Breaking "Rules" of Nutrition

MMM_donuts

New Member
What generally accepted rules of nutrition do you feel just don't apply to you like the media or textbooks says it should?


I don't eat breakfast. I never have. All through dietetics school they preached the importance of eating breakfast but I've always needed a few hours after waking up to eat or I find that I just don't feel well. I've self-experimented with what I eat, like high protein vs carbs vs types of carbs. I've found that I function significantly better without anything.
 

JeJeTe

Happiness
After the initial carb withdrawals when I attempt low or no carb, I find I just feel much better without them.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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I just said in another thread that I never believed red meat was bad for you.

And I do eat breakfast, it's just not usually until 10 or 11am. :smile:
 

getbent

Thats how them b*tch's R
What generally accepted rules of nutrition do you feel just don't apply to you like the media or textbooks says it should?


I don't eat breakfast. I never have. All through dietetics school they preached the importance of eating breakfast but I've always needed a few hours after waking up to eat or I find that I just don't feel well. I've self-experimented with what I eat, like high protein vs carbs vs types of carbs. I've found that I function significantly better without anything.

I'm not a big breakfast person either. If I have something it might be cereal or yogurt after 9 a.m. My 15 yr old doesn't eat breakfast before going to school because she says it makes her feel sick as well.
 

MMM_donuts

New Member
I just said in another thread that I never believed red meat was bad for you. And I do eat breakfast, it's just not usually until 10 or 11am. :smile:

Your post in the rib pain thread is what prompted me to post this question.

That's about the same time I usually eat. If I sleep in that late then it's my breakfast. If I get up earlier, well, it's still breakfast but not right after waking.

A couple of issues we have with nutrition education:
1. Overcomplication
2. Media misrepresentation (that's with just about everything, though)
3. Blanketing everyone with the same rules when individual physiological states vary greatly.

So I thought it might be neat to see what just doesn't work for some individuals.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
After the initial carb withdrawals when I attempt low or no carb, I find I just feel much better without them.

Yup. I just can't get past that withdrawal.

I just ate a great salad, little blue cheese, tomato, some canned salmon that wasn't half bad (it was about half good) and I was satisfied, certainly didn't need anything else and then...I just devoured a 1/2 box wheat thins for that crunch and salt and carbs.... Went from feeling fresh and alive to semi comatose... :stupid:
 

lucky_bee

RBF expert
After the initial carb withdrawals when I attempt low or no carb, I find I just feel much better without them.

:yeahthat:

My breakfast is usually a 24oz thing of coffee with several TB of SF creamer. I don't get hungry until about 1-2pm. If I am before that time, I might snack on some almonds or string cheese. Unless I work out in the morning - which is rare, I'm almost always exercising in the evening - then I have some low-carb breakfast protein balls I quickly defrost in the microwave.




I do love a good greasy breakfasts on the weekends that end up being closer to lunch time after I sleep in, so eating some eggs and bacon around 11am is usually what happens and I'm good until dinner.



Being a low-carber has also made me realize how awful all the low-calorie and low-fat stuff is a load of crap. I'm also a huge fan of red meat and eat it several times a week. I'm also only 27 so I'm not too worried about heart health, etc. just yet.



After growing up as someone who always ate at the appropriate timeframes and always had to clean my plate, i.e. overeating and overeating 3x a day...I eat the way I feel now, within moderation. Some days I eat a salad for lunch and some eggs for dinner, other days I'm hungry enough for 2 steaks at dinner :shrug:


oh and also, I don't follow the don't eat late rule. Since I don't eat breakfast and usually don't eat lunch until 2pm, and I'm not home until 6 (8 if I go to the gym), it makes no sense to force myself to eat a rushed dinner the second I walk in the door at 6pm. So dinner is usually closer to 8pm.
 

MMM_donuts

New Member
An interesting thing about low carbohydrate dieters:

Carbohydrate metabolism begins in your mouth and is a genetic factor. There's a huge variance in each individual's saliva content. If you are an individual that has a low amylase percentage of your saliva, you'll struggle with high starch foods because it dramatically impacts your blood sugar and insulin levels and it does this for a much longer time period during digestion. You likely have a much better tolerance of sugar than starch.

This means you'd struggle as a vegetarian AND if you're trying to conform to the USDA's food pyramid/ food plate. You're at a greater risk for diabetes if you follow those diets while others are actually able to see benefits from those diets.

Life just isn't fair sometimes.
 

somdfunguy

not impressed
I'm with you. I can't eat breakfast until I've been up a few hours or I feel sick. I also can't have coffee until I have eaten. If I wake up later in the morning I can eat first thing but still no coffee.
 

