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Gilligan

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The answers to your first three questions are not correct. In 2008 they made the paper version of the COLB available and it was examined. Additionally, Hawaii ceritfied that they held the original documents. The paper version of the COLB was examined and found real, go to snopes, it will take you to photos made by factcheck I believe. And joes investigation didn't prove anything about the electronic verision, they have only produced a bunch or supposition and conjecture.

Until there is actual evidence to the contrary, the Hawaii documents stand as valid.
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Since I've been unable to locate it and read it for myself, I'll have to ask you: Did that economic analysis GE did to support the Volt buy decision take in to account the possibility that there might never be that many Volts actually produced?:killingme
 
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The answers to your first three questions are not correct. In 2008 they made the paper version of the COLB available and it was examined. Additionally, Hawaii ceritfied that they held the original documents. The paper version of the COLB was examined and found real, go to snopes, it will take you to photos made by factcheck I believe. And joes investigation didn't prove anything about the electronic verision, they have only produced a bunch or supposition and conjecture.

Until there is actual evidence to the contrary, the Hawaii documents stand as valid.
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Snopes, although accurate in most things is not politically neutral, it has a heavy left leaning side to it.
I would consider them to be less than accurate when it comes to anything political. Take their findings with a grain of salt on this one.
 
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thatguy said:
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The answers to your first three questions are not correct. In 2008 they made the paper version of the COLB available and it was examined. Additionally, Hawaii ceritfied that they held the original documents. The paper version of the COLB was examined and found real, go to snopes, it will take you to photos made by factcheck I believe. And joes investigation didn't prove anything about the electronic verision, they have only produced a bunch or supposition and conjecture.

Until there is actual evidence to the contrary, the Hawaii documents stand as valid.
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Snopes, although accurate in most things is not politically neutral, it has a heavy left leaning side to it.
I would consider them to be less than accurate when it comes to anything political. Take their findings with a grain of salt on this one.
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I took it with a grain of salt four years ago, as I do now. But the evidence is still points to his BC, both long and short being valid. The Hawaii health department released a statement saying that the long form is accurate and valid. That is the most compelling evidence to me.

BTW, sheriff joes posse is hardly politically neutral.
 
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I took it with a grain of salt four years ago, as I do now. But the evidence is still points to his BC, both long and short being valid. The Hawaii health department released a statement saying that the long form is accurate and valid. That is the most compelling evidence to me.

BTW, sheriff joes posse is hardly politically neutral.
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To be honest I have no better clue than you do, I tend to think the other way.
here is my reason.
It took 2 years for any "proof" to be shown. In two years time a president would be able to have any document he wanted, created. He would be able to "convince" The Hawaii health department to say what ever he wanted them to say.
Its the time before proof was given that causes me to think there is something wrong.
Now, maybe he was not born in the U.S and that is what they are keeping away from the public,
or maybe he was born in Hawaii, but 2 years earlier than he claimed, which would have put him born in Hawaii before it became a state, and once again it would strip him of being born in the U.S

So, I think something is wrong, but I have no idea what it is. I also think he had more than enough resources and time to come up with any document he wanted.
Something that we may never know, and the only way to fix it so it never happens again is to make it a requirement to prove these things before running for office.
 
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thatguy said:
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I took it with a grain of salt four years ago, as I do now. But the evidence is still points to his BC, both long and short being valid. The Hawaii health department released a statement saying that the long form is accurate and valid. That is the most compelling evidence to me.

BTW, sheriff joes posse is hardly politically neutral.
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To be honest I have no better clue than you do, I tend to think the other way.
here is my reason.
It took 2 years for any "proof" to be shown. In two years time a president would be able to have any document he wanted, created. He would be able to "convince" The Hawaii health department to say what ever he wanted them to say.
Its the time before proof was given that causes me to think there is something wrong.
Now, maybe he was not born in the U.S and that is what they are keeping away from the public,
or maybe he was born in Hawaii, but 2 years earlier than he claimed, which would have put him born in Hawaii before it became a state, and once again it would strip him of being born in the U.S

So, I think something is wrong, but I have no idea what it is. I also think he had more than enough resources and time to come up with any document he wanted.
Something that we may never know, and the only way to fix it so it never happens again is to make it a requirement to prove these things before running for office.
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The only problem with that reasoning is that he showed the proof back in 2008 and the Hawaii Health department officials said it was valid back then.

Like I said numerous times before, some people will never be convinced.
 
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Since I'm really more of a 'transcripter' than a 'birther', I'm looking forward to seeing what Breitbart.com is going to release soon.:yahoo:

It must be really damning since it was enough to get Breitbart knocked off by one of King Barack's covert hit squads.

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Since I'm really more of a 'transcripter' than a 'birther', I'm looking forward to seeing what Breitbart.com is going to release soon.:yahoo:

It must be really damning since it was enough to get Breitbart knocked off by one of King Barack's covert hit squads.

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The only problem with that reasoning is that he showed the proof back in 2008 and the Hawaii Health department officials said it was valid back then.

Like I said numerous times before, some people will never be convinced.
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He showed an obviously altered .jpg file on the internet in 2008.
No paper document was produced.
Hawaii said they had a record, not that the picture on the internet matched what they had on file.

It took 2 years to produce his long form, nobody has seen any of his academic or travel records.
Why do you think he's hiding his past?
 
Hank

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aps45819 said:
He showed an obviously altered .jpg file on the internet in 2008.
No paper document was produced.
Hawaii said they had a record, not that the picture on the internet matched what they had on file.

It took 2 years to produce his long form, nobody has seen any of his academic or travel records.
Why do you think he's hiding his past?
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Because he is the Boogeyman??? wooogieboogieboogiewoogie......:killingme

You people need to get a ####ing life!
 
aps45819

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Hank said:
Because he is the Boogeyman??? wooogieboogieboogiewoogie......:killingme

You people need to get a ####ing life!
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no, because he's the President of the United States.

Are you so enamored of Obama that you don't care to know anything about him? You've never wondered how he was able to attend school in Indonesia as a citizen named Barry Soetoro and then magically return as Barrack Obama?
Ever wonder how he was able to attend prestigious colleges?
How does one become editor of the Harvard Law review and never write a single article?
People said Bush was stupid because of his mediocre college grades, were obama's so bad they have to be hidden?

Do you really not care to know about the guy in charge of the country?
 
Hank

Hank

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no, because he's the President of the United States.

Are you so enamored of Obama that you don't care to know anything about him? You've never wondered how he was able to attend school in Indonesia as a citizen named Barry Soetoro and then magically return as Barrack Obama?
Ever wonder how he was able to attend prestigious colleges?
How does one become editor of the Harvard Law review and never write a single article?
People said Bush was stupid because of his mediocre college grades, were obama's so bad they have to be hidden?

Do you really not care to know about the guy in charge of the country?
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Didn't vote for him, don't care much for him, but I have better things to do then worry about his damn birth certificate... Your hero, Arpaio is a ####ing media whore! Get over it! It has been proven once and if there was any legitimate evidence it would be a bigger news story.
 
aps45819

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Didn't vote for him, don't care much for him, but I have better things to do then worry about his damn birth certificate... Your hero, Arpaio is a ####ing media whore! Get over it! It has been proven once and if there was any legitimate evidence it would be a bigger news story.
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No it wouldn't. He's been protected from any bad press since he entered politics.
 
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