Bike noise

Your brain uses a huge amount of calories, probably more so when you are riding and processing information rapidly (hopefully) . When you add excess noise into the equation, sound, which is also processed by the brain, even if meaningless, just draws more on your energy reserve.
 

Roughidle

New Member
desertrat said:
Your brain uses a huge amount of calories, probably more so when you are riding and processing information rapidly (hopefully) . When you add excess noise into the equation, sound, which is also processed by the brain, even if meaningless, just draws more on your energy reserve.

I read the AMA article. When any claim is preceded by the words "may be" it tells me that there isn't any definative evidence. Not saying I'm not open to the idea that it "may" but then so would chewing gum also draw upon your energy reserves as would breathing, heart pumping...blah blah blah.
The motorcycle noise issue is strictly $$ driven. Excessive noise is, has, and always will be a relative term. Be it exhaust, music or someones mother in law.
 
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Toreadoralpha

Guest
aps45819 said:
Need somebody to ride a bike home Saturday?


Actually, going up this afternoon. Her bike won't be ready, adding bags and windshield that won't be here until next week. Going to put it on the trailer, I'm not about to try to ride in this frigid weather. You know I'm a fair weather rider! Want to come up with us?
 
Roughidle said:
I read the AMA article. When any claim is preceded by the words "may be" it tells me that there isn't any definative evidence. Not saying I'm not open to the idea that it "may" but then so would chewing gum also draw upon your energy reserves as would breathing, heart pumping...blah blah blah.
The motorcycle noise issue is strictly $$ driven. Excessive noise is, has, and always will be a relative term. Be it exhaust, music or someones mother in law.
:lmao:
I don't understand what you mean by the $$ driven part.
And....
While excessive noise may be relative to you, noise is measured.
It is measured in units called decibels (dB).

Table 1. Sound intensity levels.
Decibel Level (dB) Source
140 threshold of pain: gunshot, siren at 100 feet
135 jet take off, amplified music
120 chain saw, jack hammer, snowmobile
100 tractor, farm equipment, power saw
90 OSHA limit - hearing damage if excessive exposure to noise levels above 90 dB
85 inside acoustically insulated tractor cab
75 average radio, vacuum cleaner
60 normal conversation
45 rustling leaves, soft music
30 whisper
15 threshold of hearing
0 acute threshold of hearing - weakest sound
 
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Roughidle

New Member
The decibel is a measurement of sound not noise.
Noise is unwanted sound no matter what the decibel.

My stand on the excessive noise issue being $$ driven is based on what I see and hear by the lobbyists. When I see the big companies advocating "noise restriction" out of one side of their mouth and voiding warranties for purchase of after market exhaust pipes and yet selling almost exact versions of "custom" exhaust under their own lable, I have to be skeptical of their true intent. Is it to keep noise emissions down and the reputation of motorcyclists positive or to protect their own market niche.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Toreadoralpha said:
Actually, going up this afternoon. Her bike won't be ready, adding bags and windshield that won't be here until next week. Going to put it on the trailer, I'm not about to try to ride in this frigid weather. You know I'm a fair weather rider! Want to come up with us?
Gotta pick up the boy at 6 this evening.
 
Roughidle said:
The decibel is a measurement of sound not noise.
Noise is unwanted sound no matter what the decibel.

My stand on the excessive noise issue being $$ driven is based on what I see and hear by the lobbyists. When I see the big companies advocating "noise restriction" out of one side of their mouth and voiding warranties for purchase of after market exhaust pipes and yet selling almost exact versions of "custom" exhaust under their own lable, I have to be skeptical of their true intent. Is it to keep noise emissions down and the reputation of motorcyclists positive or to protect their own market niche.
Ok noise is relative then because although I think rap music is noise it is good sound, still can't call it music, to others. So noise is sound we don't like, therefore any level of noise is undesireable and an exessive amount is unacceptable.
Decibel is the measurement of the amplitude of sound waves. Doesn't descriminate, that is up to us.
 

Roughidle

New Member
desertrat said:
Ok noise is relative then because although I think rap music is noise it is good sound, still can't call it music, to others. So noise is sound we don't like, therefore any level of noise is undesireable and an exessive amount is unacceptable.
Decibel is the measurement of the amplitude of sound waves. Doesn't descriminate, that is up to us.

Exactly my point. Now we just have to find out who "us" is. :lmao:
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Roughidle said:
The decibel is a measurement of sound not noise.
Noise is unwanted sound no matter what the decibel.

My stand on the excessive noise issue being $$ driven is based on what I see and hear by the lobbyists. When I see the big companies advocating "noise restriction" out of one side of their mouth and voiding warranties for purchase of after market exhaust pipes and yet selling almost exact versions of "custom" exhaust under their own lable, I have to be skeptical of their true intent. Is it to keep noise emissions down and the reputation of motorcyclists positive or to protect their own market niche.
I only know of 2 bike mfrs that market an "off road" exhaust, Harley and Triumph. While ther's not a lot of after market options for a new Triumph exhaust, I'd have to agree that Harley is trying to protect their sales by offering a illegal exhaust system.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
And as mentioned in the other thread.. research numbers.. If you ride a loud bike, one with modified exhaust, your are 37% , more likekly to crash. That in itself is evidence that quiet bikes are safer.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
aps45819 said:
I only know of 2 bike mfrs that market an "off road" exhaust, Harley and Triumph. While ther's not a lot of after market options for a new Triumph exhaust, I'd have to agree that Harley is trying to protect their sales by offering a illegal exhaust system.
I thought harley corporate has told their dealers no more selling "off road only" accesories..
 

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
I love revving my bike up and making it make noise. I have a clutch issue, so I have no choice but to rev it up when it is stopped.
 

Pete

Repete
itsbob said:
And as mentioned in the other thread.. research numbers.. If you ride a loud bike, one with modified exhaust, your are 37% , more likekly to crash. That in itself is evidence that quiet bikes are safer.
:rolleyes:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Pete said:
Stats are stats.. you can't change the numbers..

Maybe I'll go back and read the article just to make sure my number is right, and see who did the research to determine the number. Does anyone offer any research to the contrary?? Hard accident numbers, loud bikes are in LESS accidents??
 

Pete

Repete
itsbob said:
Stats are stats.. you can't change the numbers..

Maybe I'll go back and read the article just to make sure my number is right, and see who did the research to determine the number. Does anyone offer any research to the contrary?? Hard accident numbers, loud bikes are in LESS accidents??
1. Lying through statistics makes tons of people a living and promotes an ass load of agendas.

2. Your statement is totally incorrect. Bikes with modified exhausts "may" be involved in 34% more accidents but that does not mean YOU have a 34% higher chance of an accident. I ride my bike safely and defensively. I use the same traits whether I am riding a stock exhaust bike or a modified one therefore MY chance of an accident is EXACTLY the same regardless.
 
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