Attention NYC resident

[Pete]

[robotvoice]This is the NYC saving you from yourself system. It appears that you have excceded your daily allowance of transfat, you requested meal purchase has been de-nied. Report to the food center for your NYC subsistance meal #2.[/robotvoice]


Another example of Government saving you from yourself.

 

[vraiblonde]

Fascism is alive and well in New York City, I see.

And Raley, in case you read this thread, their mayor is a Republican and the biggest tard in the whole USofA. Pick on him instead of Bush - he deserves it.

 

[hvp05]

Well, the transfats can be damaging to one's health. But if I know that and still choose to eat a meal prepared with one or more such ingredients, why should anyone else care? Especially when, for every meal I enjoy at a restaurant I eat five, ten or twenty at home.

 

[willie]

Why not get rid of the trans fats if they are, in fact, as bad as they say? It is a cost problem like most problems but maybe it's worth it. I dunno but I just finished a yellow crook neck deep fried in Peanut oil and wish I had a couple of more.

New York is just asking VOLUNTARY compliance and that sounds OK to me....mandatory would be whole different thing. I, for one, would start buying the "combo" if the fries were done with peanut or olive oil. With a little publicity, this might be a big selling point for complying restaurants.

 

[hvp05]

asking VOLUNTARY compliance... this might be a big selling point for complying restaurants.

You just inadvertently identified the problem: if a restaurant owner decides against this action he and his establishment could be looked down upon. "Don't you care about your diners' well-being?!" But why should the government become involved either way? If I care enough about my health to monitor every gram of trans-fat, salt, carbs, etc. then I will take the initiative to inquire before I place an order. Restaurants shouldn't hide health information, but they shouldn't be coerced into publicizing it either.

It seems that, before long, all of these "protective measures" will leave us with nothing more than sanitized, bland lumps of crud. "Hmm, should I have the red or the green lump of tofu?"

 

[willie]

No, I just purposely identified the problem. Cutting cost at the expense of the customers health. By all indications, trans fats are very bad for us. There doesn't have to be a taste difference, only a cost difference that I would gladly pay. If someone, in this case the State Government, didn't nudge the business owner, they would feed you poo-poo if it were cheaper.

 

[vraiblonde]

If someone, in this case the State Government, didn't nudge the business owner, they would feed you poo-poo if it were cheaper.

Why do you say that? Most restaurants go for taste over cheaper COGS. If the food is crap, people won't eat there. If the food is tasty, they will. They're business people - they don't need the state telling them what they can and cannot serve.

Anyway, you can see what people want to eat by checking out the crowds at NYC's Heartland Brewery (probably trans-fat heaven) vs. the local falafel joint. They know the falafel is healthier for them - they don't care.

 

[hvp05]

No, I just purposely identified the problem. Cutting cost at the expense of the customers health.

Different problem...

The entire food industry is using these ingredients, though; they can be found in restaurant foods or in your supermarket's freezer. As Vrai said, people go where the food is good, which creates demand... if there was enough demand for trans-fat free foods the restaurants would accomodate. Look at last year's Atkins revolution; food producers and restaurants didn't need the government to tell them to reduce carbs.

There doesn't have to be a taste difference...

When I spoke of foods becoming more bland I was alluding to Pete's original post. If the Food Police have their way we will end up eating boring foods. It is distressing to look at a package's ingredient list and see a littany of things I do not recognize; our pre-processing and preserving practices have become kind of extreme. But the battle to remove everything bad from our national diet is absurd as well.

You know, many of the folks who reach the centarian milestone live in places like Italy and China, where they eat foods that are supposedly bad. Those folks are better off, however, because they intake moderate portions that are prepared naturally. That is a considerably better option than living to one or another extreme then hoping that your doctor can save you later.

 

[willie]

I'm allergic to crowds in NYC and my thoughts on this are mainly fast food joints and anyplace that deep fries onions and shrimp. McDonald's, for one, has said that they are going to change the type of fat they use but last I heard, that hasn't happened. Why? Money? You say "they don't need the state telling them what they can and cannot serve." They are not. They are asking them and they are reminding the consumer that trans fat is bad for you. I sure don't want warning labels on my coconut battered shrimp or any government interference and this is not interference. If one of your Heartland Brewery eateries cooks with a non trans fat oil that tastes the same as the bad stuff they will only gain customers.

 

[willie]

I just thought of something almost off topic
Some people are very seriously allergic to peanuts. Would that include peanut cooking oil?

 

[kwillia]

I just thought of something almost off topic
Some people are very seriously allergic to peanuts. Would that include peanut cooking oil?

Yep... it includes anything that so much as touches a peanut.

 

[FromTexas]

Yep... it includes anything that so much as touches a peanut.

What if you post in a thread where peanut posts?

 

[kwillia]

What if you post in a thread where peanut posts?

It makes me feel and I don't usually have a bad reaction to peanuts...:shrug:

 

[Kizzy]

What if you post in a thread where peanut posts?

I think that only makes you a tard?


But I could be wrong. :shrug: