Assault on Gas Stoves
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frequentflier
happy to be living
So are cigarettes but they aren't banning them or banning smoking around children.
The house my parents bought when I was 7 in March 1964 was built in 1915. The gas light fixtures were still in the front hall and kitchen. They were disconnected, as was the house, from the gas lines. Gas had been provided by a coal gasification plant, which was across the river.
Sneakers
Just sneakin' around....
Saw a show on that recently.... maybe it was This Old House? The original gas lines provided by the gassification plant to the homes had no shut off valves at the lamps. That came years later.
As I remember, ours did have a valve. They were very nice looking, cast bronze, as were the top and bottom of the water heater, which was in the kitchen. The main body of the water heater was a tall copper cylinder. Dad, who was an oil burner technician, moved that into the cellar and replumbed it within a couple weeks. The new refrigerator went where it was.
The city decided to raze the gas plant in the 1970's. It was so well built to withstand explosions that it took a decade to get it down the the foundation, which is still there and used a a parking lot for a river side park.
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TPD
the poor dad
Taylor Gas on GMR has gas lights outside of their building entrance
it would be a hell of a lot easier to list the restaurants that don't cook with fire (wood or gas)
Short list, just like the Biden family book of ethics
Grumpy
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I have a few concealable assault gas stoves.
my ex used a gas stove as a weapon every time she cooked
glhs837
Power with Control
The proper counter to that is for you to use a Dutch Oven
27 Household Items That Pose A Greater Risk To Your Kids Than A Gas Stove
Many corporate media news consumers, parents in particular, began taking the alleged threat of a gas stove in their homes seriously as they devoured and shared headlines like WaPo’s “Gas stove pollution causes 12.7% of childhood asthma,” and The New York Times’ “Your Gas Stove May Be Killing You. How Much Should You Worry?”
The influential parenting data expert and self-described “vagina economist,” Emily Oster blasted out her weekly email newsletter with the subject line “Gas Stoves and Asthma,” describing the “panicked emails and DMs” she received from her readers. Local news outlets latched on to the “advice for parents” angle, and parenting blogs asked pediatricians to weigh in.
But as The Washington Free Beacon reported on Monday, the study behind the Consumer Product Safety commissioner’s call to ban gas stoves not only fails to prove a connection between gas stoves and asthma but was funded by a green energy group with ties to the Chinese government.
“The study — which spans just nine paragraphs — was based on a hodgepodge of different data and methodologies spanning various years and countries, ranging from 2019 U.S. Census data to conclusions from a 2018 analysis in Australia,” Free Beacon reporters Collin Anderson and Joseph Simonson found.
Beyond its public mission statement and work with the Chinese government, the Rocky Mountain Institute's biases are reflected in its gas-stove study, academic leaders told the Free Beacon. The study—which spans just nine paragraphs—was based on a hodgepodge of different data and methodologies spanning various years and countries, ranging from 2019 U.S. Census data to conclusions from a 2018 analysis in Australia.
Structuring a study that way is questionable, according to Yale University professor of medicine Dr. Harvey Risch. Moreover, the conclusions of the institute's study differs from what the organization is saying publicly.
"This paper does not do any research on possible association between residential natural gas use and risk of childhood asthma," Risch told the Free Beacon. "It only calculates a percent of childhood asthma that could be attributable to residential natural gas use and risk of childhood asthma."
That distinction is important, Risch said, particularly when calling for such a dramatic public policy proposal that would change how tens of millions of Americans prepare their food. The study was also ethically dubious, according to Risch, as its authors stated they held no conflicts of interest despite working for climate change activist groups. The Rocky Mountain Institute's board, for example, is filled with executives at green energy corporations with a financial interest in banning the use of fossil fuels.
Also included among those board members is Wei Ding, the founder and chairman of the Chinese private equity firm Broad River Capital. Ding started the firm after serving as chairman of the China International Capital Corporation (CICC), a partially state-owned investment bank. Former CICC executives include Chinese leader Xi Jinping's vice president and right-hand man, Wang Qishan, while the corporation's website highlights its "deep participation in China's economic reforms and development" and goal to "serve the nation." The Rocky Mountain Institute also sits on the China Clean Transportation Partnership, a Chinese green energy nonprofit whose founding members include China's National Development and Reform Commission and Ministry of Transport.
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In addition to the Rocky Mountain Institute's green energy biases, the nonprofit's lead authors on the study hold no formal advanced scientific training or education. Talor Gruenwald, who works as a researcher at the group, holds a master of international affairs. Brady Seals, who heads the institute's "Carbon-Free Buildings" program, graduated with an MBA from the University of South Dakota.
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Structuring a study that way is questionable, according to Yale University professor of medicine Dr. Harvey Risch. Moreover, the conclusions of the institute's study differs from what the organization is saying publicly.
"This paper does not do any research on possible association between residential natural gas use and risk of childhood asthma," Risch told the Free Beacon. "It only calculates a percent of childhood asthma that could be attributable to residential natural gas use and risk of childhood asthma."
