Assault on Ceiling Fans

[GURPS]

The Biden Admin Is Going After Another Common Household Item in the Name of Climate Change​

Rightfully, the letter points out that "America's small businesses deserve to have their voices heard and considered," and asks the Department of Energy for more information on the policy to get a better idea of what the new energy consumption standard would mean for Americans.

Here's what the committee wants to know:

1. Did the DOE consider allowing small business fan manufacturers to attest that they are using a DOE compliant electric motor, or other forms of alternative compliance, as a means of complying with this proposed rule?
2. In the impact calculation, did the DOE expect small businesses to abandon some of their product lines to comply with this rule, or that these businesses would redesign their products?
3. Does the DOE expect this rule to decrease the availability of large diameter, or belt driven ceiling fans?
4. What additional costs would a small business, such as a restaurant, incur when purchasing a new ceiling fan that complies with these updated standards?
5. Does the DOE believe “Small Business 1” in Table VI.1 will go out of business as a result of this rule?
a. Does the DOE believe “Small Business 2” in Table VI.1 will go out of business as a result of this rule?
b. Does the DOE believe “Small Business 3” in Table VI.1 will go out of business as a result of this rule?

 

[herb749]

Cost of ceiling fans just went up .

 

[PrchJrkr]

Cost of ceiling fans just went up .

They may as well. Everything else has. FJB!!!

 

[GURPS]

raise the cost of ceiling fans to save a whopping $ 40 over the life span of the fan, so for me that would be almost 30 yrs before the capacitor ate itself

yeah there is a saving I am going to notice


I am wondering when the demands to raise computer power supplies all be platinum level efficacy and you get locked out of power settings mandating a sleep mode or shut down after 5 min of idle

 

[GURPS]

Ceiling fan efficiency rule draws ire of House Republicans​

“This proposed rule would decrease the maximum estimated energy consumption permissible for large diameter and belt driven ceiling fans,” committee Republicans wrote. “This rule would require numerous small business fan manufacturers to redesign their products and may put between 10 and 30 percent of small business ceiling fan manufacturers out of business. It appears that the Department of Energy may not have properly considered small entities during this rulemaking process.”

An Energy Department spokesperson told The Hill this aspect has been mischaracterized, saying in an email that the one-time total conversion cost would be about $107 million for all manufacturers.

“The incremental cost to consumers is $86.6 million annually, while the operating cost savings are $281 million annually — both at a 7 percent discount rate,” the spokesperson said. “The savings are more than triple the incremental costs.”

The spokesperson noted the standards, “which are required by Congress,” would not be in effect for five years and would save Americans “up to $369 million per year, while substantially reducing harmful air pollution — a crucial fact that some have conveniently failed to mention.”

 

[Bare-ya-cuda]

Ceiling fan efficiency rule draws ire of House Republicans​

“This proposed rule would decrease the maximum estimated energy consumption permissible for large diameter and belt driven ceiling fans,” committee Republicans wrote. “This rule would require numerous small business fan manufacturers to redesign their products and may put between 10 and 30 percent of small business ceiling fan manufacturers out of business. It appears that the Department of Energy may not have properly considered small entities during this rulemaking process.”

An Energy Department spokesperson told The Hill this aspect has been mischaracterized, saying in an email that the one-time total conversion cost would be about $107 million for all manufacturers.

“The incremental cost to consumers is $86.6 million annually, while the operating cost savings are $281 million annually — both at a 7 percent discount rate,” the spokesperson said. “The savings are more than triple the incremental costs.”

The spokesperson noted the standards, “which are required by Congress,” would not be in effect for five years and would save Americans “up to $369 million per year, while substantially reducing harmful air pollution — a crucial fact that some have conveniently failed to mention.”

The only acceptable electric energy consumption will be to charge your EV.

 

[glhs837]

"but if they mean to have a war......"

(I know, history has shown that this quote, which I grew up reading on the Battle Green on our frequent childhood bicycle trips from Waltham to Lexington and then Concord, isn't quite accurate, but screw that, I'll keep the sentiment and story, thanks)

(Imagine parents letting a group of four or five 10-12 year old boys leaving home about 8am Saturday morning and riding their bikes on an almost 30 mile round trip along public roads with no check-ins expected until maybe dinner time )

 

[WingsOfGold]

Hmmmm how much does he waste on AF1 EVERY weekend?

 

[Sneakers]

The only acceptable electric energy consumption will be to charge your EV.

But only when they say you can.

 

[Sneakers]

(Imagine parents letting a group of four or five 10-12 year old boys leaving home about 8am Saturday morning and riding their bikes on an almost 30 mile round trip along public roads with no check-ins expected until maybe dinner time )

Average day for us.

 

[Hijinx]

How much pollution and waste did they have when they flew to Hawaii for 6 hrs so Joe could hear the people there saying Phuck Joe Biden.,

 

[TPD]

Why stop at a ceiling fan? Make alarm clocks without a snooze button - that should save at least 50 cents a year in electricity for me. Hairdryers that blow cold air only, electric mixers with only one beater, printers that only print 1 color and 4 b&w pages per day, televisions that only show MSDNC from 6pm - 11pm. There are so many possibilities for saving electricity in order to keep our Teslas charged!

 

[GURPS]

Nothing is Safe. Now the Biden Administration Wants to Regulate Your Ceiling Fan​

Meanwhile, Republicans on the Small Business Committee are questioning the wisdom of rules that will save consumers pennies a year but very well might cost thousands of jobs as some small ceiling fan manufacturers are likely to go out of business. They sent a letter to Jennifer Granholm inquiring about the new regulations.

“It is important for agencies to examine small businesses interests—which make up 99.9 percent of all businesses in the United States—when passing any new rule. America’s small businesses deserve to have their voices heard and considered,” the lawmakers wrote.

Washington Examiner:

The lawmakers argued that the rule would require numerous small business fan manufacturers to redesign their products, potentially putting 10%-30% of these businesses out of business.
The letter lists out a series of questions to the DOE, requesting information on additional costs to businesses complying with the rule, alternative solutions to the proposed policy, impact calculations, and whether or not certain businesses will go out of business because of the rule.
The DOE’s rule, which was proposed in June but whose public comment period ended on Monday, would require ceiling fans to be more energy efficient, reasoning that the move could save households anywhere between $28 to $39 over the lifespan of a new fan. However, the estimated increased equipment costs are expected to be $86.6 million per year.

DOE defended the new regs in a statement to Fox Business on Friday, saying, “These proposed standards, which are required by Congress, wouldn’t take effect until 2028, would give Americans more energy efficient options to choose from, and would save hardworking taxpayers up to $369 million per year, while substantially reducing harmful air pollution — a crucial fact that some have conveniently failed to mention.”

There’s nothing “convenient” about trading a few cents savings per year per ceiling fan for the loss of thousands of jobs. That’s a “crucial fact” that the dullards at DOE “conveniently failed to mention.”

The DOE has proposed new standards for gas stoves, ovens, washing machines, refrigerators, air conditioners, dishwashers, and other household appliances in recent months in a maniacal effort to cut a few cents from our electric bills. Even combined, the savings amount to far less than other actions the government could take — like deregulating parts of the electric industry that are overburdened with rules. That action would save far more than the government’s single-minded desire to regulate every aspect of our lives.

And if saving the planet from climate change is that important, why isn’t the Biden administration doing more to force China to stop polluting the planet with massive amounts of CO2? Why not demand that China not build 300 coal-fired electricity-generating plants over the next couple of years?