Biblical Considerations

[BORAT]

I just recieved this over email, thought it was interesting. Not so much being directed at Bush, and was actually going to take it out but the first paragraph sets up the rest of the email.

Dear President Bush,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have
learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and
support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said
"in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to
share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to
defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of
God's Laws and how to follow them:

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female,
provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine
claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?
Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus
21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her
period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I
tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They
claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill
him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I
don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a
defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my
vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair
around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27.
How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me
unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different
crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two
different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse
and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble
of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we
just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people
who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy
considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and
unchanging.

 

[Sharon]

You did NOT post this again!

 

[tlatchaw]

Interesting old testament quotes. I think it's important to remember that you quoted these items as being from the Bible, and not just the Torah, so maybe you should look into the new testament as well.

While you're there, see if you can pick up that much of the old laws that you quoted are confusing and can be contradictory as well. This is part of what made it necessary for people to bring sacrifices to the temple frequently.

The new testament teaches us that ONE sacrifice of ONE perfect and sinless human being was all that it took to bridge the gap between God and Mankind. Jesus died for you while you are yet a sinner, and he did it for me too.

I hope you enjoyed your little hit and run rant. I encourage to read the Bible even more.

 

[BORAT]

Interesting old testament quotes. I think it's important to remember that you quoted these items as being from the Bible, and not just the Torah, so maybe you should look into the new testament as well.

While you're there, see if you can pick up that much of the old laws that you quoted are confusing and can be contradictory as well. This is part of what made it necessary for people to bring sacrifices to the temple frequently.

The new testament teaches us that ONE sacrifice of ONE perfect and sinless human being was all that it took to bridge the gap between God and Mankind. Jesus died for you while you are yet a sinner, and he did it for me too.

I hope you enjoyed your little hit and run rant. I encourage to read the Bible even more.

Soooo.... eating shellfish is still bad?

 

[UrbanPancake]

Interesting old testament quotes. I think it's important to remember that you quoted these items as being from the Bible, and not just the Torah, so maybe you should look into the new testament as well.

While you're there, see if you can pick up that much of the old laws that you quoted are confusing and can be contradictory as well. This is part of what made it necessary for people to bring sacrifices to the temple frequently.

The new testament teaches us that ONE sacrifice of ONE perfect and sinless human being was all that it took to bridge the gap between God and Mankind. Jesus died for you while you are yet a sinner, and he did it for me too.

I hope you enjoyed your little hit and run rant. I encourage to read the Bible even more.

Why is there so much editing of the Bible? I thought it was God's word? Does God's word change over time......

 

[Dixie]

Doesn't anybody remember this from West Wing? First year it was on I believe. President Bartlett makes pretty much this same speech, don't remember what the circumstances were but he really delivered.

 

[dems4me]

Doesn't anybody remember this from West Wing? First year it was on I believe. President Bartlett makes pretty much this same speech, don't remember what the circumstances were but he really delivered.

Dixie!!

 

[Ken King]

Doesn't anybody remember this from West Wing? First year it was on I believe. President Bartlett makes pretty much this same speech, don't remember what the circumstances were but he really delivered.

I remember that, it was something like "Dr. Laura", the radio talk show personality that remained seated when the President entered the room? She wasn't a MD, or a mental health professional but had her PHD in literature. One of the best reamings I have ever seen delivered.

 

[SamSpade]

Why is there so much editing of the Bible? I thought it was God's word? Does God's word change over time......

No, it doesn't - but ignorance of it is rampant.

If you don't understand Biblical concepts, you shouldn't dabble here. Any student of the New Testament knows that the Jewish dietary laws along with the rest of the Law is not binding on Christianity.

This is an OLD list (I've seen variations for at least 10-15 years) but its intent is to amuse. It's not serious Biblical exegesis.

 

[Charles]

No, it doesn't - but ignorance of it is rampant.

If you don't understand Biblical concepts, you shouldn't dabble here. Any student of the New Testament knows that the Jewish dietary laws along with the rest of the Law is not binding on Christianity.

This is an OLD list (I've seen variations for at least 10-15 years) but its intent is to amuse. It's not serious Biblical exegesis.

Why did you use the word exegesis ?

 

[SoMDGuy1980]

Why is there so much editing of the Bible? I thought it was God's word? Does God's word change over time......

Translations of the Bible are constantly being revised over time, as scholars learn more about the ancient languages it was written in. The content is basically the same, but the wording changes.

