Black Monolith Kills Hillary's Nomination Chances

[Lee]

It is indeed ironic that Sen. Hillary Clinton, the wife of the "first black president" Bill Clinton should find her chances for seizing the Democrat presidential nomination spoiled by a monolithic black vote for her African-American opponent Sen. Barack Obama.

But that is exactly what has happened.

Link to article and video with breakdown of black vote: Exposed Story : Black Monolith Kills Hillary's Nomination Chances

 

[ImnoMensa]

It is indeed ironic that Sen. Hillary Clinton, the wife of the "first black president" Bill Clinton should find her chances for seizing the Democrat presidential nomination spoiled by a monolithic black vote for her African-American opponent Sen. Barack Obama.

But that is exactly what has happened.

Link to article and video with breakdown of black vote: Exposed Story : Black Monolith Kills Hillary's Nomination Chances

The old saying blood is thicker than water is a good one.

These people who are voting for Obama are turning out in great numbers to vote for a man because he is part-black and promises more entitlements.

About the only thing he has in common with many blacks is that his father abandoned him as a child and his mother dumped him off for his Grandmother to raise. Obama has had access to things the average black man can only pray for, but seldom receives.


He has a fine education he is living in a million dollar mansion, has a good looking upper middle class wife, has all the perks of United States Senator, two nice looking kids who go to private school,and supports every crazy liberal idea that ever came down the pike.

Bill might have called himself the First black President, but the blood wasnt there, Bill wasnt really black just a cracker who used black people for political gain.

 

[Nanny Pam]

The old saying blood is thicker than water is a good one.

These people who are voting for Obama are turning out in great numbers to vote for a man because he is part-black and promises more entitlements.

About the only thing he has in common with many blacks is that his father abandoned him as a child and his mother dumped him off for his Grandmother to raise. Obama has had access to things the average black man can only pray for, but seldom receives.


He has a fine education he is living in a million dollar mansion, has a good looking upper middle class wife, has all the perks of United States Senator, two nice looking kids who go to private school,and supports every crazy liberal idea that ever came down the pike.

Bill might have called himself the First black President, but the blood wasnt there, Bill wasnt really black just a cracker who used black people for political gain.

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I think I love you!

 

[Bruzilla]

I remember posting after the Iowa caucuses that Obama was going to win the primary, and I think the reasons I cited then are the same ones that won the nomination for him... and it isn't the black vote. That's the most visible and handy target, but the truth is that black populations don't exceed 30% in any state, and the top black voter turnouts were only about 35%, so even on his best days, the black vote for Obama only amounted to about 10% of the voting populace as a whole. There were a whole lot of non-black voters making up the rest of the margins.

The biggest reason that Obama has done so well is that he has an inclusive view of things. Everything he says is phrased in inclusive terms... we're, ours, us, we, etc. When you listen to Obama speak, he says that "we" can fix problems, that "we're" going to change things, etc. And people respond to that message by injecting themselves into the process. They feel like they are a member of a team, and even if Obama can't do something on his own, at least he can work with someone who can. Hillary is always exclusive. With her it's always "I will bring about change" or "I will fix things". That forces the listener to think can she do it? And if the listener feels she can't, she loses their support.

The second biggest reason Obama won is that he has consistently run a campaign that is forward-focused. He always acknowledged the problems, then said that working together we can fix them. He didn't waste a lot of his time blamestorming the issues... he ackowledged them and committed to working to get them fixed. Hillary was always running against George Bush. Where Obama would say "we know the economy is in trouble, but working together with Republicans and Independents, we can get it back to where it needs to be", Hillary would be saying "George Bush ruined our economy. Our economy is a shambles because of George Bush. We don't need another four years of Bush's economic policies!" Now, which argument sounds better? The guy who's talking about fixing the problems, or the gal who's campaigning against a guy who isn't even running?

 

[Larry Gude]

It is...

I . and it isn't the black vote. That's the most visible and handy target, but the truth is that black populations don't exceed 30% in any state,

...two different things; him winning the nomination and winning the general.