That distinction is important, Risch said, particularly when calling for such a dramatic public policy proposal that would change how tens of millions of Americans prepare their food. The study was also ethically dubious, according to Risch, as its authors stated they held no conflicts of interest despite working for climate change activist groups. The Rocky Mountain Institute's board, for example, is filled with executives at green energy corporations with a financial interest in banning the use of fossil fuels.
Also included among those board members is Wei Ding, the founder and chairman of the Chinese private equity firm Broad River Capital. Ding started the firm after serving as chairman of the China International Capital Corporation (CICC), a partially state-owned investment bank. Former CICC executives include Chinese leader Xi Jinping's vice president and right-hand man, Wang Qishan, while the corporation's website highlights its "deep participation in China's economic reforms and development" and goal to "serve the nation." The Rocky Mountain Institute also sits on the China Clean Transportation Partnership, a Chinese green energy nonprofit whose founding members include China's National Development and Reform Commission and Ministry of Transport.
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In addition to the Rocky Mountain Institute's green energy biases, the nonprofit's lead authors on the study hold no formal advanced scientific training or education. Talor Gruenwald, who works as a researcher at the group, holds a master of international affairs. Brady Seals, who heads the institute's "Carbon-Free Buildings" program, graduated with an MBA from the University of South Dakota.
Meet the Green Energy Group Behind the Study That's Driving Calls To Ban Gas Stoves
The green energy group behind a study cited in Consumer Product Safety commissioner Richard Trumka Jr.'s call to ban gas stoves has partnered with the Chinese government to implement an "economy-wide transformation" away from oil and gas.
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Hijinx
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They will do to gas stoves what they are doing to your automobile.
They will slow the gas supply, which will raise the price until you either cannot get the gas or it's too expensive.
Then they will switch you over to electric which they will then raise the cost of electricity and the moguls who just stuffed that electric stove up your ass will sit back getting richer and laugh their ass off Follow the money.
Somebody is getting rich off solar panels, windmills and batteries .
Look at a the deep mines being dug to supply the things needed for this change and tell me these turd burglars care about the environment.
They will slow the gas supply, which will raise the price until you either cannot get the gas or it's too expensive.
Then they will switch you over to electric which they will then raise the cost of electricity and the moguls who just stuffed that electric stove up your ass will sit back getting richer and laugh their ass off Follow the money.
Somebody is getting rich off solar panels, windmills and batteries .
Look at a the deep mines being dug to supply the things needed for this change and tell me these turd burglars care about the environment.
Department of Energy Makes Major Push to Regulate Gas Stoves and Ovens
https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2023/01/18/gas-1200x806.jpgThe Energy Department’s proposal would set limits on energy consumption for the stoves and energy usage standards on both electric and gas stoves and ovens. Both gas and electric stoves would have to meet certain thresholds for energy efficiency, the proposed rule stated.
“As required by Congress, the Department of Energy is proposing efficiency standards for gas and electric cooktops—we are not proposing bans on either,” an Energy Department spokesperson said in a statement to news outlets Wednesday. “The proposed standards would not go into effect until 2027 and cumulatively save the nation up to $1.7 billion. Every major manufacturer has products that meet or exceed the requirements proposed today.”
Energy savings from the rule would improve the security and reliability of the nation’s energy system, the DOE said, estimating that the standards could enable energy savings of 3.4 percent relative to a scenario without the standards. It also estimated manufacturers would incur total conversion costs of $183.4 million to comply with the standards.
The agency said it has “tentatively concluded that the proposed standards represent the maximum improvement in energy efficiency that is technologically feasible and economically justified,” adding that it estimates “in order to bring products into compliance with new and amended standards, it is estimated that the industry would incur total conversion costs of $183.4 million.”
PeoplesElbow
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Guess I'll be buying that Viking while I can and store the perfectly fine working Maytag.
Agee
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"In a notice of proposed rule-making, the Department of Energy said it has "tentatively concluded" that new energy conservation standards for stove appliances would be technologically feasible and economically justified. The agency proposed new limitations on how much energy electric stove tops (both coil and smooth) and gas cooking tops may consume in a year.
In a shift, the Department proposes to end the prohibition on constant burning pilot lights in gas stoves, but says a stove with a constant burning pilot light would not meet the new efficiency standards."
"The department argued that stove appliances achieving its proposed standards are already commercially available and that the benefits to consumers and the climate exceed the potential burdens."
I read; An electric/ gas stove is only allowed to operate for a preset period as we see fit ! In other words you have a energy consumption meter on your appliance and its shuts down after allotted time expires, wait for it to reset?
WOW, does this ever stop?
In a shift, the Department proposes to end the prohibition on constant burning pilot lights in gas stoves, but says a stove with a constant burning pilot light would not meet the new efficiency standards."
"The department argued that stove appliances achieving its proposed standards are already commercially available and that the benefits to consumers and the climate exceed the potential burdens."
I read; An electric/ gas stove is only allowed to operate for a preset period as we see fit ! In other words you have a energy consumption meter on your appliance and its shuts down after allotted time expires, wait for it to reset?
WOW, does this ever stop?