for Rome and Revelation, you are utterly absurd. So, I'll take a lesson from your very own handbook and tell you " Just wait until you face Jesus and have explain how you blasphemed the Church He established!! You'll be like the rich man who wants to return to warn his brothers, but tooooo laaaate!" A word to the wise.
Xaquin44
New Member
He knows this too people
you better listen
After all, someone told him this would happen.
and everyone knows that everything you're told is always true.
everything.
GSXR_MOE
Adding Diversity to SOMD
1) From you statement, I clearly see that you are pro choice. No pro life person defends ("applauds") abortion and no Christian says ANYTHING good about Nazi Pelosi. Also, there is no separation of church & state but there IS a separation of state & church. Ya follow me?
2) Just because someone doesn't believe in hell, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
3) All our MORAL laws, yes. Everything else would fall into place if we did.
You’re absolutely correct, I am Pro CHOICE. If feel people should be allowed to chose what they want to do in regard to Abortions. If your religion dictates that you cannot, that is up to you and your God. I don't think we should write our laws based on Religion.
So are actually staying that anyone who supports Pelosi cannot be a Christian??
You my friend are really crazy.Can you please explain your whole State and Church, Church and State thing.... because I don't follow ya...
If you think our moral laws should be governed by that Bible, do you think people should go to jail for cheating on their spouse??
Thank you.The RCC has had it's bums, no one is going to deny that. However, if you and 2A were not so blinded by your hatred of anything Catholic, you would take note that Catholic faithful and the Catholic Church (heirarchy, if you will) have done exponentially more good worldwide over 2000 years.
The first free schools in America were begun by St. Elizabeth Ann Seton, and children were taught by priests and nuns for hundreds of years worldwide. The poor have been served by Catholic Charities, St. Vincent de Paul organizations, etc. The sick have been cared for by hospitals which, until recent years, were run by holy nuns.
Control is not synonymous with teaching and guiding the faithful. The entire thread on Nancy Pelosi, and all of the pro-abort, pro-gay politicians clearly shows that the Church does not "control" anyone.
As for Rome and Revelation, you are utterly absurd. So, I'll take a lesson from your very own handbook and tell you " Just wait until you face Jesus and have explain how you blasphemed the Church He established!! You'll be like the rich man who wants to return to warn his brothers, but tooooo laaaate!" A word to the wise.
I do not hate anything Catholic. I do not hate Catholics. Some of my best friends are or were raised Catholic. I do not agree with all of Catholic doctrine. There is a marked difference between hate and don't agree. What kind of Christian would I be to hate anyone? Just because you are Catholic and I am not does not mean we are not Christian brother and sister.
If you have the love of Christ in you, you owe me an apology.
This_person
Well-Known Member
Just as an aside into reality - critical, objective analysis of abortion can certainly be that it is murder. This is without any religious influence. So, being against abortion and for the life of the child is not ONLY a religious concept.You’re absolutely correct, I am Pro CHOICE. If feel people should be allowed to chose what they want to do in regard to Abortions. If your religion dictates that you cannot, that is up to you and your God. I don't think we should write our laws based on Religion.
So are actually staying that anyone who supports Pelosi cannot be a Christian??
Can you please explain your whole State and Church, Church and State thing.... because I don't follow ya...
If you think our moral laws should be governed by that Bible, do you think people should go to jail for cheating on their spouse??
However, I suspect you will neglect this concept, as it isn't the fight you want to have, so, please resume your biased argument.
GSXR_MOE
Adding Diversity to SOMD
Well abortion is NOT Murder.. Roe V. Wade....
In Islam, they are still stoned to death. That was the original punishment under Judaism, too. Then Y'shua came and gave us the way of forgiveness.
GSXR_MOE
Adding Diversity to SOMD
So is that a yes??
This_person
Well-Known Member
You'd like to quote the law as your source?
How about the State of California vs. Scott Peterson (the guy convicted of murder of his unborn baby)?
I said abortion could objectively be viewed that way (and I happen to subscribe to that view). You don't agree, and that's your choice. Many laws imply it is, others imply it's not. That is what makes it a controversy!
Aren't you glad your mother didn't not murder you? Roe V. Wade may have given women the right to terminate a pregnancy, but the termination is still the killing of a human. Murder or manslaughter or abortion, the result is the same. A human life is no more.
Don't read well, huh?
GSXR_MOE
Adding Diversity to SOMD
Come on now, the whole Scott Peterson thing was a completely different matter. Where talking apples vs. Oranges...You'd like to quote the law as your source?
How about the State of California vs. Scott Peterson (the guy convicted of murder of his unborn baby)?
I said abortion could objectively be viewed that way (and I happen to subscribe to that view). You don't agree, and that's your choice. Many laws imply it is, others imply it's not. That is what makes it a controversy!
Your right, it is a very controversial subject.. But we can go round and round about when life starts... but it really doesn't matter because nobody really knows for sure.....
My point was, you cannot justify doing away w/ abortion because the Bible says so…..but you took it this way…
Nope. The fetus was judged to be a human life. Scott Peterson was charged and convicted of two murders.
GSXR_MOE
Adding Diversity to SOMD
Actually I didn't read the scripture.... I was looking for a direct answer from you...
My answer is in the scripture.
GSXR_MOE
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Well isn’t that a bit hypocritical. I thought there was a commandment that said, thou shall not commit adultery.
Xaquin44
New Member
what are your views on in vitro?