While there may be no more than 30% blacks in any state, that makes them upwards of 60% of the total in the Democratic primaries. When a candidate is getting over 90% of a block of voters, be it Catholic, black, unions, business owners or pickled pepper packers and that group is a large group and that group is strongly identified with one party, then it can be said, correctly, that that is a deciding factor.

 

[Bruzilla]

...two different things; him winning the nomination and winning the general.

While there may be no more than 30% blacks in any state, that makes them upwards of 60% of the total in the Democratic primaries. When a candidate is getting over 90% of a block of voters, be it Catholic, black, unions, business owners or pickled pepper packers and that group is a large group and that group is strongly identified with one party, then it can be said, correctly, that that is a deciding factor.

Well, lets look at NC. NC is 21.7% black, and 24% are not old enough to vote. So the voting age blacks make up about 15% of the population of voters. Assuming a fairly balanced spread of voter races, that means that even if 90% of those who actually voted went for Obama, that still only means about 15% of the votes he got, unless whites largely stayed home and according to Hillary's camp she was raking them in.

Also, looking at other races, black voter turnout has been going 70-90% for Obama, but turnout has only been about 30-40 percent. College student voter turnout has been running at 60-70%... that's where Obama is making his money.

 

[Larry Gude]

So...

Well, lets look at NC. NC is 21.7% black, and 24% are not old enough to vote. So the voting age blacks make up about 15% of the population of voters. Assuming a fairly balanced spread of voter races, that means that even if 90% of those who actually voted went for Obama, that still only means about 15% of the votes he got, unless whites largely stayed home and according to Hillary's camp she was raking them in.

Also, looking at other races, black voter turnout has been going 70-90% for Obama, but turnout has only been about 30-40 percent. College student voter turnout has been running at 60-70%... that's where Obama is making his money.

...two times in a row you look at total voters instead of Democratic voters. If you're math is correct, then the black folks make up about 30% of eligible voters in a Democratic primary considering how heavily black folks go Dem.
Now, as NC is a GOP state, that means there is not a 50/50 split of total voters, so, blacks make up an even larger % of the Dem vote.

So, we're looking at something like 40% or more of the total Dem vote of which he got in excess of 90% meaning he got 36% of the vote based on one group. Of the remaining 60% he got about 25% of them.

That means Hillary got about 75% of the non black vote.
That means Barrack got about 25% of the non black vote.


Call it what you will.

 

[Toxick]

I wonder if Hillary is going to pull the sex card.




She's being held down because she's a strong woman that Male America simply can't deal with.

That's what I'd do.


I'd paint Obama as the biggest sexist in the since the Neanderthals disappeared.

 

[Larry Gude]

Maybe...

I wonder if Hillary is going to pull the sex card.




She's being held down because she's a strong woman that Male America simply can't deal with.

That's what I'd do.


I'd paint Obama as the biggest sexist in the since the Neanderthals disappeared.

...she'll accuse Obama of not really loving the people like her husband did?

 

[Bruzilla]

...two times in a row you look at total voters instead of Democratic voters. If you're math is correct, then the black folks make up about 30% of eligible voters in a Democratic primary considering how heavily black folks go Dem.
Now, as NC is a GOP state, that means there is not a 50/50 split of total voters, so, blacks make up an even larger % of the Dem vote.

So, we're looking at something like 40% or more of the total Dem vote of which he got in excess of 90% meaning he got 36% of the vote based on one group. Of the remaining 60% he got about 25% of them.

That means Hillary got about 75% of the non black vote.
That means Barrack got about 25% of the non black vote.


Call it what you will.

The only way that your assumption would be correct would be if just about every registered black voter turned out and there was a record low white voter turnout. That just wasn't the case.

 

[Larry Gude]

It's...

The only way that your assumption would be correct would be if just about every registered black voter turned out and there was a record low white voter turnout. That just wasn't the case.

...not an assumption.

Carolina; 22% black. A quarter can't vote. He got 90% or better. Most are Dems. Over 50% of eligibel NC'ers are GOP'ers. It's Red State. Thus, it is what it is.

It's just math.