BREAKING NEWS: al Qaeda Leader in Iraq reportedly Dead
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forestal
I'm the Boss of Me
Not what I said. What I'm saying is that if we just try to kill them, and if that's our only strategy for fighting terrorism, we'll reach the same stalemate that the Israelis have. That's unacceptable.
State Department says we're losing the war on Terror BTW:
WASHINGTON -- A new State Department report says there were 25 percent more terrorist attacks worldwide last year and that extremists killed 40 percent more people than the previous year.
State Department says we're losing the war on Terror BTW:
WASHINGTON -- A new State Department report says there were 25 percent more terrorist attacks worldwide last year and that extremists killed 40 percent more people than the previous year.
PsyOps said:Yeah, we shouldn't even bother going after them. It's useless. Let's just let them kill us.
Pushrod
Patriot
forestal said:
Hey F'n-Idiot, it didn't say we were losing any war on terror! The article said there were more terrorist attacks worldwide, so f'n what? Were any of them on our home soil or on our people and Embassies abroad? I don't think so!
Stop twisting this crap you dig up around to fit your agenda of denigrating our Republic!!
Again, my avatar is a message to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PsyOps
Pixelated
What's unacceptable is the fact that any good news in this war is bad news in your eyes. Leaving only one thing for you... EVERYTHING is bad news.forestal said:
I wont elaborate on your selective take on your provided article except to say it doesn't matter how things are worded, you will always here "The US lost the war."
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Do you think...
...these people are sub human? Do you think they value life, at all? Do you think they are fighting to achieve something besides death? If you think they actually are human beings and not a mindless, endless swarms of roaches, doesn't it follow that they are fighting for a reason? If that follows, then that means they think they can win. If they think they can win that implies a clear understanding that they can lose. The two go hand in hand to people but not to roaches. Roaches just keep doing what they do with zero concept of life or death or winning or losing.
If they can win, it's our job as their enemy to figure out what winning means to them and, if what they define as victory is unacceptable to us, global Sharia, then we need to beat them.
Beating them is also losing from their view point. So, we need to define what losing is. Losing is an acceptance that their goals are no longer worth the cost. If this gomer was killed by local Sunnis that's a fairly clear signal that one sides goals, winning, are not in alignment with the others. Roaches don't kill each other.
If you actually are pro American, which I've never asked you, it stands to reason you don't want to lose to someone who wants you to live under their religion. If that is so, it would be of great interest to me what you think we should do with Al queda.
Care to address that?
forestal said:
...these people are sub human? Do you think they value life, at all? Do you think they are fighting to achieve something besides death? If you think they actually are human beings and not a mindless, endless swarms of roaches, doesn't it follow that they are fighting for a reason? If that follows, then that means they think they can win. If they think they can win that implies a clear understanding that they can lose. The two go hand in hand to people but not to roaches. Roaches just keep doing what they do with zero concept of life or death or winning or losing.
If they can win, it's our job as their enemy to figure out what winning means to them and, if what they define as victory is unacceptable to us, global Sharia, then we need to beat them.
Beating them is also losing from their view point. So, we need to define what losing is. Losing is an acceptance that their goals are no longer worth the cost. If this gomer was killed by local Sunnis that's a fairly clear signal that one sides goals, winning, are not in alignment with the others. Roaches don't kill each other.
If you actually are pro American, which I've never asked you, it stands to reason you don't want to lose to someone who wants you to live under their religion. If that is so, it would be of great interest to me what you think we should do with Al queda.
Care to address that?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Hey...
...life is always about what to do, for all of us, and, sometimes, the answer is; nothing. In this case, perfectly legitimate preemptive invasion was waged by us in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
Hindsight is 20/20 and the case can be made that this might have been a good one to sit it; but that's not what we did. The way the left is going about de-legitimizing this may be far reaching and a rather negative thing the next time someone wants to use force to help people.
So, what to do? All the left says is 'get out, Bush lied...ya da ya da...'
That leaves the question of what to do the next time someone kills Americans in the name of their religion.
ylexot said:
...life is always about what to do, for all of us, and, sometimes, the answer is; nothing. In this case, perfectly legitimate preemptive invasion was waged by us in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
Hindsight is 20/20 and the case can be made that this might have been a good one to sit it; but that's not what we did. The way the left is going about de-legitimizing this may be far reaching and a rather negative thing the next time someone wants to use force to help people.
So, what to do? All the left says is 'get out, Bush lied...ya da ya da...'
That leaves the question of what to do the next time someone kills Americans in the name of their religion.
PsyOps
Pixelated
On an individual basis I think of this enemy likened to a rabid dog. Regardless of whether you keep going after them or not they will keep coming after you. They don't care if they die because they will achieve the greater reward in heaven.Larry Gude said:
On an ideological basis they desire world dominance. The smaller "freedom fighters" hold the leaders (i.e. Bin Laden) in holy esteem which gives them the individual motivation to die for the larger cause. Given that, I’m not so sure they know they can lose, nor even care. And this brings up a sub-point: How is it these suicide murderers have become convinced that dying is their way to paradise and they are anxious to get there but leaders like Bin Laden don't seem all that anxious to obtain paradise? Instead they hide in caves. hmmmmmmmmmm?
I do know this, that when they hear the song our democrats are singing they KNOW they will win. Forestal just doesn’t seem to comprehend these two factors as the greatest danger we face: 1) their knowledge that they can win because they being told they HAVE won and 2) their desire for world dominance. He only sees one thing: Bush is evil and Bush is a liar.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Nope...
There has yet to be the rabid animal that planned it's own death or died for a purpose. I don't care if we're talking kamikaze, jihadi or a US Marine on Iwo who jumped on a grenade. Every single one of them are going to die for a greater good, as they see it.
There is none of this 'keep coming at you' business either. There is a VERY limited supply of people willing to kill themselves for the cause. Think about it; 1.3 BILLION members. A handful, barely thousands, even willing to die in battle for the cause. Why do we see videos of so many with suicide belts on propaganda videos? To emphasize strength in the reality of weakness. 19 men served as the catalyst for all this, 19.
Why not 190? Why not 1,900? 19,000? 190,000 to REALLY show the enemy?
Because there ain't that many people who believe in suicide.
PsyOps said:
There has yet to be the rabid animal that planned it's own death or died for a purpose. I don't care if we're talking kamikaze, jihadi or a US Marine on Iwo who jumped on a grenade. Every single one of them are going to die for a greater good, as they see it.
There is none of this 'keep coming at you' business either. There is a VERY limited supply of people willing to kill themselves for the cause. Think about it; 1.3 BILLION members. A handful, barely thousands, even willing to die in battle for the cause. Why do we see videos of so many with suicide belts on propaganda videos? To emphasize strength in the reality of weakness. 19 men served as the catalyst for all this, 19.
Why not 190? Why not 1,900? 19,000? 190,000 to REALLY show the enemy?
Because there ain't that many people who believe in suicide.