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dontknowwhy

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Gilligan, I can't find the link to the analysis in that other thread either, so my conclusion is this: thatguy is nothing more than a lying azzed loser with nothing to back up his false, baseless claims.

Now as far as the Government documents...that is what Arpaio is presenting...official government documents...that have been fraudulently manipulated...whatever thatguy is drinking, he needs to stop...or stop using the type of straw he's been suckin on...
 

dontknowwhy

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Whew!! Thanks for that. I was afraid it was just me and I was feeling so stupid that I almost wanted to kill myself.

I'm all better now.

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one can only hope thatguy will have the same desire come over himself when he can't find that link either...the bright side to that is nobody will come on here and make him feel better, thus, narrowly escaping the final outcome... :1bdz:
 

thatguy

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the three Docs in question. .
Sayyyy. Aren't all three of those docs purported to be official 'governement documents'?

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So you are saying the documents he is presenting are the ones that Obama already released? And here I thought you were implying that Joe had some documents that actually backed up his claim that the BC was fraudulent.

Are there any documents that actually support his claim?
 

Hessian

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Its the methodology...

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So you are saying the documents he is presenting are the ones that Obama already released? And here I thought you were implying that Joe had some documents that actually backed up his claim that the BC was fraudulent.

Are there any documents that actually support his claim?
Thatguy,...I am sorry that the press conference runs over 50 minutes--most of the key info is clarified in the first 1/2 hour. Please take the time to watch the CSI approach to the documents. It is...somewhat dry but...very carefully detailed.--3 crucial documents,...endorsed as genuine from the WH,-all are invalid due to the investigation. WATCH IT.
 

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So you are saying the documents he is presenting are the ones that Obama already released? And here I thought you were implying that Joe had some documents that actually backed up his claim that the BC was fraudulent.

Are there any documents that actually support his claim?
Thatguy,...I am sorry that the press conference runs over 50 minutes--most of the key info is clarified in the first 1/2 hour. Please take the time to watch the CSI approach to the documents. It is...somewhat dry but...very carefully detailed.--3 crucial documents,...endorsed as genuine from the WH,-all are invalid due to the investigation. WATCH IT.
I watched the first 25 mins or so, and I don't see any proof of fraud. I see a lot of conclusions based on them not able to replicate what they are seeing in electronic copies of documents, but the results are inconclusive. As far as I can see they didnt even claim to have reviewed any actual documents, only electronic copies that they most likely download from the Internet.

Like i said before the BC, which Hawaii has indicated is accurate, will remain a valid government issued document until there is actual evidence that it isnt. Supposition and conjecture is all they have at this point.
 

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I watched the first 25 mins or so, and I don't see any proof of fraud. I see a lot of conclusions based on them not able to replicate what they are seeing in electronic copies of documents, but the results are inconclusive. As far as I can see they didnt even claim to have reviewed any actual documents, only electronic copies that they most likely download from the Internet.

Like i said before the BC, which Hawaii has indicated is accurate, will remain a valid government issued document until there is actual evidence that it isnt. Supposition and conjecture is all they have at this point.
which is still more than some imaginary link to some imaginary analysis done by GE...where's the link thatguy? give us a link to what you are claiming. stop being so obstructive to your facts...where's the link?
 

dontknowwhy

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BTW...that BC from HI was torn apart within 20 min of it's release...first, by a couple of elementary school kids, & then by everybody else. want a link to that?...you link first
 

thatguy

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I watched the first 25 mins or so, and I don't see any proof of fraud. I see a lot of conclusions based on them not able to replicate what they are seeing in electronic copies of documents, but the results are inconclusive. As far as I can see they didnt even claim to have reviewed any actual documents, only electronic copies that they most likely download from the Internet.

Like i said before the BC, which Hawaii has indicated is accurate, will remain a valid government issued document until there is actual evidence that it isnt. Supposition and conjecture is all they have at this point.
which is still more than some imaginary link to some imaginary analysis done by GE...where's the link thatguy? give us a link to what you are claiming. stop being so obstructive to your facts...where's the link?
Go to GE's website, they have a nice video that has a lot more to it than that "investigation" video did. Otherwise you can go back to the old thread and read for yourself.


But again, you want to change subjects because you see that there isn't anything in that video other than the same old BS suppositions And allegations.
 

