Bill Keller, liveprayerdotcom

mAlice

professional daydreamer
16. A Pit Stop for Prayers
St. Petersburg Times, Feb. 15, 2000
http://www.sptimes.com/News/021500/Floridian/_Highway_to_Heaven.shtml
Check out what's going on in a back room at Ace Motors. It's not church. Or
is it? Having financial problems? Health problems? Marital problems? No need
to get all gussied up to go to church. Just log on to Liveprayer.com, 24
hours a day, every day, and get in touch with God, or at least someone who
will pray for you.

If, as they say, a Web site can be started by anyone, anywhere,
Liveprayer.com fits the bill.

Anywhere is a tiny room in the back of Ace Motors, a used car lot at 6660
46th Ave. N in St. Petersburg, a shabby white building surrounded by
older-model cars. Anyone is Bill Keller, the brains behind the Web site, who
says he found God and decided to devote his life to ministry when he was
doing federal prison time for fraud.

His site, billed as the "World's Prayer Meeting," gets hits from all over the
world, 10,000 a day by Keller's count. And that's just the beginning. If the
donations roll in, he foresees an Internet studio rising amid the rusty Ford
Thunderbirds and Dodge Darts.
(...)

"She will be totally set free of Epstein-Barr Syndrome," Garnet Blakley says
in answer to an e-mail from South Carolina. "Something is happening in this
girl's life, I rebuke her from her past."

A few minutes later, Blakley prays for a couple in Ohio who want a lower
interest rate for a home loan. Blakley, pastor of Victory Fellowship Church
in Clearwater, is the preacher of the day on Liveprayer.com.
(...)

Some theologians caution about clicking onto these sites, especially ones not
affiliated with a church. They say it can be risky for vulnerable people to
pour their hearts out to strangers.
(...)

"I call these Web sites "prayer light,' " Foerst says. "It is a very reduced
understanding of prayer. You log on and you ask for something. That is not
necessarily what prayer is about. My experience is that true religion comes
in community and commitment."
(...)

Keller, formerly of Schaumburg, Ill., moved to Clearwater in 1994, two years
after his release from prison in Chicago, where he served nearly three years
for securities and mail fraud.

He ran Global Investment, which sold unregistered securities in the form of
investment contracts, according to court records. He scammed in excess of
$175,000 and defrauded vendors of office supplies worth hundreds of thousands
more, according to the records, moving the money through banks on the Grand
Cayman Islands.

After about a year behind bars, Keller says, he found God. He got an
undergraduate degree in Biblical Studies from Liberty University while still
in prison and went into evangelism when he got out.
(...)

When Keller went to register the site name and found out that
http://www.liveprayer.com was still available, he took it as a sign from God.

His company is registered as a non-profit religious organization. Keller says
he hopes to make enough money through his donations to cover expenses and pay
himself a modest amount.


He responds to e-mails himself.

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/news/an200216.html#16
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mAlice

professional daydreamer
Frequent commentator 'Pecheur' is chasing an unreported aspect of this election. Religious zealots on the Left.

It would seem, contrary to the plethora of NPR stories I heard this afternoon, that the Left has its own wing of Christian punditry, so to speak. Bill Keller, not to be confused with the NYT reporter of the same name, made bold statements of his own. Pecheur, a thoughtful student of Christian theology, is a conservative-leaning man. He inhabits a world where he finds himself in the midst of 'left-leaning' students and intellectuals. Pecheur should be, and I bet he is, comforted that a majority of Americans have borne out his own deep-seated sentiment.

He has a post concerning Bill Keller, vocal, activist leader of Bill Keller Ministries, which owns LivePrayer. Pastor Keller stated that he strongly believed Kerry would be our next President. Bill Keller "heard from God that Kerry will win." Pecheur emailed him: "[T]hat is that you feel strongly that our next president will be Kerry, what will happen if you are wrong?" . . .

Pastor Keller to Pecheur (prior to the big day): "Bush will lose for failing to do what God allowed him to be elected to do..if by some chance he win..no excuses form me..I am someone that is not to be heard.."

Well, as we now know, Pastor Keller was WRONG. You must read all said in Pecheur's post.

Well? Has Bill Keller been heard from again? What do you think? Will Pastor Keller follow his self-stated biblical mandate? Brother Bill's own testimony is interesting. Insider trading, inter alia. United Methodist background...(I identify) today, he is 'non-denominational'.

Just goes to show: The Left belittles we grounded, center-right folk for our traditional theology, while, in the silence of the left-wing airwaves, liberal religiosity is alive and well. My bet is that the dynamic, enigmatic Rev Keller will keep talking, despite his biblically-based contrary assurance to Pecheur, which begs the question: is something else motivating this preacher?

http://hunterbyrd.blogspot.com/2004_11_01_hunterbyrd_archive.html
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Elaine,
It certainly is amazing how many wondrous things have come from humble beginnings and how many people of humble circumstances have been used by God for glorious things..

You came from the union of two cells - humble beginning.

All of Christianity started with the birth of a baby to a virgin in a stable over 2000 years ago. A very humble beginning.

The disciples were humble fishermen, tax collector, and the like. Jesus worked as a carpenter before starting His ministry. Paul was a tent maker. From 11, 12 with Paul, Christianity has grown to hundreds of millions. Humble beginnings.