JeJeTe

Happiness
:yeahthat:

My breakfast is usually a 24oz thing of coffee with several TB of SF creamer. I don't get hungry until about 1-2pm. If I am before that time, I might snack on some almonds or string cheese. Unless I work out in the morning - which is rare, I'm almost always exercising in the evening - then I have some low-carb breakfast protein balls I quickly defrost in the microwave.




I do love a good greasy breakfasts on the weekends that end up being closer to lunch time after I sleep in, so eating some eggs and bacon around 11am is usually what happens and I'm good until dinner.



Being a low-carber has also made me realize how awful all the low-calorie and low-fat stuff is a load of crap. I'm also a huge fan of red meat and eat it several times a week. I'm also only 27 so I'm not too worried about heart health, etc. just yet.



After growing up as someone who always ate at the appropriate timeframes and always had to clean my plate, i.e. overeating and overeating 3x a day...I eat the way I feel now, within moderation. Some days I eat a salad for lunch and some eggs for dinner, other days I'm hungry enough for 2 steaks at dinner :shrug:


oh and also, I don't follow the don't eat late rule. Since I don't eat breakfast and usually don't eat lunch until 2pm, and I'm not home until 6 (8 if I go to the gym), it makes no sense to force myself to eat a rushed dinner the second I walk in the door at 6pm. So dinner is usually closer to 8pm.

When I was doing really well with my eating (I'm not now, I need to get better) I was doing it to where I'd only eat for 8 hours a day and it was all low carb. And I felt amazing. And I lost weight. It essentially taught you to really just eat when you were hungry not because it was 11am and time for lunch. But unlearning those habits of meal time and cleaning your plate are hard.

For me, I'm either way on or way off. There is no middle ground because it's a slippery slope.
 
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lucky_bee

RBF expert
When I was doing really well with my eating (I'm not now, I need to get better) I was doing it to wear I'd only eat for 8 hours a day and it was all low carb. And I felt amazing. And I lost weight. It essentially taught you to really just eat when you were hungry not because it was 11am and time for lunch. But unlearning those habits of meal time and cleaning your plate are hard.

For me, I'm either way on or way off. There is no middle ground because it's a slippery slope.

Completely agree. When I'm fully into LC, I feel amazing...have way more energy... it helped me focus on getting away from so many pre-packaged foods since my main source of food needs to be protein and certain vegetables. I used to always rely on those awful 100-cal snack packs and forcing myself to eat oatmeal in the morning bc dietetics told me too but I was always super hungry and feeling blahh.

When I actually follow LC hard-core, I lose weight and feel awesome. But for me it has to be a strong combo of working out and low-carbing. When I regularly work out, I have a much easier time low-carbing. It's better motivation to eat well. I've been bad with it the past couple years, but I still haven't fully gone back to my old ways of eating.
 

JeJeTe

Happiness
Completely agree. When I'm fully into LC, I feel amazing...have way more energy... it helped me focus on getting away from so many pre-packaged foods since my main source of food needs to be protein and certain vegetables. I used to always rely on those awful 100-cal snack packs and forcing myself to eat oatmeal in the morning bc dietetics told me too but I was always super hungry and feeling blahh.

When I actually follow LC hard-core, I lose weight and feel awesome. But for me it has to be a strong combo of working out and low-carbing. When I regularly work out, I have a much easier time low-carbing. It's better motivation to eat well. I've been bad with it the past couple years, but I still haven't fully gone back to my old ways of eating.

Bingo. When I run, I make much better eating choices. I need to get back on that train.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
What generally accepted rules of nutrition do you feel just don't apply to you like the media or textbooks says it should?


I don't eat breakfast. I never have. All through dietetics school they preached the importance of eating breakfast but I've always needed a few hours after waking up to eat or I find that I just don't feel well. I've self-experimented with what I eat, like high protein vs carbs vs types of carbs. I've found that I function significantly better without anything.



Interestingly the "must eat breakfast" or eat every 2-3 hours school of thought isn't supported fully in research. Interestingly somthing called intermittant fasting or IF has a lot of research support behind it and it iis way more in line with a later breakfast vs eat within an hour of waking up. I cant do it. I feel awful and WAY hungrier during the day if i eat beakfast. Looking at the way your body uses hormones and insulin IF actually makes a lot more sense than eating every 2 hours. ive read a few articles that explore your bodys insulin usuage in conjunction with circadian rythems nad it is pretty neat..leater breakfast makes much more sense.
 
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