Bloomberg Buying Votes - Breaking Federal Law

GURPS

INGSOC
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Mike Bloomberg Is Likely Breaking Federal Law by Paying off Felon Debts for Democrat Votes

As reported earlier former New York City Mayor and billionaire Mike Bloomberg raised $16 million to pay off the fines for 32,000 black and Hispanic Florida voters so they can vote for Joe Biden in the 2020 election.

Basketball icon Lebron James is also looking to pay convicted felons’ fines so they can vote for Joe Biden.

But tonight legal analyst J. Christian Adams argued that Michael Bloomberg is breaking federal and likely Florida state law by buying votes from felons.
 

Hijinx

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WTF ????

This is crazy. But of course nothing will be done about it.

These people have too much money. Buying votes from criminals---------------just damn.
 
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GURPS

INGSOC
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BREAKING: Florida AG Refers Bloomberg To FBI For Criminal Investigation After He Pledged To Pay Felons’ Fines So They Can Vote In Apparent Attempt To Boost Biden



Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody reportedly sent a letter to the FBI and Florida Department of Law Enforcement requesting a criminal investigation into a recent report that failed Democrat presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg, a billionaire, has raised more than $16 million to help convicted felons pay off their debts in an attempt to boost Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden in the state.

“The letter said that Moody’s office had reviewed Bloomberg’s pledge and referred the matter to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the FBI for a criminal investigation,” CBS 12 reported. “Moody’s letter references Florida’s statute against paying for votes, referencing a Florida Department of State finding that said ‘even an otherwise innocuous offering of an incentive simply to vote can run afoul’ of state election law.”
 

pontificator

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And BTW, if these felons have served their time, they should be free to vote without having to pay a poll tax.

This shouldn't be a question .. but of course you highly biased fools presume they are Democrat voters and heaven forbid someone vote differently than you!

Psychopaths.
 

PJay

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And BTW, if these felons have served their time, they should be free to vote without having to pay a poll tax.

This shouldn't be a question .. but of course you highly biased fools presume they are Democrat voters and heaven forbid someone vote differently than you!

Psychopaths.

You sure have a thing for felons. Why is that?

There were a lot a felons on the streets destroying stuff...who is turning them loose? Democrats. Who do you think they are going to vote for. Democrats. And stop being so full of yourself!
 

gunsmoke

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Mike Bloomberg Is Likely Breaking Federal Law by Paying off Felon Debts for Democrat Votes

As reported earlier former New York City Mayor and billionaire Mike Bloomberg raised $16 million to pay off the fines for 32,000 black and Hispanic Florida voters so they can vote for Joe Biden in the 2020 election.

Basketball icon Lebron James is also looking to pay convicted felons’ fines so they can vote for Joe Biden.

But tonight legal analyst J. Christian Adams argued that Michael Bloomberg is breaking federal and likely Florida state law by buying votes from felons.

Anyone care to point out where in this "article" it offers ANY evidence that Bloomberg has entered into ANY agreement with ANYONE about who these folks are to vote for in return for having their fines paid?

Come on bot, point it out.

BTW....while you all are looking so hard to find some text that actually shows he did anything, why don't you go back and read the White Houses' abridged version of Trumps calls with Ukraine. I wonder if any of you cult members will actually understand the difference between the actual quid pro quo committed by the President and this fake BS pushed by the bot?
 

Ken King

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And BTW, if these felons have served their time, they should be free to vote without having to pay a poll tax.

This shouldn't be a question .. but of course you highly biased fools presume they are Democrat voters and heaven forbid someone vote differently than you!

Psychopaths.
Guess you haven't been keeping up with this case at the 11th CA. They reversed the previous lower court injunction against the financial portion of re-enfranchising the felons determining the requirement to pay costs, fines, restitution et al was not a poll tax and was constitutional. https://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/files/202012003.enb.pdf
 

pontificator

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Anyone care to point out where in this "article" it offers ANY evidence that Bloomberg has entered into ANY agreement with ANYONE about who these folks are to vote for in return for having their fines paid?

Come on bot, point it out.

BTW....while you all are looking so hard to find some text that actually shows he did anything, why don't you go back and read the White Houses' abridged version of Trumps calls with Ukraine. I wonder if any of you cult members will actually understand the difference between the actual quid pro quo committed by the President and this fake BS pushed by the bot?

Do you think any of these dummies have read any of the finer points of this? Do you think they can read?

They can copy and paste what their handlers give them. That's about all we know.
 

pontificator

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Guess you haven't been keeping up with this case at the 11th CA. They reversed the previous lower court injunction against the financial portion of re-enfranchising the felons determining the requirement to pay costs, fines, restitution et al was not a poll tax and was constitutional. https://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/files/202012003.enb.pdf

I am aware, thanks for the reference just the same. Perhaps others might benefit.