Gilligan

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Go to GE's website, they have a nice video that has a lot more to it than that "investigation" video did. Otherwise you can go back to the old thread and read for yourself.

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I watched the video*. In fact, it clearly implies several times that the purchase is purely for nebulous political reasons, pointing only to their supposition that if they buy a whopping 25,00 Volts, that will/might someday push production up enough that prices and production costs will drop. Clearly the only rationale presented in that video is a version "we think we're investing in the future". LMAO.

I read every single link in the old thread..twice. So..where is the economic trade study that GE did to support their buy decision you say you saw?

*GE to buy 25,000 electric vehicles : News & Events : Audio & Video : GE
 

Hessian

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Possible logic disconnect.

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I watched the first 25 mins or so, and I don't see any proof of fraud. I see a lot of conclusions based on them not able to replicate what they are seeing in electronic copies of documents, but the results are inconclusive. As far as I can see they didnt even claim to have reviewed any actual documents, only electronic copies that they most likely download from the Internet.

Like i said before the BC, which Hawaii has indicated is accurate, will remain a valid government issued document until there is actual evidence that it isnt. Supposition and conjecture is all they have at this point.
Q. What has the Whitehouse authorized as Legit documents?
A. Electronic versions of Live Birth/Long Form/Selective Service

Q. Have any of these ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS been seen in their actual PAPER state?
A. Not by any investigators

Q. Are the copies sufficient to prove they are authentic?
A. No,....the digital investigations have proven that all three have been created apart/altered from the originals.

Q. Are there other problems besides these?
A. Yes,...Missing Immigration & Naturalization microfilm from the National Archives...Yes,...Social Security number(s) that obama has used. Yes, despite claims of being a Law professor, we have no essays, taped lectures-nothing. Yes: No school records at all except recognition that he enrolled: that's it. Give me 1 minute on the net & we can find Bush's College grades.
Q.How could he afford to go to prestigious universities?
A. Unknown...some say he qualified as a foreign student since his step father changed his name & likely his citizenship also.

So...as an opponent of obama,...in his perspective, his associations,...his dismissive attitude...his disconnect from American values---I want this man studied, and exposed....and charged with fraud. And I want the MSM to admit they sacrificed their journalistic duty and became giddy cheerleaders for a fraud.
 

thatguy

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Hessian said:
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I watched the first 25 mins or so, and I don't see any proof of fraud. I see a lot of conclusions based on them not able to replicate what they are seeing in electronic copies of documents, but the results are inconclusive. As far as I can see they didnt even claim to have reviewed any actual documents, only electronic copies that they most likely download from the Internet.

Like i said before the BC, which Hawaii has indicated is accurate, will remain a valid government issued document until there is actual evidence that it isnt. Supposition and conjecture is all they have at this point.
Q. What has the Whitehouse authorized as Legit documents?
A. Electronic versions of Live Birth/Long Form/Selective Service

Q. Have any of these ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS been seen in their actual PAPER state?
A. Not by any investigators

Q. Are the copies sufficient to prove they are authentic?
A. No,....the digital investigations have proven that all three have been created apart/altered from the originals.

Q. Are there other problems besides these?
A. Yes,...Missing Immigration & Naturalization microfilm from the National Archives...Yes,...Social Security number(s) that obama has used. Yes, despite claims of being a Law professor, we have no essays, taped lectures-nothing. Yes: No school records at all except recognition that he enrolled: that's it. Give me 1 minute on the net & we can find Bush's College grades.
Q.How could he afford to go to prestigious universities?
A. Unknown...some say he qualified as a foreign student since his step father changed his name & likely his citizenship also.

So...as an opponent of obama,...in his perspective, his associations,...his dismissive attitude...his disconnect from American values---I want this man studied, and exposed....and charged with fraud. And I want the MSM to admit they sacrificed their journalistic duty and became giddy cheerleaders for a fraud.
The answers to your first three questions are not correct. In 2008 they made the paper version of the COLB available and it was examined. Additionally, Hawaii ceritfied that they held the original documents. The paper version of the COLB was examined and found real, go to snopes, it will take you to photos made by factcheck I believe. And joes investigation didn't prove anything about the electronic verision, they have only produced a bunch or supposition and conjecture.

Until there is actual evidence to the contrary, the Hawaii documents stand as valid.
 
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