Many old texts are retranslated over time to better conform to the original meaning of the original language. Scholars are constantly learning more about ancient languages and have a better understanding. I'd be willing to bet you that Homer's Illiad is different today than it was 200 years ago, or Plato's Republic. If that's the case, then why would it bother you that the wording in the Bible is different?

 

[SoMDGuy1980]

Why did you use the word exegesis ?

Because exegesis is the proper word for for Biblical commentary.

So Charles, your word for the day can be "exegesis." Try using it in a sentence today.

 

[Charles]

Because exegesis is the proper word for for Biblical commentary.

So Charles, your word for the day can be "exegesis." Try using it in a sentence today.

I've got a Doctorate in Carpentry and even I didn't know what that word meant.

 

[Penn]

I'm going to repeat something from a post I inserted on the boards at least a year and a half ago:

The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1946 yielded many parchments, documents and such.

One of these documents was the Book of Isaiah. It was written in Aramaic, I believe, some 500 to 600 hundred years before the coming of the Messiah.

It allegedly translates to about 95% of what today's Bibles say in the text.

If ever there was a document that was as prophetic as Isaiah, you might think if the rumors were true that Bible scripture has been corrupted by man, that this one would be a prime example.

But this is not the case, as has been shown.

So much for the Word of God being changed by mankind through the years.

 

[SoMDGuy1980]

I'm going to repeat something from a post I inserted on the boards at least a year and a half ago:

The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1946 yielded many parchments, documents and such.

One of these documents was the Book of Isaiah. It was written in Aramaic, I believe, some 500 to 600 hundred years before the coming of the Messiah.

It allegedly translates to about 95% of what today's Bibles say in the text.

If ever there was a document that was as prophetic as Isaiah, you might think if the rumors were true that Bible scripture has been corrupted by man, that this one would be a prime example.

But this is not the case, as has been shown.

So much for the Word of God being changed by mankind through the years.

Exactly, and the discovery of those scrolls probably taught scholars a lot more about the Aramaic language, and so they were able to refine Biblical translation to more accurately reflect the original texts.

 

[Penn]

Exactly, and the discovery of those scrolls probably taught scholars a lot more about the Aramaic language, and so they were able to refine Biblical translation to more accurately reflect the original texts.

Check this out, it's from an unknown author:

"I read,
in a book
Where a man called
Christ
Went about doing good.
It is very disconcerting
To me
That I am so easily
Satisfied
With just
Going about."

 

[UrbanPancake]

No, it doesn't - but ignorance of it is rampant.

If you don't understand Biblical concepts, you shouldn't dabble here. Any student of the New Testament knows that the Jewish dietary laws along with the rest of the Law is not binding on Christianity.

This is an OLD list (I've seen variations for at least 10-15 years) but its intent is to amuse. It's not serious Biblical exegesis.

excuses, excuses......

God needs to make up his mind and write what he really means....

 

[Penn]

TurbanFloss, I have you on "Ignore", but that doesn't mean I can't tell when you tried to hit me with some gray/blue karma!

Idiot! A user with no power is simply like a dog with no private glands, who is horny and humps away at his master's leg, oblivious to the fact that he's not getting anything done!

How many times must you be told this? You are not only insipid, you are useless and pathetic - just like that dog I spoke of.

 

[vraiblonde]

excuses, excuses......

The sort answer, in case no one pointed this out previously, is that the Old Testament folks weren't doing it right so God sent Jesus down to straighten them out. Hence the New Testament and the birth of Christianity. Christians follow the NT, not the OT, so anything written in the OT doesn't pertain to them as far as rules go.

That's why this particular spam piece is irrelevant and only used by liberal nutjobs to try and play "gotcha" about something they know nothing about.

 

[Penn]

The sort answer, in case no one pointed this out previously, is that the Old Testament folks weren't doing it right so God sent Jesus down to straighten them out. Hence the New Testament and the birth of Christianity. Christians follow the NT, not the OT, so anything written in the OT doesn't pertain to them as far as rules go.

That's why this particular spam piece is irrelevant and only used by liberal nutjobs to try and play "gotcha" about something they know nothing about.

The most amazing part of the Old Testament is all the prophesy that was foretold, and how much of it came to pass in the New Testament.

One of the really big eyeopeners is Isaiah 53.

Like I said earlier, Isaiah was probably written 500 to 600 hundred years before the birth of Christ, and yet this chapter talks about Jesus' Ministry, starting in about 30 or 32 AD.

Coincidence?

The Prophet Daniel foretells many events that are told later on in Revelations.

Uncanny how some people can say the Bible is contrived.