The point is directed toward Matt Gaetz and his merry band of morons.

The argument is that this wasn't a poll tax because it isn't a payment that's required to (re)gain the right to vote. Rather, it's a payment to end the prison sentence. That was the conservative argument notwithstanding the court finding.

Now, you have this Gaetz character arguing counter to that by stating that the only reason to pay the government is for a felon to get their right to vote back In other words, a poll tax. You can follow the links the dummy OP posted to see Gaetz saying that precisely.

So, which is it? It's either a poll tax or it is satisfying a prison sentence.

Aside from poll tax question, it's not a violation of as Gaetz would suggest.
 

Hijinx

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These are the people who started the hoax aboit Russia interfering with our election and here they are paying fines for felons so they can interfere in our elections.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
I am aware, thanks for the reference just the same. Perhaps others might benefit.

The point is directed toward Matt Gaetz and his merry band of morons.

The argument is that this wasn't a poll tax because it isn't a payment that's required to (re)gain the right to vote. Rather, it's a payment to end the prison sentence. That was the conservative argument notwithstanding the court finding.

Now, you have this Gaetz character arguing counter to that by stating that the only reason to pay the government is for a felon to get their right to vote back In other words, a poll tax. You can follow the links the dummy OP posted to see Gaetz saying that precisely.

So, which is it? It's either a poll tax or it is satisfying a prison sentence.

Aside from poll tax question, it's not a violation of as Gaetz would suggest.
Well, it obviously isn't a poll tax as the amendment, when codified by the legislature, defined the financial obligations as being part of the judgement rendered upon the felons that must also be satisfied to qualify for being re-enfranchised to vote.

As to if it is a violation of 104.061, I would say that a violation is possible, under paragraph (2)
104.061 (2) said:
No person shall directly or indirectly give or promise anything of value to another intending thereby to buy that person’s or another’s vote or to corruptly influence that person or another in casting his or her vote.
Note that the bolded portion of this section makes no distinction on voting for a certain candidate or for someone they are told to vote for but simply influencing one to cast a vote. In other words, the person having that debt would not have legally voted at all without the debt being paid.
 

pontificator

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Well, it obviously isn't a poll tax as the amendment, when codified by the legislature, defined the financial obligations as being part of the judgement rendered upon the felons that must also be satisfied to qualify for being re-enfranchised to vote.

As to if it is a violation of 104.061, I would say that a violation is possible, under paragraph (2) Note that the bolded portion of this section makes no distinction on voting for a certain candidate or for someone they are told to vote for but simply influencing one to cast a vote. In other words, the person having that debt would not have legally voted at all without the debt being paid.

I will be very interested to hear the legal argument as to how giving someone the ability to vote by satisfying this debt is influencing them to vote.

They would still be free not to vote if they so choose. They are not being compelled to vote.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Anyone care to point out where in this "article" it offers ANY evidence that Bloomberg has entered into ANY agreement with ANYONE about who these folks are to vote for in return for having their fines paid?


ah yes, more pedantic word games, you claim to be so smart and educated, the one TRUE Republican, so worldly yet you are so hopeless ignorant or just obtuse to argue

Do you really think Bloomberg is altruistic in his efforts to pay off the debts of 3,100 Felons so they can vote for Trump, do you really think these felons are not going to look at Bloomberg the Democrat and not Vote Democrat - if they bother to vote at all

Further more you disingenuous c u n t you know damn well if Trump made such a move, CREW and others would be filing ethics complaints with the FEC and House Democrats would be drawing up the next Articles of Impeachment claiming Trump was trying to BUY The Election



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...pays-20m-debt-31-000-felons-Florida-vote.html

'We know to win Florida we will need to persuade, motivate and add new votes to the Biden column. This means we need to explore all avenues for finding the needed votes when so many votes are already determined,' Bloomberg said in a written statement.

'The right to vote is fundamental to our democracy and no American should be denied that right. Working together with the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition, we are determined to end disenfranchisement and the discrimination that has always driven it,' the statement added.

A Bloomberg adviser told the Washington Post: 'Mike wanted to get this done for two reasons. One, because it’s the right thing to do for the democracy. And two, because it immediately activates tens of thousands of voters who are predisposed to vote for Joe Biden.'




Come on bot, point it out.

:crazy:


BTW....while you all are looking so hard to find some text that actually shows he did anything, why don't you go back and read the White Houses' abridged version of Trumps calls with Ukraine. I wonder if any of you cult members will actually understand the difference between the actual quid pro quo committed by the President and this fake BS pushed by the bot?

Liar there was no Ukraine Quid Pro Quo ... that was all Vindman Fantasy Conjecture

Nothing Fake about it ....... Bloomberg said


A Bloomberg adviser told the Washington Post: ... And two, because it immediately activates tens of thousands of voters who are predisposed to vote for Joe Biden.'
 
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