Broken speed camera..

[garyt27]

So this morning around 6:30 am or so, I'm out around Rockville Pike (355) and Cedar Rd. I turn onto Cedar and about 100 yards there is a speed cam because of school zone opposite traffic was setting it off so I nat. check my speed. 30mph. and thats the posted limit 25 when sign is flashing. (not) I go thru and it flashes off.
I am rightly ticked off.
Is there a way to check to see if there was a malfunction at this cam.?

 

[RPMDAD]

Sad to say this gary, but i think you are screwed, glued and tattoed on this one. Maybe glhs837 will weigh in on this one, i think i have read they are set up to be just about impossible to fight. I agree with the thought these cams have a lot more to do with generating revenue than they do with public safety. IMHO the camera should definitely not go off for 5mph over anywhere.

 

[garyt27]

After some research, I find a number to call.
A hispanic women is answering the phones and after asking her to speak a little more clearly, she tells me that the morning is when they do test shots.

Huh?

 

[afjess1989]

After some research, I find a number to call.
A hispanic women is answering the phones and after asking her to speak a little more clearly, she tells me that the morning is when they do test shots.

Huh?

no no no. You heard wrong. she said "your a moron to fight these shots." lmao lol jk jk

 

[glhs837]

Right here?

rockville pike and cedar road - Google Maps

City of Rockville camera. ACS, while it has been linked to shady techniques in creating astroturf websites and organizations supporting cameras and intense lobbying, hasnt been linked to inaccurate systems that I am aware of. Also, on the downside, Rockville was a defendant in the recent class action suit about per ticket payment contracts, which are prohibited by MD law. Which suit was tossed, not because the plaintiffs were wrong, but because the court said this wasn't a case that could be brought by a class action. So unless you have far deeper pockets than most, taking on such a case is not really a viable course.

Sorry, wish I had more.

 

[garyt27]

Right here?

rockville pike and cedar road - Google Maps

City of Rockville camera. ACS, while it has been linked to shady techniques in creating astroturf websites and organizations supporting cameras and intense lobbying, hasnt been linked to inaccurate systems that I am aware of. Also, on the downside, Rockville was a defendant in the recent class action suit about per ticket payment contracts, which are prohibited by MD law. Which suit was tossed, not because the plaintiffs were wrong, but because the court said this wasn't a case that could be brought by a class action. So unless you have far deeper pockets than most, taking on such a case is not really a viable course.

Sorry, wish I had more.

yep, thats the spot, just a little farter ahead theres a 30mph sign. Then the cams go off.

 

[garyt27]

But I believe this is Bethesda.

 

[GWguy]

It's entirely possible that the camera system didn't care what time it was and didn't adjust it's trigger speed based on time. It flagged 25mph regardless of time or flashing lights.

 

[glhs837]

It's entirely possible that the camera system didn't care what time it was and didn't adjust it's trigger speed based on time. It flagged 25mph regardless of time or flashing lights.

In which case, and you had proof of your speed, like say a dash cam with a GPS speed readout, you might have a case. If the lights were not flashing, and you were under 42, you might win. Might I say. Law clearly says no violations may be issued for less than 12mph over.

But of course, few people run dashcams or dashcam apps like DailyRoads Voyager. If we deploy cams here, I will run it full time, just as protection against rouge cameras.

 

[garyt27]

Yeah, I was doing 30mph

 

[glhs837]

But without some indisputable way to prove that, you are still toast. In court, at best, you get to face the officer who signed the citation. Who will testify that he looked at the citation, and verified your tag number. If you question the accuracy of the camera, they will provide calibration logs, which of course you have no way to challenge without a lawyer and some costly discovery process.

Unless of course, you face a judge like the one who said flat out, in court, that there is no defense, guilty no matter what, unless you have another driver willing to stand as the one driving your car. Otherwise, shut up and pay up.

 

[garyt27]

what if 20-30 people show up with the same complaint?
Also I wonder if the the cam will flash off when shot with 12ga. 00 buckshot?
Just for peace of mind.

 

[corollinout]

When testing the flashes will go off. We have a tech and officer visit each speed site daily for testing. ACS might do theirs remotely.

 

[glhs837]

what if 20-30 people show up with the same complaint?
Also I wonder if the the cam will flash off when shot with 12ga. 00 buckshot?
Just for peace of mind.

Chances of that mattering are slim-none. All speeders are liars, and everybody speeds. And you cant group up into a class action suit. Pretty effective tactic, actually, restricts the opposition into onsies and twosies. Almost as effective as the newest tactic to shut down citizen initiatives to shut down automated enforcement. This trend (23 out of 24 times, it had lost, til this last year). Now, the company will find a local shill, twice simply neighbors of company reps, to sue against the allowance of the initiatives. The argument is that the citizends may not use initiatives to affect public safety items.

Making it out to be akin to the citizens trying to abolish the police department. Has worked twice so far that I am aware of.

 

[Mabus]

Nothing a can of spray paint can't fix.

 

[corollinout]

Spray paint isn't permanent lol