Jacob, a patriarch of the Israelites, was a shepherd boy loved by his father and hated by his brothers.

Moses was a murderer before he lead the Israelites.

Bill Keller makes no secret of his self-centered past, his time in jail, or where he operates LivePrayer.com . http://www.liveprayer.com/bdy_testimony.html He was very open that he thought Kerry would win because of Bush turning his back on some issues. He did not do this as a word of prophesy. Bill Keller does not claim to be a prophet. He was no more wrong or accountable for being wrong that the 48% of voters that also thought Kerry would win. No harm, no foul. LivePrayer.com operates in [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1] St. Petersburg, Florida in not one of the best areas as he has described it. Need to be near the people that are hurting and need the most.
from the LivePrayer site:
[/size][/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Liveprayer.Com has over 20,000 visitors daily to the website, 20% of those are coming from outside the United States. There are currently over 2,000,000 people who have subscribed to receive the Daily Devotional each day in their email account. Again, about 20% of those subscribers are from outside the United States. We receive daily over 40,000 email prayer requests that a ministry team emails personalized responses to.
And LivePrayer.com does not charge a dime to anyone. They operate solely on donations. Bill has a staff to answer prayer requests and emails but also answers emails personally. Bill Keller is on live TV every MONDAY - FRIDAY from 1 am to 2 am (Eastern) on WTOG-TV44, the UPN affiliate in Tampa, FL. and will soon be on several other stations in Florida major media markets.

Humble beginnings. God uses humble beginnings.
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ceo_pte

New Member
I believe in prayer, but I also believe in a loving God that will not do anything that would result in eternal damnation. Like I have heard people say, "If God wanted me to be wealthy he would let me win the lottery." There is one passage in the Bible where it says that "God wishes for us to be in good health and prosper, even as our soul prospers." I think God is interested in the prosperring of our soul, not our pocket books. I believe in success and prosperity, but not at the price of eternal suffering. I just think it's interesting what some people pray for. I'm not saying God won't answer their prayers(the Ohio couple), I am sure it depends on their situation, but i find these prayers interesting.


"A few minutes later, Blakley prays for a couple in Ohio who want a lower
interest rate for a home loan. Blakley, pastor of Victory Fellowship Church
in Clearwater, is the preacher of the day on Liveprayer.com."
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
ceo_pte said:
I believe in prayer, but I also believe in a loving God that will not do anything that would result in eternal damnation. Like I have heard people say, "If God wanted me to be wealthy he would let me win the lottery." There is one passage in the Bible where it says that "God wishes for us to be in good health and prosper, even as our soul prospers." I think God is interested in the prosperring of our soul, not our pocket books. I believe in success and prosperity, but not at the price of eternal suffering. I just think it's interesting what some people pray for. I'm not saying God won't answer their prayers(the Ohio couple), I am sure it depends on their situation, but i find these prayers interesting.


"A few minutes later, Blakley prays for a couple in Ohio who want a lower
interest rate for a home loan. Blakley, pastor of Victory Fellowship Church
in Clearwater, is the preacher of the day on Liveprayer.com."
Some always pray for the wrong thing. God knows what is good and bad for you. As a loving Father, He will not give you what is bad for you; it would not be a blessing. That is not to say people can't use their free will to go after what the want, but then they are putting that in front of God.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
elaine said:
2A, I just posted a few articles. People will come to their own conclusions.
I understand. I just think that God uses the least likely people to do His greatest works. I can't wait to see what you do for Him when He finally really gets your attention. Love you. I don't always like what you post and sometimes I think you are a PITA (I'm sure you feel the same way. :lmao:), but I love you.:huggy:
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
2ndAmendment said:
I understand. I just think that God uses the least likely people to do His greatest works. I can't wait to see what you do for Him when He finally really gets your attention. Love you. I don't always like what you post and sometimes I think you are a PITA (I'm sure you feel the same way. :lmao:), but I love you.:huggy:

I'm glad you have no hard feelings. I hope you can hang on to that, because I won't let up.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
ceo_pte said:
I just think it's interesting what some people pray for. I'm not saying God won't answer their prayers(the Ohio couple), I am sure it depends on their situation, but i find these prayers interesting.


"A few minutes later, Blakley prays for a couple in Ohio who want a lower
interest rate for a home loan. Blakley, pastor of Victory Fellowship Church
in Clearwater, is the preacher of the day on Liveprayer.com."
I believe too many people, like that Ohio couple, think of God as a magic genie. I'm no theologian, but I think that's not even close to what the Christian God is about. I don't believe praying will convince God to clean up your messes or fix all your problems, let alone giving you something for nothing. Personally, I prefer it when people pray for guidance to deal with crises, instead of praying for a magic fix for those crises.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Tonio said:
I believe too many people, like that Ohio couple, think of God as a magic genie. I'm no theologian, but I think that's not even close to what the Christian God is about. I don't believe praying will convince God to clean up your messes or fix all your problems, let alone giving you something for nothing. Personally, I prefer it when people pray for guidance to deal with crises, instead of praying for a magic fix for those crises.
Bill Keller and I have exchanged emails and he and I agree. God is not a magic genie. Sin has consequences. God forgives sin; He may make you go through the consequences. Very seldom have I seen in the Bible or in life, my own included, where God issues a "Get Our of Jail Free" or "Go Directly to Go" card.
 
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